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I think much more likely is that it will just be made legal federally sometime in the next decade. Marijuana legalization has majorities across ideologies (http
by tdb7893 6mo ago
I think much more likely is that it will just be made legal federally sometime in the next decade. Marijuana legalization has majorities across ideologies (https://news.gallup.com/poll/514007/grassroots-support-legalizing-marijuana-hits-record.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/514007/grassroots-support-legal...) and even though the inability to create federal law on something so popular seems like a good case study on how the US system doesn't always do a good job representing it's actual people, it seems to be at a critical mass where it can't be ignored for much longer. Even my parents' friends who are conservative have started doing weed.
- dmitrygr 6mo agoYou’re probably right, though I dread the possibility. I cannot stand the smell, and one of the best things about moving from California to Texas was avoiding that pervasive smell being everywhere. Negative externalities of personal behavior really need to be handled better in our society. If you want pot to be legal, fine, but only inside your own personal enclosed house.
- barbazoo 6mo agoThat's only one of many ways to consume it, many people vape, have edibles or drinks and you just don't notice.
- embedding-shape 6mo agoEven as a daily weed smoker myself though, it's hard not to acknowledge that a more liberal marijuana stance in a geographic location does lead to that smell being more commonly encountered when in public and out and about. Personally I don't mind, almost the opposite, but for people who don't like the smell, obviously they feel differently. Good thing we can have different policies in different places, and people can generally, one way or another, move themselves to other places. Could be easier, but could also be way worse.
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo ago[flagged]
- embedding-shape 6mo agoMeanwhile, I smoke weed in my office, but I have a air purifier (rated for double the air flow capacity of the room) and not even my wife who works in the room next door can smell anything, and she actively despises the smell. Sometimes you just need to find the right equipment :)
- asadotzler 6mo agoSee also, cigarettes, cigars, and pipe smoking. I find those smells about 10x as offensive as smoked weed. I don't see the HN crowd coming out against tobacco despite these two being roughly equivalent in use. And that 20 ft from the door thing is a joke when it's on the sidewalk you have to walk through to reach the bus stop or your car. At least the pot smell doesn't stick to my clothes until they're washed like the tobacco smell.
- nullc 6mo agoI dunno, I think it should be legalized and operation of a car or other heavy machinery while intoxicated should result in a swift and brutal public execution. Win/win. :D But maybe I'm just a little jaded after having lived in a legalized area and almost being run down by hotboxed cars more than once. Functionally in many places where the usage is unlawful, harmless use in people's private homes has very low risk of prosecution while dangerous or disruptive public use is still curtailed. I find it easy to sympathize with people who consider that a better tradeoff. I strongly agree with de-federalizing any such decisions though-- your comment on freedom to move is a great one. I recently relocated to a place where it wasn't legal from one where it was, any when evaluating differential freedoms in making that decision the subject came up and I decided I probably actually preferred the restriction due to the collateral harms (although I strongly chaff at any restrictions on private activities or maintenance of your own body). I wouldn't say it was a major factor in the decision to move (other policy/economic/environmental/security matters were drivers) but for me it wasn't a reason to not make that move.
- caycep 6mo agoI mean, there are plenty of neighborhoods in CA that don't have that smell...
- 0x457 6mo agoThere just no smell like this in any neighborhood outside of college campuses and area close to those. You might get a whiff here and there, but you're going to encounter a lot of smells you don't like here and there.
- realo 6mo agoTHC is perfectly legal here (Quebec, Canada) and believe me, there is no smell on the streets! What is actually disgusting and happens often in the streets is the smell of ordinary cigarette smoke.
- z500 6mo agoThis might be controversial, but smelling either in public makes me happy! Now the stale smell of tobacco-infused clothing, that is awful.
- FuriouslyAdrift 6mo agoIt's not legal where I am at all and I get hotboxed on my morning drive to work every day...
- declan_roberts 6mo agoThe fact that so many people think it's fine to get high and drive is baffling to me.
- dlev_pika 6mo agoIt’s ok if you do it where you arrive at taps forehead
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo ago[flagged]
- FuriouslyAdrift 6mo agoIt's still illegal in all 50 states and a DUI or DWI.
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo agoAnd your point is?
- kjkjadksj 6mo agoOh no, the thought of catching a whiff! No one must smoke in texas, since you know, everyone follows the law. Smoking weed only started in general with legalization. It was mythical beforehand.
- squigz 6mo ago> but only inside your own personal enclosed house. Isn't it usually illegal to smoke things like cigarettes inside rented homes, legality aside? And don't most people rent? That seems like a whole can to deal with.
- Brian_K_White 6mo agoSome people say the same about the smell or noise of babies. It's not a very strong argument for getting ones way in controlling others.
- jonnycoder 6mo agoAre you ok with ciggarete smoke then if you are ok with marijuana smoke?
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo ago[flagged]
- dmitrygr 6mo ago>> Are you ok with ciggarete smoke then if you are ok with marijuana smoke? > Yep. Why wouldn't I be? I'm not a brainwashed Karen. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/secondhand-smoke/health.html https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/secondhand-smoke/health.html
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo ago[flagged]
- dmitrygr 6mo agobabies -> needed for civilization to continue weed -> possibly negative effect on civilization ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2424288/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2424288/) , certainly not a requirement.
- kelnos 6mo agoIf you truly think that "having babies" and "smoking weed" can be compared in any meaningful sense like this, I'm not sure what to tell you.
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- cogman10 6mo agoI think the issue is this isn't seen by politicians as a motivating vote driver. It is, however, a motivation for someone to go out and vote against a politician. That's ultimately what keeps things like MJ illegal. There are just far too many people that will get upset about it if it were made federally legal. My state, Idaho, has one such politician that is constantly bringing up and trying to find ways to keep the wacky tabacy out of the state. Including trying to amend the state constitution for it. He does this because he's mormon and the mormons are scared of the devil's lettuce.
- sir0010010 6mo agoI personally would be okay with having it legal if smoking could still be banned in multifamily complexes. I don't care if my neighbors are using edibles, but since I know that legalized weed means more smoke coming from my neighbors' balconies, I will always vote "No" when marijuana legalization is on the ballot in my location.
- pattilupone 6mo agoCan smoking tobacco be banned in multifamily complexes currently? I'd think the policy would be the same.
- ryoshoe 6mo agoHOAs tend to manage this kind of thing
- hedgedoops2 6mo agoLol, yes, subsidiarity. HOAs, the lowest level of US government.
- dfdsjsdklfjs 6mo ago[flagged]
- bsimpson 6mo agoI don't even smoke - it just offends me deeply to see the Supreme Court rule in a direction that's so blatantly against the Constitution.
- pdonis 6mo agoThat's been going on for a long, long time.
- dfxm12 6mo agoIt's been popular (with over 50% popular support) for the last decade though. The major opponents are the alcohol industry, big pharma and the prison industrial complex. Their lobbying efforts are too powerful. We (the people) don't stand a chance.