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> "We will not allow trial lawyers to profit from our platforms while simultaneously claiming they are harmful." Wow.. That is quite a statement. Am I right i
by bilekas 6mo ago
> "We will not allow trial lawyers to profit from our platforms while simultaneously claiming they are harmful."
Wow.. That is quite a statement. Am I right in saying that in order to claim for the class action lawsuit, which facebook has been 'found negligent', that the victims need to take an action collectively in order to claim ? IE They need to be reached somehow to inform them of the possibility ?
Seems the most obvious place to advertise would be Meta.
I understand Meta can basically do whatever they like with their ToS but the statement from the Meta spokesperson seems like an extremely bad idea.
- 3form 6mo ago"Lawyer benefitting from cases about prostitution equals to a pimp" kind of argument.
- draw_down 6mo ago[dead]
- boringg 6mo agoI mean those class action lawsuits enrich trial lawyers and maybe force companies to behave better (though i bet empirical evidence would show that its more a cost of business). The 20$ dollars people get is nothing but a guise that the trial lawyers are helping people.
- bilekas 6mo agoI'm not sure if the lower price means that class actions shouldn't still be taken. It's to allow companies to not have to deal with individual claims for each person. I see that the ranges can be substantial though, several thousands, but seems to be criteria. > Nearly nine months later, Mark received a notification that his claim had been approved. Two weeks after that, $186 was deposited into his bank account. While the amount wasn’t substantial, it covered a grocery run and a phone bill—and more importantly, it reminded him that companies can be held accountable, even in small ways. [0] [0] https://peopleforlaw.com/blog/how-much-do-people-typically-get-in-a-class-action-lawsuit/ https://peopleforlaw.com/blog/how-much-do-people-typically-g... If the fine's don't dissuade companies from bad practices, the class actions with theoreticaly no upper limit might be a better option to enforce proper behaviour.
- boringg 6mo agoI can agree with that -- however the amount of money the trial lawyers make comparatively is wildly disproportionate. I think that 186$ figure is an example on the high side of payouts to individuals.
- bilekas 6mo ago> however the amount of money the trial lawyers make comparatively is wildly disproportionate It's relative, class actions take an inhumane amount of work, try to validate, in this case 1kk+ people's records and put that into some case that will pass the bar to win. It's not a banal "I have 1kk people who claim the same."
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- bwestergard 6mo agoThey wouldn't profit if the cases didn't have merit.
- HumblyTossed 6mo agoThe judge should have ordered Meta to place a banner on FB so that everyone can see it and join if they're a victim.
- shimman 6mo agoWow this is a really good idea. I wonder if the various state trials happening as well should use this for remediation too. It's not a hard thing to implement on their end and should be mandated by a judge as you said. Filing this away for later use.
- miki123211 6mo agoEurope (Poland) loves this kind of stuff. It often comes up in (anti) free-speech trials, where the government compels the perpetrator to issue a public apology to the victim. Forcing them to buy an ad in a newspaper for example is not unheard of. As far as I understand, Americans consider this to be "compelled speech" and hence prohibited, but I might be wrong on this.
- dcrazy 6mo agoThe same thing happens here. Courts are allowed to compel speech as a method of remedy, but my recollection is that this is sometimes successfully challenged. An interesting variant I’ve seen on anti-smoking banners at convenience stores is “A federal court has ordered a Philip Morris USA to say: …”
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- push0ret 6mo agoIn Austria this is a called "Urteilsveröffentlichung" ("Judgement Publication"; § 25 UWG). It has commonly been used in cases against ISPs. Here is such an example (VKI vs A1 Telekom): https://www.lteforum.at/attachments/a1-urteil-jpg.34162/ https://www.lteforum.at/attachments/a1-urteil-jpg.34162/
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- giancarlostoro 6mo agoWould be really entertaining if all the lawyers affected banded together and made a class action lawsuit full of lawyers as the plaintiffs.
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- malfist 6mo agoHow do you know that? How could you know that? These people are one of the few people holding Meta accountable for their evil acts and because of that you call them "scummiest people in the US" That's nonsense.
- dec0dedab0de 6mo agoThere are many lawyers that gather up victims for class action payouts and take most of the money for themselves. They don't even bother trying to get more when they can, because they're just bottom feeding.
- which 6mo agoIf you read the settlements that come out of these lawsuits, you will pretty much always find an 8 to low 9 figure settlement (that the lawyers get a third of), maybe some superficial policy changes, and $12 checks to the supposed victims who only became victims when they randomly got an email telling them they should join the lawsuit. The only people who benefit are the lawyers.
- reaperducer 6mo agoThe only people who benefit are the lawyers. My special savings account where I deposit the settlement checks from the various tech companies that have violated my privacy or other rights disagrees. Sometimes it's 43¢. Sometimes it's $400. In the last three years, I've put… checking… $5,351.83 in that account because tech companies think laws and morals don't apply to them. Saying that these lawsuits only benefit lawyers is both false and yet another lazy tech bubble cliche. Yes, the lawyers get way more than I do. They also did 99% the work, so I don't hold it against them. Just read the newspaper. Every time you see an article about one of these suits, check it out to see if it applies to you.
- pixl97 6mo agoTobacco lawyers "Putting that cigarettes are harmful on the box would be devastating to our profits!"
- reactordev 6mo agoLiterally every ceo
- deaux 6mo agoYou missed an adjective: literally every megacorp CEO. Plenty of small companies with transparent and honest CEOs. Also why we need much less megacorps than there are now.
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- reactordev 6mo agoBeing good and profit motives will always be at odds.
- bko 6mo agoImagine NYT banning an ad in it's newspaper telling people how to cancel and sue NYT? Wild stuff
- akersten 6mo agoIt would be a better analogy if tobacco companies sold ad space on their packs and chose not to do business with a private for-profit anti-smoking solicitation group.
- stronglikedan 6mo ago> the statement from the Meta spokesperson seems like an extremely bad idea. All corporate CYA ideas sound that way, but ultimately end up benefiting the company in the end. Meta is right to do this. That's not to say it's right to do, but it's right for the company.
- largbae 6mo agoSeems like the lawyers will profit from their platforms _by_ claiming they are harmful.