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Salmon exposed to cocaine and its main byproduct roam more widely
- zhouzhao 6mo agoIf that is not one good argument to start producing cocaine locally, then I don't know! Save the fish.
- HPsquared 6mo agoRoaming more widely may not be healthy for the salmon.
- finghin 6mo agoI think another study is in order examining how cocaine affects breeding habits.
- parodysbird 6mo agoWhether it is or is not, is not a function of the cocaine though, but rather idiosyncrasies of the wider ecologies the salmon are in. If roaming more widely introduces them to more productive food opportunities (or, lower predation) than their closer ecology, then it would be beneficial for them. If it does not, then it wouldn't be. Neither context is determined in the basic finding that cocaine causes them to roam more widely.
- HPsquared 6mo agoEven in the case it were to benefit the salmon, that could still cause secondary problems: something like how nutrient pollution causes some species to run rampant.
- grebc 6mo agoThey’re in a better mood though.
- tirant 6mo agoJust before becoming suicidal some hours later.
- MisterTea 6mo agoTotally. They may wander up bad river, strung out looking for another hit - SNAP! Killed by a bear. My fellow Salmon, please talk to your roe about the dangers of drugs.
- kvgr 6mo agoWhat about the rats and turtles in sewers? They might become more agresive!
- lynx97 6mo agoThere is trash 80s "horror" movie waiting to be made.
- MisterTea 6mo agoSomeone stole that idea and went back in time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles
- zhouzhao 6mo agoGotta give them something to improve their perception of their living conditions!
- somenameforme 6mo agoCould this not have been simply an instinct to find cleaner waters? I'm surprised they didn't add another control group which injected something unpleasant that could be naturally found in an area, but would be undesirable - ammonia, some sort of acid, or something along those lines.
- anthonj 6mo agoThe title ie a bit misleading: The study want to prove that cocaine is yet another polluter thar alters the fish behaviour even in the small quantities that can be found in the wild in polluted areas. Not that something is special or different about cocaine pollution. So the control group in this case are fishes with an implant with no drug at all. https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(26)00315-5 https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(26)...
- kees99 6mo agoAgree with your point overall, but ammonia in particular is a poor example. Fish lack urea cycle, so they produce and excrete significant amounts of ammonia as part of normal metabolism.
- gus_massa 6mo agoAt very low doses, for example chewing the leaves of coke instead of using the high purified version, it's somewhat like drinking a coffee [1]. I expect the fish to be more active. A coffee patch would be a nice 4th group as another control. [1] Chewing the leaves of coke is common in many countries of South America, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acullico https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acullico
- pixelpoet 6mo agoShine on you crazy salmon
- wartywhoa23 6mo agoHahaha, no, wrong substance :) Salmons get crazy and shine after prolonged walks with Lucy in the sky and some diamonds; The salmons in question just hanged out with White Stripes.
- pixelpoet 6mo agoI mainly couldn't stop myself writing that sequence of words after I'd started :)
- throwa356262 6mo agoAnd just like that, smoked Salmon became popular again :) BTW, did you knew municipalities can easily measure fluctuations in drug usage by testing the sewage water? In fact, sometimes they can see clear differences between different parts of the city.
- hmokiguess 6mo agoIs data like that sold anywhere? I wonder if there’s an analytics market for profiling neighborhoods based on sewage water content now. If my browser history wasn’t already rock bottom, that’s a new low for the ad market
- tacker2000 6mo agoThe European Wastewater Surveillance Dashboard: https://wastewater-observatory.jrc.ec.europa.eu/#/content/the-eu-dashboard https://wastewater-observatory.jrc.ec.europa.eu/#/content/th... Also, Wastewater analysis and drugs — a European multi-city study: https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/pods/waste-water-analysis_en https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/pods/waste-water-ana...
- bjourne 6mo agoFun fact: if you sign up for many online casinos or betting sites they will indeed use Google Streetview to lookup your house to estimate how much money they might extract from you.
- hmokiguess 6mo agothat's wild, do you have a source? curious to know more
- bjourne 6mo agoA friend working in the business told me. I don't think it's a strategy the casinos would publicly disclose.
- throwpoaster 6mo agoWe’re looking at you, Vancouver.
- api 6mo agoCocaine bear, cocaine shark, cocaine… salmon?
- mayhemducks 6mo ago(lowers mirrored glasses).... mother of god
- MisterTea 6mo agoCocaine Salmon is the prequel to Cocaine Bear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon#/media/File:Cub_with_trophy.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon#/media/File:Cub_with_tr...
- RajT88 6mo agoIn the southwest there are also meth trout.
- DonHopkins 6mo agoCrack Rock Lobster! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg
- shrubble 6mo agoI learned recently about “Vin Mariani” a wine from the 1860s that was fortified with coca leaves and contained 6mg per liquid ounce of the wine; except for the bottles sold in USA where it was 7.2mg per ounce, because there were other patent medicines that had cocaine in them and the manufacturer added a bit more to be competitive in the market. The Pope of the time loved the stuff and awarded the company a Vatican medal for it.
- sekh60 6mo agoWhile I love the Internet and all sorts of modern life fixtures (in a developed country), I feel a bit like I missed out by not being alive when all the crazy drinks were around.
- chuckadams 6mo agoProbably best to have missed out on radium water.
- alcasa 6mo agoYou can still get your Radium Spa treatment in the Czech Republic: https://www.axxoshotels.com/radium-palace-spa https://www.axxoshotels.com/radium-palace-spa
- Gud 6mo agoCocaine is still readily available. Pour yourself a nice glass of wine with some coke on the side?
- lotsofpulp 6mo agoUnadulterated cocaine is not readily available to 99% of people. Who wants to risk getting some fentanyl or whatever else as a layperson wanting to try it?
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- windowliker 6mo agoNext up: smackhead whales, dolphins on crack, and manatees hitting the bong.
- throwaway2037 6mo agoI wonder about the root cause. Can it be explained as: (1) Stimulant helps the fish to swim more distance? (2) Inhibition is lowered so the fish is more willing to explore?
- mayhemducks 6mo agoGood news everyone! If you give a fish a stimulant, it swims more!
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- jjk166 6mo agoHow does one get a job as a "let's give cocaine to this animal and see what happens" scientist?
- llbbdd 6mo agoDepends on your threshold for credentials and desired pay range. If you've got speed, a stream, and a dream, you can coke up as many fish as you want. It's science as long as you write it down.
- jasomill 6mo agoThis roughly describes several research projects my late sister-in-law was involved in. In her case I believe she was friends with the head of a university lab who recruited her out of her PhD program.
- yangm97 6mo agoVideo interview with the Salmon in question https://youtu.be/dDj7DuHVV9E https://youtu.be/dDj7DuHVV9E
- DonHopkins 6mo ago"What the fuck is that?"
- JackFr 6mo ago1) Reading the original article as far as I understand, indicates that the dose given the fish is 1000x than is seen in the wild. 2) From a public policy standpoint, OMG, this more than useless. Cocaine is already illegal everywhere.
- torvoborvo 6mo agoDoes more or less cocaine end up in waterways because it is illegal? I would think the amount that ends up in the ocean in relation to failed trafficking may exceed the additional amount from higher usage particularly since not all wastewater is poorly treated and coastal.
- adityaathalye 6mo agoBased study. https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(26)00315-5 https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(26)... Cringe sciencedotorg coverage... TL;DR: Doped Salmon wild. Wild Salmon dopey. But a lot more fun in pictures; Spiders on Drugs, courtesy NASA. Quoted Photos: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/nasa-spiders-drugs-experiment/ https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/nasa-spiders-drugs-experime... Source: Using Spider-Web Patterns To Determine Toxicity: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19950065352 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19950065352
- stronglikedan 6mo ago> Spiders on Drugs Obligatory: https://youtu.be/sHzdsFiBbFc https://youtu.be/sHzdsFiBbFc
- chromadon 6mo agoWeird, it usually keeps me pretty close to a club toilet.
- not_a_bot_4sho 6mo agoMaybe I'm walking into a trap here but my experience with cocaine is limited to Scarface and similar movies. What does it do that keeps you in the restroom frequently?
- dsco 6mo agoBecause you can't do it in public since it's illegal, but club toilets is where people take it.
- stronglikedan 6mo agoAnd at the very least, it's where you want to be when you start taking it, since it tickles the bowels.
- 15155 6mo agoAre you sure you're not snorting laxatives?
- celticninja 6mo agoBut fuck that toilets are awful places just be discreet and no one will usually bother you. That means smell your keys don't rack lines.
- throwaway888666 6mo agoBelieve it or not, I am sitting here in botoga in a cafe and drinking coca tea...
- perrygeo 6mo agoCarter Vail was right. Cocaine was invented by salmon - I bet you didn't know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0tVk5T6zc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0tVk5T6zc
- DonHopkins 6mo ago"Cocaine makes me feel like a new salmon. And he wants some too!"
- laxmena 6mo agoI have a lot of questions after reading this article 1. How would Cocaine end up in wastewater treatment plant in the first place? 2. What is the volume of Cocaine needed, or used to observe this behavior from the fish? 3. If Cocaine pollution has already been happening in the wild, are there any recorded events that support the claim of effects on the habitat