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Hospital at centre of child HIV outbreak caught reusing syringes in Pakistan
- t1234s 6mo ago[flagged]
- OutOfHere 6mo agoIf it were China, the death penalty would be guaranteed for it.
- tempaccountabcd 6mo ago[dead]
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- corndoge 6mo ago> They are highly distrustful in particular of people offering vaccines FTA > Our investigation suggests that unsafe practices are in part driven by systemic pressures including a reliance on, and cultural preference for, injections as treatment. > Pakistan has one of the highest rates of therapeutic injections in the world, many of them medically unnecessary. Members of the general public ask for them, including for their children, and doctors happily oblige, says Mir. Stop making shit up
- mothballed 6mo ago[flagged]
- corndoge 6mo agoVax program is common knowledge, literally everyone knows about that, and it was an intelligence program not an execution campaign. Your conclusion is made up
- mothballed 6mo agoYou're arguing against a straw man then. I didn't claim the "intelligence program" was an execution campaign against anyone but Bin Laden. The conclusion that it was a trojan horse, I think quite factual. I did claim Pakistanis have executed vaccine workers ("circumspect people with needles").... because as I cited they have. In part because they have been used as CIA operations.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoGP is using "executed" instead of "lynched." This goes back to the polio vaccination campaign started in the 1990s. Bin Laden op happened in 2010-2011. Polio workers were being chased away and lynched longer that. [1] Still happening BTW [2] [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2727330/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2727330/ [2] https://www.rediff.com/news/report/polio-team-attacked-in-pakistan-constable-injured/20260415.htm https://www.rediff.com/news/report/polio-team-attacked-in-pa...
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- calmworm 6mo agoOr maybe better education?
- ceejayoz 6mo ago> When we showed Buzdar our undercover footage, he insisted it had been filmed before his tenure or that it had been staged. When asked what he would say to local parents watching this footage, he said: "I can say to them with certainty, with confidence, that you should get your treatment done at THQ Taunsa." Not gonna fix this with education if they won't admit to having a problem in the first place.
- plutomeetsyou 6mo agoor the lack of education is the cause of such denial of science.
- ceejayoz 6mo agoIf he lacked the education he wouldn’t be claiming it was fake footage.
- Gud 6mo agoIt’s not going to fix this individual, but it certainly will fix the society.
- jabedude 6mo agoAre you claiming that Pakistani nurses and doctors are not educated on the dangers of needle reuse?
- supjeff 6mo agoIf they aren't educated, throw the whole thing away and start over. if they are educated, and decided to share HIV needles with children, throw the whole thing away, but put them all in prison.
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- dwa3592 6mo agoI was in middle school when we were taught that used syringes were one of the causes of HIV. Can't believe a hospital would do this!!!
- CGMthrowaway 6mo agoThese are hospital volunteers reusing the syringes. There's no telling they even went to middle school.
- cookiengineer 6mo ago[flagged]
- Gud 6mo agoWhat do you mean, go wrong? God willed it.
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- chimineycricket 6mo agoWomen are allowed full education in Pakistan.
- cookiengineer 6mo ago> Women are allowed full education in Pakistan. Malala Yousafzai might disagree with that statement. You know, because she was shot in the head for advocating education for girls/women. Just sayin'
- ffsm8 6mo agoLet's not get reality get in the way of their headfiction of how great Muslim rule is
- satya71 6mo agoThis is common practice in much of developed world. Long ago, they used to have re-usable glass syringes that could be sterilized. Unfortunately, people switched to disposable syringes. The unit costs are...high in the US, unreasonable in developing countries. It's not just this hospital, it's widespread ([1] report 38%) [1] https://www.emro.who.int/emhj-volume-26-2020/volume-26-issue-3/reuse-of-syringes-for-therapeutic-injections-in-pakistan-rethinking-determinants.html https://www.emro.who.int/emhj-volume-26-2020/volume-26-issue...
- _bypa 6mo agoDo you know why they couldn't switch back to glass syringes?
- faangguyindia 6mo agoIf you forget to autoclave them or not done properly you end up with infected patients, risk is just too much
- NDlurker 6mo agoPrions aren't destroyed by autoclave
- Loughla 6mo agoNo but viruses and bacteria are. What's your point and how common is transmitting prions?
- NDlurker 6mo agoMy point is disposable is superior
- Marsymars 6mo agoThey can "survive" autoclave cycles that render other pathogens dead/inactive, but there do exist autoclave cycles that seem to pretty reliably inactivate prions.
- temptemptemp111 6mo ago[dead]
- halperter 6mo agohttps://archive.is/a9p1X https://archive.is/a9p1X Does anyone have alternative archival sites? I want to switch away from archive.today because of the uncivil behavior [1] but can't find any other archival sites that can unpaywall websites. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-might-blacklist-archive-today-after-site-maintainer-ddosed-a-blog/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-might-...
- jjmarr 6mo agoDoes the BBC even have a paywall that needs to be bypassed so people can pirate news?
- LeoPanthera 6mo agoCurrently only in the USA. You can read a few articles for free, then there is a $9/month or $50/year subscription. It includes the website, the live streaming BBC News TV channel, and a library of documentaries.
- ceejayoz 6mo agoI've been getting one intermittently in recent weeks on the BBC site from the US.
- LeoPanthera 6mo agoHave you considered paying your way through the wall? If you're not willing to do that, it's "uncivil" to pirate their content, wouldn't you say?
- aussieguy1234 6mo agoOne way to think of infection control best practice with needles like this. The cost of a new needle, syringe or new gloves is quite cheap. The cost of an infection is high. The cost of a HIV infection is life altering. So, its clear that whoever did this thought that whatever small savings they obtained from not using a fresh syringe was more important to them than the high likelihood their patients would get infections, including HIV.
- seb1204 6mo agoYour cost claims need to be considered with the perspective of the country or location of the clinic.
- hsbauauvhabzb 6mo agoAnd from the perspective of who pays the cost.
- aussieguy1234 6mo agoWherever you are, the cost of the said items is always much cheaper than the infection
- kelnos 6mo agoUnfortunately, the person making the decision to save money on syringes isn't the one who has to bear the cost when something goes wrong.
- tempaccountabcd 6mo ago[dead]
- jaypatelani 6mo agoUS should rather sanction Pakistan than getting IMF loan to it.
- mlmonkey 6mo agoAnd what will Pakistan do with such an IMF loan? The Generals would siphon off most of it to buy their palatial Dubai houses and London condos. Until Pakistan cleans up its act, giving it more loans it throwing good money after bad.
- ETH_start 6mo agoThe parent comment is suggesting sanctioning them, not giving them IMF loans.
- Dusseldorf 6mo agoIt took me 5 rereads before I properly read "should" instead of "would", which totally flips the implication!
- themafia 6mo ago> The Generals would siphon off most of it to buy their palatial Dubai houses and London condos. Next door to other world leaders doing the same? Is that truly our motivation for not transferring the money? Some generals might illicitly buy houses? > Until Pakistan cleans up its act I'm sure "The Generals" are going to help there. > giving it more loans it throwing good money after bad. Abandoning them entirely as hostages is not acceptable.
- KetoManx64 6mo agoIf you find it unacceptable why don't you go fly over there and do volunteet work and donate your money to fund schools and education?
- themafia 6mo ago
- calvinmorrison 6mo agoexpect nothing less from a country that has the largest slave population in the world.
- geor9e 6mo agoThere's obviously terrible procedures happening at this clinic, involving contamination, but that one video doesn't seem like the culprit. Notice he removes the needle, then injects medicine into a cannula tube, not flesh. He then re-attaches the needle, draws the second dose, and injects again. That was the problem. The narrator says he then used a brand new syringe for every child, but that initial procedure contaminated the vial. Cannula tubes are primed with saline, that's kind of a long gap for blood to travel to contaminate the vial. Yes he did it wrong, but I get why he thought it would be ok.
- foragerdev 6mo agoAll the Americans/Westerns telling Pakistan is a poor country, it's your governments which are responsible. For the context, US/EU has been sponsoring military governments by toppling Democratically elected governments because some democratically elected Politian's are not as submissive as a corrupt Army general. Latest case, in which an elected Prime Minister Imran Khan was removed from the office due to US sponsored regime change operations by Pakistan Army. Trumps current favorite Field Marshal Asim Munir as he is serving US as Imran Khan could not (US demanded air bases after it exited US from Afghanistan, which was denied by the elected PM and soon after he was ousted). And later, US kept silence over the election delayed in 2023, And then election was stolen in 2024, and everyone knows that Pakistan Army did still US/EU kept silence. Here people talking about poverty and low income about Pakistan. Since US/EU sponsored government directly ruled by Army and Trumps favorite field marshal Pakistan has not progressed even 1% since then. People income fallen more than 50% more than 60% people is living below poverty. All because of the hypocrisy of US/EU governments. If you guys care so much about people, at least force your governments to not support such regimes. That would be enough for the people of the country. Instead of telling them that they are poor or xyz. What I described is just a recent history, we go deeper in the history, history is full of such incidents. And I further do not take it as if I am putting total blame on foreign powers, Pakistanis are to be blame as well. But foreign powers sponsor such regimes all the over the world to have control on certain regions.