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I think they want the free advertisement, like Apple with its “sent from iPhone” addendums. But “sent from iPhone” is sometimes useful, and significantly shorte

I think they want the free advertisement, like Apple with its “sent from iPhone” addendums. But “sent from iPhone” is sometimes useful, and significantly shorter. If they just left it at “edited with copilot” I think it would be tolerable

silisili 7mo ago
That's exactly where my mind went. It's zero percent more insulting to me than 'sent from my iPhone.' If you don't want copilot garbage in your PRs, maybe don't use copilot to create or edit them?
winrid 7mo ago
It already does that, too, with the co-author
- pavo-etc 7mo ago
  I would argue that is a net positive, it is valuable to know if a language model was involved enough to be committing itself.
  - pinkmuffinere 7mo ago
    +1, it definitely changes the way I interact, and the amount of suspicion I would have for the code.
computomatic 7mo ago
I don't think the issue is the sign-off so much as that an existing PR was edited. Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered. But it won't edit an existing PR, and it won't sign off if I simply ask it not too (which I've automated). Editing any PR it touches - including one authored by someone else - is downright rude.
- marcus_holmes 7mo ago
  > Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered Not only unbothered, but genuinely appreciative of the notification.
- peaklineops 7mo ago
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- sph 7mo ago
  > Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered That's a great feature. When I open a repo and I see most commits co-authored by Claude, I can quickly dismiss the entire project as slop.
politelemon 7mo ago
> But “sent from iPhone” is sometimes useful, No, it is still an advert, and not useful in the least.
- masswerk 7mo ago
  Back in the day, it was useful, as in, "Expect awkward phrasing and unintended effects of autocorrection, because mobile device. This message doesn't necessarily reflect the intent of the sender." (Considerate users would/could edit the signature to something w/o a product name in it.) Nowadays, this is pretty much the norm and no explicit warning ist required anymore.
  - Hizonner 7mo ago
    So an automatic "I am a lazy piece of shit and think my time and convenience are worth more than yours" warning? I guess that's useful.
    - bbkane 7mo ago
      I always felt like it was "I prioritized a speedy response on my phone instead of an elegant response from my computer at a later time".
    - masswerk 7mo ago
      As in, "I put it on you to better check and follow-up before acting on this…" ;-)
  - hnlmorg 7mo ago
    That just means the person sending the message didn’t bother to proof read their message before sending. And you don’t need to be on an iPhone to mistype a message. A simpler explanation was that it was a shameful advert injected into the end of people’s emails.
    - masswerk 7mo ago
      I guess, it was probably intended as the second one (it was also the default email signature, so advertising that feature, as well), but its usefulness was definitely in the implied warning. Mind that a written message used to be the gold standard for expressed intent, which changed quite radically with smartphones. (Historically, this development is probably an important prerequisite for the acceptability of LLM generated text, I guess.)
supernes 7mo ago
"Sent from iPhone" doesn't contain a call to action, and doesn't exalt the features of the product.
- ahoka 7mo ago
  It's still advertisement of the shittiest kind. Comment made using Mozilla Firefox.
  - dist-epoch 7mo ago
    You misunderstood it's purpose: Sent from iPhone - desirable cool rich person Made using Mozilla Firefox - poor uncool nerd

silisili 7mo ago

That's exactly where my mind went. It's zero percent more insulting to me than 'sent from my iPhone.' If you don't want copilot garbage in your PRs, maybe don't use copilot to create or edit them?

winrid 7mo ago

It already does that, too, with the co-author

pavo-etc 7mo ago
I would argue that is a net positive, it is valuable to know if a language model was involved enough to be committing itself.
- pinkmuffinere 7mo ago
  +1, it definitely changes the way I interact, and the amount of suspicion I would have for the code.

computomatic 7mo ago

I don't think the issue is the sign-off so much as that an existing PR was edited. Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered. But it won't edit an existing PR, and it won't sign off if I simply ask it not too (which I've automated). Editing any PR it touches - including one authored by someone else - is downright rude.

marcus_holmes 7mo ago
> Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered Not only unbothered, but genuinely appreciative of the notification.
peaklineops 7mo ago
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sph 7mo ago
> Claude Code signs off when creating PRs and nobody seems bothered That's a great feature. When I open a repo and I see most commits co-authored by Claude, I can quickly dismiss the entire project as slop.

politelemon 7mo ago

> But “sent from iPhone” is sometimes useful, No, it is still an advert, and not useful in the least.

masswerk 7mo ago
Back in the day, it was useful, as in, "Expect awkward phrasing and unintended effects of autocorrection, because mobile device. This message doesn't necessarily reflect the intent of the sender." (Considerate users would/could edit the signature to something w/o a product name in it.) Nowadays, this is pretty much the norm and no explicit warning ist required anymore.
- Hizonner 7mo ago
  So an automatic "I am a lazy piece of shit and think my time and convenience are worth more than yours" warning? I guess that's useful.
  - bbkane 7mo ago
    I always felt like it was "I prioritized a speedy response on my phone instead of an elegant response from my computer at a later time".
  - masswerk 7mo ago
    As in, "I put it on you to better check and follow-up before acting on this…" ;-)
- hnlmorg 7mo ago
  That just means the person sending the message didn’t bother to proof read their message before sending. And you don’t need to be on an iPhone to mistype a message. A simpler explanation was that it was a shameful advert injected into the end of people’s emails.
  - masswerk 7mo ago
    I guess, it was probably intended as the second one (it was also the default email signature, so advertising that feature, as well), but its usefulness was definitely in the implied warning. Mind that a written message used to be the gold standard for expressed intent, which changed quite radically with smartphones. (Historically, this development is probably an important prerequisite for the acceptability of LLM generated text, I guess.)

supernes 7mo ago

"Sent from iPhone" doesn't contain a call to action, and doesn't exalt the features of the product.

ahoka 7mo ago
It's still advertisement of the shittiest kind. Comment made using Mozilla Firefox.
- dist-epoch 7mo ago
  You misunderstood it's purpose: Sent from iPhone - desirable cool rich person Made using Mozilla Firefox - poor uncool nerd