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Are you trying to tell me, in this the year of our lord 2026, somebody has been (rightfully or wrongfully) arrested for literally ‘crying wolf’? There’s someth
by _fw 5mo ago
Are you trying to tell me, in this the year of our lord 2026, somebody has been (rightfully or wrongfully) arrested for literally ‘crying wolf’?
There’s something hilariously poetic about a ~2,500 year old fable being relevant today, because of AI.
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- lukan 5mo agoNo, not really. There was a real wolf and the person dusturbed the operation. "South Korean police have arrested a man for sharing an AI-generated image that misled authorities who were searching for a wolf that had broken out of a zoo in Daejeon city. The 40-year-old unnamed man is accused of disrupting the search by creating and distributing a fake photo purporting to show Neukgu, the wolf, trotting down a road intersection"
- sillysaurusx 5mo agoBut there are real wolves when shepherding too. That’s why crying wolf has any power. To cry wolf is to say there’s a wolf here when it’s actually located elsewhere. The AI photo said there was a wolf at a certain intersection when it was actually located elsewhere. In fact crying wolf is doubly appropriate because it means disturbing an operation looking for a wolf.
- croes 5mo agoCrying wolf is normally starting the operation while there isn‘t a wolf. This is misdirection while there is a wolf Similar but different
- weird-eye-issue 5mo agoThat's completely pedantic and besides it's false because there literally wasn't a wolf there where he faked the photo in the first place
- croes 5mo agoCrying wolf is crying for help when there is no danger not when there is a danger just at different place. That's not pedantic, that's the meaning of the idiom.
- weird-eye-issue 5mo agoThis is real life there's always a danger just at a different place.
- fc417fc802 5mo agoIf you stipulate that everyone must be relaxing at the time, sure. But the core concept of crying wolf is IMO simply a false alert with no particular constraints placed on those responding. I think in this case it simultaneously qualifies as crying wolf as well as misdirection.
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- croes 5mo agoBut this isn't a false alert. The alert is real, people just got misdirected.
- weird-eye-issue 5mo agoIt was a false alert in that particular place. I doubt those residents who were alerted had felt like they were previously in immediate danger.
- tokai 5mo agoYou don't get to chose pedanticism when it suits you. Please stop.
- debo_ 5mo agoNot pedanticism. Pedantry. /joke
- heliumtera 5mo agole reddit mentality
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- psychoslave 5mo agoThe biggest difference now is wolf is actually sought to protect him¹ from the crowd of the super-predators in town, so they can "give him a calm environment for recovery". ¹ Following pronoun variant used in the fine article here.
- PUSH_AX 5mo ago> the person dusturbed the operation Did they? The article says it's unclear as to their intent. > Authorities did not specify if the man had intentionally sent the photo to authorities during their search or simply shared it online.
- lukan 5mo agoIntent or not, it did disturb as it misslead. And .. how can one imagine not disturb a search, when posting a wrong location?
- stronglikedan 5mo agoIntent or not, disturbing the search or not, it's silly that the authorities would arrest a civilian because of their own incompetence.
- computerfriend 5mo agoCivilians get arrested for incompetence all the time.
- baranul 5mo agoThat's the true core of the story. Was the man truly trying to mislead authorities or is it more about authorities using the man as a scapegoat to hide their incompetence.
- lukan 5mo agoThey were searching for a wolf. (Not really a standard task) They don't have total surveillance, so also rely on public information - a citicien posts information about the location of the wolf, a picture! - authorities adopt their search based on that picture Where is the incompetence here?
- yongjik 5mo agoI swear, some commenters here think "the government is incompetent" is an axiom and work backward from there to fill in the details.
- pj_mukh 5mo agoIf this was America there would be 20 think pieces in the Atlantic about how AI is ruining our culture and no one would get arrested.
- moron4hire 5mo agoThere was a real wolf in "The Boy Who Cried Wolf", too.
- shlant 5mo agowhat an incredibly dumb thread this is. OP pointed out something amusing and it's being ruined by completely useless pedantry
- fennecbutt 5mo agoWelcome to HN, I guess
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- sunaurus 5mo agoI'm honestly not convinced that it isn't just LLMs going in circles with each other
- colechristensen 5mo agoSerious suggestion: we flag responses or have a separate flag for comments which are unnecessarily pedantic / the commenter is functionally illiterate / the commenter didn't read (the three things are somewhat indistinguishable).
- arjie 5mo agoI find that building a personal blocklist extension for myself lets me treat such threads as fertile grounds. I no longer get annoyed because I am pleased that I can quickly remove a lot of low quality commenters at once. Recommend writing one for yourself (trivial with LLM). Original comment was clever and subsequent commenters were uninteresting to me. In this case, I only saw it because I’m on my phone which doesn’t have Chrome extensions. Turns out I’d already blocked them.
- lukan 5mo agoWell, I was a bit missled by the original comment, then I read the article, found the case to be a bit different than the tale and posted context. But giving the pedantry nature of HN, I should have probably been more clear in my wording to avoid the debate about meaning of words. Because yes, there is a resemblance to the fable, just not literally the same.
- colechristensen 5mo agoPerhaps you forgot the fable which... features a real wolf.
- Razengan 5mo ago> somebody has been (rightfully or wrongfully) arrested for literally ‘crying wolf’? Willfully diverting limited public service resources, that might potentially be assigned to saving someone's life or health? Practically a social DoS
- littlestymaar 5mo agoYeah, I really don't see the difference with false bomb alerts.
- colechristensen 5mo ago>Willfully diverting limited public service resources, that might potentially be assigned to saving someone's life or health? This is an accurate criticism of the boy in the fable, if... an unnecessary way to express the idea.
- hansmayer 5mo agoThe fable was always relevant, afaic it is still a part of the curriculums. It's also a nice illustration of how LLMs screw up everything they touch - and please don't serve me the old "guns don't kill people - people kill people" argument over this.
- grosswait 5mo agoIs there a reason you felt the need to slip this non sequitur in your reply?
- unsupp0rted 5mo ago> It's also a nice illustration of how LLMs screw up everything they touch And you'll be shocked what the kids have been doing with databases and API calls
- hansmayer 5mo ago???
- GuB-42 5mo agoGuns primary purpose is to kill. The primary purpose of genAI (image generation goes beyond the scope of LLMs) is not to mislead, they are used successfully by millions of people for purposes that are in no way nefarious. It includes valuable contributions to fields like medicine. Like most important advances like plastics, nuclear power, diesel engines, synthetic fertilizers, computers and the internet, good and bad things came out of it. It is like saying that plastics screw up everything they touch, for example when a plastic part is used to replace a more durable metal part, but before realizing that plastics are everywhere in our lives, often without a suitable replacement material.
- baobabKoodaa 5mo ago"The boy who generated wolf"
- red-iron-pine 5mo agothe 40-year-old unnamed man who generated wolf
- TwoNineFive 5mo agoThe world can't be that advanced when you have people shoving their religious imaginary friends in every sentence and then feigning victimhood for having it called out.