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I just want to note how fast this page is. 806kB transferred. 766ms to finished. I hit the DFW AWS CloudFront pop from here. Similar page for BK https://www
by tbeseda 6mo ago
I just want to note how fast this page is.
806kB transferred. 766ms to finished.
I hit the DFW AWS CloudFront pop from here.
Similar page for BK https://www.burgerking.co.jp/menu https://www.burgerking.co.jp/menu
31MB transferred. 6.5s to finished.
Hits the DEN pop (but it's a "miss").
I am in Colorado. uBlock is on.
Even if you don't count the 7.5MB of fonts on the BK page, that's wild.
- wombat-man 6mo agothey gotta make sure you learn about those burgers as fast as possible.
- mr_toad 6mo agoIt’s worrying, or perhaps just sad, that 766ms for an initial page load is considered especially noteworthy. Six thousand milliseconds is just awful.
- gl-prod 6mo agoBut it feels snappy.
- danielheath 6mo agoIt feels snappy _compared with most sites_. That's the point! It feels _very_ sluggish if I try it after spending some time using a windows 98 VM, or a library catalog from 1990.
- jauco 6mo agoNot if you were browsing the internet of that time using a 28k8 modem.
- gerdesj 6mo agoWhen I was a lad, 30ms was considered the worst latency allowable for telephony unless you were dealing with satellite links, in which case you taught people to use a simple variety of radio protocol (over). Nowadays with all our fancy crappy comms, 200+ms is considered normal. Ever noticed the lag on a Teams call?
- rasz 6mo agoOP is not talking ping but page load time. Depending on when you were a lad pages could take up to 30-60 second to load on a modem.
- bcrl 6mo agoMcDonalds actually seems to have learned to take latency seriously. When their touch screen ordering systems were first deployed, the delay between tapping on an item or button was quite noticeable. These days the systems respond nearly instantaneously. I'm very glad there are people inside such a large organization that pay attention to that aspect of usability. Now if only every other website on the internet would learn that latency matters...
- rapind 6mo agoExcept they make you tap 2-3 times more than it takes to make your selections. That's business guys though, not the devs. Do you want to add one of [x]?... No. How about now, add one of [x]?... No. Do you want to round up your total to [n]?... No. Do you want to eat in, even though we'll still put it in a takeaway bag so this option is really just the equivalent of a close door button on an elevator in that it does nothing except placate you?... Yes.
- sowbug 6mo agoI'm sure these two behaviors depend on each other. Instantaneous response allows the company to spend more of your attention answering questions rather than staring at a spinner. If you've ever watched TV with someone who gets distracted and sets down the remote after each button press while Netflix's UI slowly loads, you know that three or four UI interactions can turn into a several-minute ordeal.
- b112 6mo agoI have been in elevators in which it does do something. I've timed the difference. This foul rumour must die.
- DrewADesign 6mo agoThey effectively don’t do anything in most elevators in the US during normal operation. The ADA requires elevator doors remain open at least 3-seconds. Usually, people-moving elevators are most efficient when doors close as quickly as possible, so they start closing exactly at 3 seconds. I’ve used elevators with less common use cases — huge ones in hospitals, freight elevators, hotel service elevators — that might be configured to stay open longer than the 3 second minimum, assuming people will push the door close button as soon as they’re ready.
- layer8 6mo agoIt's fast food, what do you expect. ;)
- sickcodebruh 6mo agoCrazy fast but the the way all header text sizes change briefly flash between values every time you switch tabs would drive me nuts if I was responsible for this.
- puppymaster 6mo ago+1. not just that front page, click on any of the menu. Good prefetch and ttfb optimization there
- IAmGraydon 6mo agoHungry people are impatient. Some have learned this and how to gain another small edge with it.
- userbinator 6mo agoBK's page is also completely unusable without JS. It's an "appsite", not a website. McD's is readable with JS off, because the "meat" of the content is plain HTML. I also like how the other links here are to URLs of the form "/en/products/nnnn", which further reinforces the fact that the pages are server-side.
- alt227 6mo agoI would imagine it is intended so it loads quickly on mobile devices using slow data connections in crowded areas. I have noticed web pages taking a lot longer to load when I am in a city centre on a data connection. Its pretty cool and may even give a competitive edge if you can still be snappy in that situation when your competitiors arent.
- lucaspottersky 6mo agoadditionally, BK shows this terrible modal banner to "use our app instead". gross.