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Yeah the passivity of the US population will be remembered for generations. Of course it's the people talking about freedom the most that do the least, as usual

by khalic 8mo ago

Yeah the passivity of the US population will be remembered for generations. Of course it's the people talking about freedom the most that do the least, as usual, big mouths are antithetical to actions.

pif 8mo ago
Utter idiocy at election day is not passivity. History will put Trumpers and Confederate at the same level of despicability.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
  You mean have a holiday for him? 4-8 states have a Confederacy Memorial Day.
  - codyb 8mo ago
    The gold Donald Trump pin is just part of our culture
  - sigwinch 8mo ago
    I think it’ll be close to that. Probably some of these benefits-heavy red states.
oefrha 8mo ago
I was checking Trump approval ratings yesterday. I didn’t have high hopes but I thought it had to be under 35% at this point (I think in a sane country it has to be <10% or at least <20% after the nonstop madness dropping everyday). But nope, every poll places him at >40% approval or ever so slightly below 40%. To me that’s definitive confirmation that “it’s on Trump and his cronies, not the American people” is nonsense. It’s on at least 40% of American people. They weren’t blindsided by false promises, they want this.
- pjc50 8mo ago
  Exactly. The Trump Show is primarily a media production. Bombing Iranians is a special effect that happens to get people killed. Dead Iranians won't be on camera. The media backers, Fox and now CBS and Paramount (the Weiss empire), will support this and make sure the American people like the war. Americans enjoy their propaganda, it tells them they're the white heroes.
- altmanaltman 8mo ago
  https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/trump-approval-rating-independents-cnn-poll https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/trump-approval-r... A recent report shows the approval numbers, for all americans it's at 36%. For white americans, its at 45%
  - oefrha 8mo ago
    I didn’t see that one, I think I saw 41% on NYTimes, 41% on Reuters, 39% on The Economist, 42% on YouGov, and 43%, 40% elsewhere I don’t recall. Even 36% is sky high for what he did. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-appro... https://www.reuters.com/graphics/TRUMP-POLLS-AUTOMATED/APPROVAL-LIVE/movawrakava/ https://www.reuters.com/graphics/TRUMP-POLLS-AUTOMATED/APPRO... https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://yougov.com/en-us/trackers/donald-trump-approval https://yougov.com/en-us/trackers/donald-trump-approval
  - fdsjgfklsfd 8mo ago
    Aggregators: https://fiftyplusone.news/polls/approval/president https://fiftyplusone.news/polls/approval/president https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin#datawrapper-iframe https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-sil...
jachee 8mo ago
Okay, if you have big actions to show off, then show us how it’s done. You step up and start shooting at the heartless monsters running the first (US armed forces) and second (ICE) most well-funded militaries in the world. Go ahead. We’ll be right there behind you. (Yeah, I’m burning some hn karma for this, I imagine.)
- khalic 8mo ago
  Thank you for giving an example of what I’m talking about. You’re there fantasising about armed conflict when there are a million different actions one can take. But nope, only words, words and more words.
  - jachee 8mo ago
    It’s 5am on a Saturday. What millions of actions do you suggest, O just-as-wordy-yet-holier-than-thou HN commentor?
    - agmater 8mo ago
      https://commonslibrary.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/ https://commonslibrary.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/ here's some to get you started
      - jachee 8mo ago
        The first 17 of those are all variations on “make words”. :P
        lejalv 8mo ago
        Do you know how the deadliest conflict of the XXth century eventually came to be? The words of one Adolf Hitler. Don't dismiss words: they are the necessary link between (individual) thoughts and collective deeds. PS. Trump also got there with words: speeches, slogans, imprecations
bsenftner 8mo ago
The US educational system has been manufacturing these dual career specialists that are competent in their careers and believe that makes them specialists in all other area, but they get played like fools constantly. The level of discourse, of public conversation, is like 7th graders. Until you get to politics, then it's "sports talk" with "winning" being all that matters, even if winning means the destruction of law and of completely corrupt forever future.
- quantified 8mo ago
  And, I believe, a sufficiently comfortable population isn't motivated to act. With social media and streaming, people aren't bored enough/are too engagingly distracted to bother.
raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
It’s not passivity - it’s active approval. 40% of people actively cheer everything he is doing

by khalic 8mo ago

pif 8mo ago

Utter idiocy at election day is not passivity. History will put Trumpers and Confederate at the same level of despicability.

raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
You mean have a holiday for him? 4-8 states have a Confederacy Memorial Day.
- codyb 8mo ago
  The gold Donald Trump pin is just part of our culture
- sigwinch 8mo ago
  I think it’ll be close to that. Probably some of these benefits-heavy red states.

oefrha 8mo ago

I was checking Trump approval ratings yesterday. I didn’t have high hopes but I thought it had to be under 35% at this point (I think in a sane country it has to be <10% or at least <20% after the nonstop madness dropping everyday). But nope, every poll places him at >40% approval or ever so slightly below 40%. To me that’s definitive confirmation that “it’s on Trump and his cronies, not the American people” is nonsense. It’s on at least 40% of American people. They weren’t blindsided by false promises, they want this.

pjc50 8mo ago
Exactly. The Trump Show is primarily a media production. Bombing Iranians is a special effect that happens to get people killed. Dead Iranians won't be on camera. The media backers, Fox and now CBS and Paramount (the Weiss empire), will support this and make sure the American people like the war. Americans enjoy their propaganda, it tells them they're the white heroes.
altmanaltman 8mo ago
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/trump-approval-rating-independents-cnn-poll https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/trump-approval-r... A recent report shows the approval numbers, for all americans it's at 36%. For white americans, its at 45%
- oefrha 8mo ago
  I didn’t see that one, I think I saw 41% on NYTimes, 41% on Reuters, 39% on The Economist, 42% on YouGov, and 43%, 40% elsewhere I don’t recall. Even 36% is sky high for what he did. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-appro... https://www.reuters.com/graphics/TRUMP-POLLS-AUTOMATED/APPROVAL-LIVE/movawrakava/ https://www.reuters.com/graphics/TRUMP-POLLS-AUTOMATED/APPRO... https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://yougov.com/en-us/trackers/donald-trump-approval https://yougov.com/en-us/trackers/donald-trump-approval
- fdsjgfklsfd 8mo ago
  Aggregators: https://fiftyplusone.news/polls/approval/president https://fiftyplusone.news/polls/approval/president https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin#datawrapper-iframe https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-sil...

jachee 8mo ago

Okay, if you have big actions to show off, then show us how it’s done. You step up and start shooting at the heartless monsters running the first (US armed forces) and second (ICE) most well-funded militaries in the world. Go ahead. We’ll be right there behind you. (Yeah, I’m burning some hn karma for this, I imagine.)

khalic 8mo ago
Thank you for giving an example of what I’m talking about. You’re there fantasising about armed conflict when there are a million different actions one can take. But nope, only words, words and more words.
- jachee 8mo ago
  It’s 5am on a Saturday. What millions of actions do you suggest, O just-as-wordy-yet-holier-than-thou HN commentor?
  - agmater 8mo ago
    https://commonslibrary.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/ https://commonslibrary.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/ here's some to get you started
    - jachee 8mo ago
      The first 17 of those are all variations on “make words”. :P
      - lejalv 8mo ago
        Do you know how the deadliest conflict of the XXth century eventually came to be? The words of one Adolf Hitler. Don't dismiss words: they are the necessary link between (individual) thoughts and collective deeds. PS. Trump also got there with words: speeches, slogans, imprecations

bsenftner 8mo ago

The US educational system has been manufacturing these dual career specialists that are competent in their careers and believe that makes them specialists in all other area, but they get played like fools constantly. The level of discourse, of public conversation, is like 7th graders. Until you get to politics, then it's "sports talk" with "winning" being all that matters, even if winning means the destruction of law and of completely corrupt forever future.

quantified 8mo ago
And, I believe, a sufficiently comfortable population isn't motivated to act. With social media and streaming, people aren't bored enough/are too engagingly distracted to bother.

raw_anon_1111 8mo ago

It’s not passivity - it’s active approval. 40% of people actively cheer everything he is doing