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Iran war sparks renewables boom as Europeans rush to buy solar, heat pumps, EVs
- juliusceasar 7mo ago[flagged]
- vrganj 7mo agoSo these two are definitely amongst the biggest, but let's not forget about the Russians literally murdering our neighbors.
- pqtyw 7mo agoWell Russia doesn't have much going for it besides oil, nukes (and obviously Trump propping it up).
- gryzzly 7mo ago[flagged]
- gryzzly 7mo ago[flagged]
- spaghetdefects 7mo ago[flagged]
- gryzzly 7mo ago[flagged]
- spaghetdefects 7mo agoSo? We have a Zionism crisis in the tech industry, expect people to discuss it. Mind you 100% of your comments are pro-Zionist propaganda.
- gryzzly 7mo ago[flagged]
- spaghetdefects 7mo agoWhy do you keep calling me ayatollah, again this is very much against site guidelines. Your account should be banned for attacking other users.
- gryzzly 7mo agocause you registered when this war started to spread pro iran propaganda
- guywithahat 7mo ago[flagged]
- ginko 7mo agoWho do you think caused that mass immigration?
- energy123 7mo agoMost recently Russia and Iran's Hezbollah in Syria, and Yemen's civil war involving Iran's Houthis and Egypt/Saudi Arabia. The US was involved in the Syrian civil war but not responsible for most of the civilian destruction. People outside the region have this childish understanding of the ME where Iraq is the only thing that happened (conveniently also forgetting the much more brutal Iran-Iraq war).
- guywithahat 7mo agoAnd to further your point mass immigration into Europe isn't just recent; it's been happening for decades. For a while the Islamic state was encouraging attacks in Europe, and hundreds of people were killed by jihadists running cars through Christmas parades and similar events which peaked ~2016 and 2017. I think the largest was an attack in Nice, France on Bastille day killing 86 and injuring hundreds (https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Nice_truck_attack https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Nice_truck_attack) and another famous one I can think of was the christmas market attack in Berlin, killing 12 and injuring 56 (https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Berlin_truck_attack https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Berlin_truck_attack). These were the result of economic immigration, unrelated to anything specific the US had done.
- vrganj 7mo agoWhere did the Islamic State come from? The power vacuum after the US messed up Iraq and Syria. Every single wave of mass migration towards Europe is the direct result of the US choosing to bomb the Middle East. That's also part of why this time around, everybody's quite this annoyed at America. Also please, use serious sources.
- bpodgursky 7mo agoIf your energy policy was "hope the Ayatollah doesn't have a bad hair day", you didn't have an energy policy. Europe could have left their nuclear power plants turned on. Or drilled in the north sea. Or built LNG import terminals. These were all policy choices that had nothing to do with the US or Israel.
- vrganj 7mo agoThe energy policy is "let's build out renewables". It's happening rn and it's better than any of the options you mention.
- NitpickLawyer 7mo ago> better than any of the options you mention. Yeah, no. Merkel's deal to shut off the nuclear plants to make a coalition was 100% a blunder. Not only in hindsight, with the dependence on russian gas, but in general it was a blunder. Nuclear gives you steady energy in ways that renewables can't. We should absolutely do more renewables, but to shut off working nuclear was not good.
- vrganj 7mo agoI don't disagree, though I see nuclear as an (overly expensive) bridge technology until storage becomes more built-out.
- fpoling 7mo agoNuclear is not that steady. Nuclear plants require a lot of water to cool things. And when a particular hot summer happens, rivers dry out and nuclear reactors have to scale down the power production or even be shutdown. And then they require quite significant maintenance periodically. Granted, in Europe a hot dry summer is when solar is at its peak. So it is much lesser problem than a cold winter with a lot of cloudy days with no wind when nuclear energy is ideal. Still from a perspective of 20 years ago with unknown prospects about renewables natural gas power stations were considered much more reliable and flexible power source compared with nuclear and way more cleaner than coal. Of cause, as long as one gets gas.
- xyzelement 7mo ago[flagged]
- juliusceasar 7mo ago[flagged]
- ben_w 7mo agoIsrael's not even close to being the biggest threat for the way of living in Europe. This is because Israel's neighbours who they are attacking aren't in Europe, and also there's a lot of tourists in Europe that Israel would like to be visiting them, but the point isn't why, it's just that Israel are not themselves a threat to Europe. USA's probably number 2 threat after Russia. But neither Israel's nor the USA's belligerence regarding Iran seems to be so much as painting a target on European backs this time around. Which may be because Iran noticed the USA threatening Europe, IDK.
- fakedang 7mo ago- Israel foments conflicts and urges/pressurizes the US to fight them out on its behalf - already confirmed by General Wesley Clark who talked about the Seven Nation Plan. - Refugees flee those conflicts and move to the closest nations providing asylum en masse - Turkey and then the EU. - Israeli and other Jewish NGOs facilitate refugee migrations to Europe in the name of humanitarianism. The US at least helps/used to help protect Europe via NATO. Israel doesn't.
- krior 7mo agoThe US is a sovreign state. As such it is alone responsible for its actions. The conflict with Iran wouldn't be as hot without the US.
- ben_w 7mo agoNone of those things are a "biggest threat for the way of living in Europe", which is what I was quoting from the now flagged comment from juliusceasar. Not even with the asylum seekers arriving via Turkey; though as the Turkish leadership actively tried to use the flow of asylum seekers to extract concessions from Europe, IMO Turkey gets the blame for that. The US indeed used to help protect Europe via NATO, but even back then (so, two years ago), the much bigger metaphorical footprint of the US vs. Israel means the US posed a bigger threat than Israel currently does just by mis-stepping. Israel may be important to the US, but the nation is just not that potent in any direction in Europe.
- josefritzishere 7mo agoIf only the US was doing this too.
- toomuchtodo 7mo agoIt will again eventually, will just take more time than it otherwise would've taken. https://electrek.co/2026/03/25/eia-new-solar-wind-storage-capacity-fossil-fuels-2026/ https://electrek.co/2026/03/25/eia-new-solar-wind-storage-ca... https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/clean-energy-manufacturing/us-capacity-storage-cell-factories https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/clean-energy-manufactur... https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/balcony-solar-taking-state-legislatures-by-storm https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/balcony-solar-tak... https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/were-harvesting-the-sun-solar-project-california https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/were-harvesting-t... https://www.brightsaver.org/publicly-filed-states https://www.brightsaver.org/publicly-filed-states
- kieranmaine 7mo agoI'd argue it already is. Only 7% of electricity generating capacity being added in 2026 will be natural gas. > Solar power makes up 51% of the planned 2026 capacity additions, followed by battery storage at 28% and wind at 14%. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=67205 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=67205
- toomuchtodo 7mo agoWe can go faster, as China demonstrates (~400GW of renewables deployed annually), and as someone who believes in climate change, I personally would like to go as fast as physics will allow. https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/china-energy-transition-review-2025/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/china-energy-transi... https://www.cfr.org/articles/china-is-planning-decades-ahead-on-clean-energy-the-u-s-has-other-priorities https://www.cfr.org/articles/china-is-planning-decades-ahead... https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/07/10/1119941/china-energy-dominance-three-charts/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/07/10/1119941/china-en... https://e360.yale.edu/digest/china-renewable-photo-essay https://e360.yale.edu/digest/china-renewable-photo-essay https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202601/30/content_WS697cb463c6d00ca5f9a08da7.html https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/statistics/202601/30/cont...
- WarmWash 7mo agoTrump might ironically end up being the guy that pushes society over the green energy tipping point. EVs were all the rage a few years ago, but they were expensive and gas prices collapsed. However if we get another $5-$6/gal gut punch, a lot of people will probably say "You know what? I'm done with this shit."
- sampton 7mo agoSimilar to how Hitler ushered in a whole generation of liberal demacracy and human rights protection across the world.
- pqtyw 7mo agoWell Trump doesn't exactly have the sufficient work ethic, mental acuity or sense of purpose to as much damage (and hopefully not more than a handful of years left on this earth in general to end up having to shot himself in a bunker).
- pjc50 7mo agoUK petrol prices (at time of comment) of ~£1.50/l are equivalent to $7.50/USgal. People around me are expecting to see diesel at £2/l soon.
- ben_w 7mo agoFor much of my late teens and early 20s, I was hearing about people using vegetable oil as a substitute for diesel. If that still works, there may be some additional impact that both limits the fuel price and increases food prices: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/272515844?_gl=1*bdyczr*_up*MQ..*_ga*MTM2MjU1ODA1LjE3NzUxMTkyNjQ.*_ga_H653QXESTP*czE3NzUxMTkyNjMkbzEkZzAkdDE3NzUxMTkyNjMkajYwJGwwJGg4MzQzNjQ4ODQ.*_ga_33B19D36CY*czE3NzUxMTkyNjMkbzEkZzAkdDE3NzUxMTkyNjgkajU1JGwwJGgxNjIxMTI5MjMz https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/272515844?_gl... To the point of the comment you're replying to, US cars are infamously inefficient compared to European cars, and also there's that old quote about how "In the US 100 years is a long time, while in Europe 100 miles is a long way", so the US can still get a price shock even with cheaper fuel than the UK/EU.
- longislandguido 7mo ago[flagged]
- vrganj 7mo agoA complete 900W solar setup you can put on your balcony, plug into an outlet and cover a good chunk of your energy needs costs 200 Euros: https://shop-sicatron.de/products/sicatron-910w-balkonkraftwerk-2x-455-trina-solar-fox-ess-m1-800-e-800w https://shop-sicatron.de/products/sicatron-910w-balkonkraftw... It's thoroughly practical, especially with energy prices being what they are now. Unclear what Apple's pricing policy has to do with this,.
- longislandguido 7mo agoThat sounds extremely dangerous; you cannot add PV (or any secondary source) in the US and connect it to utility power without it being done by an electrician and inspected by the city. I'm shocked that safety-conscious Europe—especially Germany, known for its strict rules—would allow this. Or is this more AliExpress garbage with a German flag glued to it?
- vrganj 7mo agoSounds like the US might have a problem with overregulation holding them back, then?
- toomuchtodo 7mo ago> That sounds extremely dangerous; you cannot add PV (or any secondary source) in the US and connect it to utility power without it being done by an electrician and inspected by the city. This is factually inaccurate. Utah was the first to legalize plug in solar, and 17 other states have legislation pending to do so. It sounds like you are unaware of regulations around islanding in both Europe and the US. This is a solved problem. > The biggest regulatory concern – energizing lines during an outage and putting line workers at risk – is not really an issue, since inverters are covered by UL 1741, and have “anti-islanding” capability. UL 3700 specifically addresses plug in solar risks and mitigating them. Resources on the topic below: https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2026/03/27/the-theory-and-practice-of-plug-in-solar/ https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2026/03/27/the-theory-and-practi... https://solarunitedneighbors.org/resources/what-to-know-about-plug-in-solar/ https://solarunitedneighbors.org/resources/what-to-know-abou... https://www.ul.com/news/ul-solutions-debuts-testing-and-certification-framework-safer-plug-solar-across-united-states https://www.ul.com/news/ul-solutions-debuts-testing-and-cert... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NANIjW3yGsFhpNTzvg30kMHoZyJKnuuFz6EjRdrpgjE/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NANIjW3yGsFhpNTzvg30kMHo... https://permitpower.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2026/01/Safety-of-Plug-in-Solar-fact-sheet.pdf https://permitpower.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/35/2026/01/... https://www.cesa.org/resource-library/resource/plug-in-solar/ https://www.cesa.org/resource-library/resource/plug-in-solar... https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/balcony-solar-taking-state-legislatures-by-storm https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/solar/balcony-solar-tak... https://www.brightsaver.org/publicly-filed-states https://www.brightsaver.org/publicly-filed-states https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/anti-islanding-and-smart-grid-protection https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/anti-islanding-and-smart...
- storus 7mo agoEVs are still a bit underwhelming wrt range - ideally either 450miles/700km or 5 minute 20->80% recharge at an acceptable price (35k EUR) should be the norm. For cities it doesn't matter but for longer vacation trips it's a must, nobody wants to waste 3 hours on a 1100km trip recharging. Chinese EVs might be able to deliver it at this price point (BYD) but EU adds additional (up to) 45% in extra fees to penalize Chinese EV makers and to prevent collapse of EU car makers.
- toomuchtodo 7mo ago1 in 4 vehicles sold globally last year were EVs, and they are >50% of the monthly sales in China, the largest market in the world. EVs are mostly solved, even though they will continue to rapidly improve, both range and charging infrastructure. Norway is at ~100% monthly EV sales, other countries will get there eventually. Importantly, we should expect to go faster as EV sales reach a point where combustion sales have declined to a level where they can no longer support combustion vehicle manufacturers as a going concern. Peak global combustion auto sales occurred in 2017. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47459145 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47459145 (citations)
- storus 7mo agoThe trend is clear but right now they aren't able to replace ICE cars due to what I mentioned above. Either they lack range/recharging convenience or they don't but are too expensive. They need a few more years of scaling or EU to stop penalizing Chinese EVs.
- nomel 7mo agoThat 25% is including ICE. From the reference: > “Electric cars” include battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles
- toomuchtodo 7mo agoICE =! NEVs (which includes BEVs and PHEVs, with BEVs still the majority). If folks want to buy PHEVs until BEVs steamroll them, whatevs, the BEV cost decline and uptake curves speak for themselves. Combustion isn't getting cheaper anytime soon. https://cleantechnica.com/2026/02/03/global-ev-sales-leaders-2025-top-markets-powertrains/ https://cleantechnica.com/2026/02/03/global-ev-sales-leaders... https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025 https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-car-sales-battery-plugin https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-car-sales-battery-p... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/car-sales https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/car-sales
- DoctorOetker 7mo ago[flagged]
- ytoawwhra92 7mo agoThis made me chuckle, thanks.
- fakedang 7mo ago> I don't understand how both the international community as well as say US is dealing with the Iran / Straight of Hormuz crisis. I don't understand how Americans mistakenly keep referring to the Strait of Hormuz as the Straight of Hormuz in spite of English being their first language.
- DoctorOetker 7mo agoA comment about ongoing war is replied with spelling pedantics? Yes while even mapmakers etc during 1500-1700's sometimes used "Straight", the subsequent standardizations in English selected "Strait" as the standard spelling. How would you know if English is or isn't my first language?
- spaghetdefects 7mo ago> perhaps the White House is making up There's your answer.
- jdlshore 7mo agoYea, it’s pretty obvious Trump is lying in an attempt to manipulate the market / voter sentiment. And poorly, too.
- DoctorOetker 7mo agoit seems the message flew over your head this isn't a poll about what you or I believe, it's pointing to the existence of at least one lower-noise avenue than the ones pursued observe that your position is not verifiable by the world at large, while cryptographically signed messages would be veriable by us individuals across the whole world. one may counter that the US could make up a large number of fake crypto key / Iranian associations; but surely to the extent that Iran has a functioning regime, surely it could use the IAEA as a channel to communicate the Iranian cryptographic key observations like: * Khamenei confirms meeting Aragchi in person and Aragchi has chosen such and such a public key * Aragchi confirms meeting Khamenei in person and Khamenei has chosen such and such a public key * and so on for all players interested in participating in confirming the present regime or establishing a new one amidst chaos. (if you don't have control over your physicists at a nuclear power plant, then you don't have control over your regime)