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I am convinced Mark Zuckerberg does more harm than good for Facebook like literally they lucked out on the landing the business model early but it feels it has
by akdev1l 5mo ago
I am convinced Mark Zuckerberg does more harm than good for Facebook
like literally they lucked out on the landing the business model early but it feels it has been in an ongoing decline and everything else they have tried has failed spectacularly (and particularly things Mark has put his whole weight behind)
They never became anything more than the ad company
- flir 5mo agoThe transition to mobile-first was a good call. Probably the last good call though. Oh, and buying Instagram.
- lotsofpulp 5mo agoAnd whatsapp.
- stingraycharles 5mo agoAnd WhatsApp. And the VR glasses seem to be a success.
- Spooky23 5mo agoI think it’s hard to not have any kind of boss. There’s nobody to provide the critique needed to improve the products.
- dpc050505 5mo agoEveryone has clients and if your employees aren't incompetent sycophants they can give you actionable feedback.
- SturgeonsLaw 5mo agoNot a commentary on Zuck specifically, but many powerful people with fragile egos build an inner circle of incompetent sycophants
- wjeje 5mo agoI mean he’s got boz in his circle - is that short for bozo?
- OccamsMirror 5mo agoMy favorite story from "Careless People," was when his team let him cheat and ultimately win at Settlers of Catan.
- OccamsMirror 5mo agoMy favorite story from "Careless People," was when his team let him cheat and ultimately win at Settlers of Catan.
- Danox 5mo agoVery true the White House currently is an example of that.
- matwood 5mo ago> to improve the products. Meta had ~100B in EBITDA (or 60B in net income) for 2025. What critique does he need from a product/business standpoint?
- rao-v 5mo agoAlright, apart from Instagram, WhatsApp, Llama 1 & 2 and somehow managing to sell nearly 10M less nerdy google glasses what has Zuck done for FB?
- qwertybrah 5mo agoOne step further. Besides Facebook itself whqt has zuck been visionary about ? Instw and WhatsApp was bought. He thought chatbots was the thing in ‘17, then abandoned it for VR and metaverse, all the while chatbots start taking off. Every time he’s in an interview he talks like he’s some savant, really he got lucky with fb and done nothing since
- wjeje 5mo agoLet’s go another step further! The continual success of fb and instagram has not come from zuck but through glorified A/B testing on steroids whilst lighting employee’s asses on fire each quarter to move the metrics. Visionary genius? My ass. Only Steve Jobs proved he is worthy of that title. Bro is a fraud. He always was - remember he stole the idea for fb. Thankfully he’s getting found out.
- hyperhello 5mo agoDid he really steal the idea? I thought the idea was just a message board for Harvard students. That isn’t novel.
- razakel 5mo agoThe original idea was this: >I almost want to put some of these faces next to pictures of farm animals and have people vote on which is more attractive.
- wjeje 5mo agoIf he didn’t steal anything why did winklevoss and another person at Harvard involved in the original project get a pay off…? Do we really need to discuss this? He tried to screw another founder - the Brazilian - who got a pay off and now has a reported net worth in the billions.
- adi_kurian 5mo agoBesides selling democracy for pennies on the dollar, Zuckerberg knew what to buy before everyone else knew what it was worth. In 2012, everyone around me was lauging at the absurdity of a 0 revenue photo app getting acquired for $1bn. My peers/superiors in the ad business thought Facebook would flail in digital marketing. Oops. The metaverse might be a big pile of bollocks, but isn't the whole point of being a billionaire to indulge peculiar unpopular obsessions?
- wjeje 5mo agoNo he bought everything out of paranoia to shut out competition. They tried organically to replicate instagram etc but they failed even though they had wayyyy more resources. Their attempts sucked. So their approach was to target for acquisition or copy features if they couldn’t. There’s plenty of evidence of this re. His comms around those events.
- breppp 5mo agoOnly someone who had so much luck in finding a product that clicks, would know the worth of buying such a product
- alex1138 5mo agoZuckerberg copied Snapchat like... 5 times at least? It should have signified to EVERYBODY he has sociopath-like behavior (in fact apparently on the Zuckerberg-owned Instagram, Snapchat content got demoted, or something) and how he is absolutely the same person that was willing to fuck the Winklevosses ("in the ear") But I suppose that doesn't count because Winklevii "never would have come up with anything anyway" Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21114106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21114106
- cindyllm 5mo ago[dead]
- alper 5mo agoThe only good things at Meta are the things they bought (Whatsapp and Instagram). They haven't made anything original in a long long time.