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"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label r
by NickAndresen 7mo ago
"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as essential to national security." from Dario's statement (https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war)
- johnbarron 7mo agoIs this the same Administration that reversed a previous block, and allowed NVIDIA to sell H200 to China?
- onlyrealcuzzo 7mo agoGood thing this administration will be a lame duck in 8 months, and they know it.
- kapluni 7mo agoa very optimistic view
- onlyrealcuzzo 7mo agohttps://kalshi.com/markets/controlh/house-winner/controlh-2026 https://kalshi.com/markets/controlh/house-winner/controlh-20... https://polymarket.com/event/which-party-will-win-the-house-in-2026 https://polymarket.com/event/which-party-will-win-the-house-...
- dlev_pika 7mo agoSo cool we can bet on whether the Trump admin will attempt another coup - what a time to be alive
- SpicyLemonZest 7mo agoThe terms of these markets do not account for a scenario, quite likely if authoritarian takeover does happen, where the House of Representatives is a rump organization which does not exercise effective power. There was a years-long period in Venezuela where the country's traditional legislature met and conducted business under the leadership of the opposition party, but actual legislative power was held jointly by the Supreme Court and a secondary legislature that Nicolas Maduro set up.
- netsharc 7mo agoThe branch of government tasked to execute the law has been ignoring laws. So we'll get a (from Trump's point of view) adversarial congress, so what, let's ignore them, what are they going to do about it? Looking forward to a military platoon defying orders and seizing the president, hey, all countries suffer through coups, about time this young democracy go through one!
- small_model 7mo ago[flagged]
- actionfromafar 7mo agoZombie Duck
- amelius 7mo agoAre you sure? They have one skill: playing social media, and it serves them well.
- japhyr 7mo agoThat's part of why they are trying to take control of elections, which have (I believe) historically been the responsibility of each state.
- amarant 7mo ago"trump is definitely gonna lose the election" is a prediction I've heard many times. I know better than to trust it by now
- dylan604 7mo agoAt least twice. Luckily, that's the max number
- autoexec 7mo agoNot according to him
- onlyrealcuzzo 7mo ago1/2 isn't bad. He also lost his only midterm so far.
- ViewTrick1002 7mo agoUnless ICE ensures it’s is a ”fair” election with the ”correct” outcome.
- dylan604 7mo agoLuckily, the oval office is on the ground floor, so it's safe to stand next to the windows
- stdgy 7mo agoWell, you see, that's completely different. Nvidia agreed to give them money!
- johnbarron 7mo agoSilly me...its true! - $1,000,000 donation from NVIDIA CORPORATION to the Trump–Vance Inaugural Committee. - $1,000,000-per-head Mar-a-Lago dinner where Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang attended. - Jensen Huang’s contribution toward Trump’s "White House ballroom" project. Confirmed, but undisclosed value...lets says at least another $1,000,000?
- koakuma-chan 7mo ago$1,000,000 doesn't seem like a lot of money for them, why would it matter to them?
- pavel_lishin 7mo agoTo Nvidia, or to the recipients?
- koakuma-chan 7mo agoBoth?
- johnbarron 7mo agoAh yes, again the: "I am so rich I could not possibly be corrupt!" "Trump’s Profiteering Hits $4 Billion" - https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/trumps-profiteering-hits-four-billion-dollars https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/trumps-pr... "How much money President Trump and his family have made" - https://www.npr.org/2026/01/14/nx-s1-5677024/trump-profits-merch-hotels-crypto https://www.npr.org/2026/01/14/nx-s1-5677024/trump-profits-m...
- loupol 7mo agoA good reason to outlaw bribes is that politicians tend to be incredibly cheap and offer an extremely high ROI. Albeit at the cost of a nice democracy.
- ctoth 7mo agoThe Purpose of a System is WHAT IT DOES!
- gustavus 7mo agohttps://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpose-of https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...
- sigbottle 7mo agoGreat read. I've always noticed that the type of argument invoked is often less telling than when and in which context you invoke that argument. You can make a lot of claims and they can match to reality a lot - normally people think of evaluating things in terms of a strict "does this fit or does this not", but it's often the meta-style (why do you keep bringing up that argument in that context?) that's important, even if it's not "logically bulletproof".
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- gustavus 7mo agohttps://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-posiwid https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comment...
- Merovius 7mo agoWow that post is bad. The author clearly never actually attempted to understand what POSWID actually means and where it is coming from. Perhaps, instead of looking at Twitter, they should have opened Wikipedia. Or, better yet, Stafford Beers books (though admittedly, he was a pretty atrocious writer). The follow-up is slightly better. But still not very convincing, IMO. They get far too stuck on a literal interpretation. Of something that self-describes as a heuristic.
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- cco 7mo agoI would not be surprised if an outcome of this may be a 10% government stake (maybe golden share owned by Trump) in Anthropic.
- cataphract 7mo agoUnconstitutionally, no less: "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.".
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- gullibriem 7mo agoCircus-grade contortionism here.
- mupuff1234 7mo agoIs it? Are you claiming nuclear bombs are not both essential and also a risk to national security? Aren't all the AI companies saying that AI poses even a greater threat to humanity than nukes? How can these two not be deeply connected? If a technology poses humanity extinction level of risk of course it will also be a matter of national security - how can it not be?
- sampo 7mo ago> Aren't all the AI companies saying that AI poses even a greater threat to humanity? 20-30 years ago eco-terrorists bombed and burned down a number of biological research laboratories and other targets, because of the perceived risks of gene technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front#Notable_attacks:_1998%E2%80%932009 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front#Notable... Given all the current talk (and the famous scifi movies) about the risks of AI, I am a bit puzzled how there are no similar activists groups trying to sabotage AI facilities. What is it that made the risk from gene manipulation feel so much more real and leading to actions, than the current AI risk? The Terminator movie franchise is more famous than any scifi movies about gene technology. (Edit: I guess Jurassic Park franchise surpasses The Terminator.)
- anigbrowl 7mo agoGiven all the current talk (and the famous scifi movies) about the risks of AI, I am a bit puzzled how there are no similar activists groups trying to sabotage AI facilities. I am not. Anyone who understands the various downside risks and has a basic grasp of how the technology works also understands that compute is fungible and that there's no way to point at a given data center and be sure about whether it's providing search functionality, hosting cat pictures, enabling online shopping, training AI, or keeping planes from falling out of the sky. Even if you receive guidance in a vision that a given data center is bad, how do you deal with the reality of load balancing and the knowledge that the evil computation you hate won't be just hosted on a different server instance? The Terminator movie franchise I agree with you in that people probably do understand the existential risks of AI run riot better than many other possibilities due to those movies. But the problem is that the movies all depend on time travel. The unwilling human protagonists are persuaded to undertake drastic life altering criminal action based on information from The Future: both absolutely compelling demonstrations of technology from The Future (to justify the moral decision) and highly specific historical analysis from The Future (providing the operational gameplan). I don't recall the specific plot crises of every movie, but all of them have well-defined success conditions, such as: ensuring the Terminator is destroyed and Sarah Connor survives; ensuring Cyberdyne Systems and the Terminators are destroyed and John Connor survives; ensuring the bad Terminator is destroyed before it can push the Skynet OS to production on every consumer computer device etc. For every dystopia-advancing use of time travel, there's a good use of time-travel helpfully pinpointing exactly where everything went wrong and what to do about it. But back in the real world, even if you have absolute moral clarity that the creation of Skynet/the Torment Nexus/the Basilisk is imminent and must be stopped, how exactly do you go about this? I can think of a few people who have tried to attack data centers (for political/ideological reasons) and not only did they end up in federal prison, they also had no operational impact whatsoever. Realistically, we maintain a social status quo despite approximately quarterly assassinations, massacres of schooldren, or similar atrocities; why would any rational actor expect to alter the course of history by targeting a faceless abstraction? Even if the top ten tech CEOs were all simultaneously assassinated tomorrow, would things be substantively different a month later? Once the public freakout subsided, the companies would get new CEOs with much more proactive security details, a bunch of restrictive new laws would be promulgated, and everything would carryon more or less as before.
- seliopou 7mo agoI don’t see a contradiction here. If control is out of the hands of decision makers, that’s a supply chain risk . Were it not for that, the service is seen as critical to national security. I dunno, safeguard seems like a weasel word here. It’s just reserving control to one party over another. It’s understandable why the DoD(W) wouldn’t like that.
- bubblewand 7mo agoI'm pretty sure you (and others) are trying to apply some kind of guess at the "supply chain risk" designation, but it means something specific. Here's the term defined in an official context: https://www.acquisition.gov/dfars/252.239-7018-supply-chain-risk https://www.acquisition.gov/dfars/252.239-7018-supply-chain-....
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- seliopou 7mo agoThat link is broken for me but I assume you meant to link to [0]. I think if there is a “safeguard” in a system, that definitely fits the bill of a supply chain risk. The only vague term here is “adversary”. [0]: https://www.acquisition.gov/dfars/252.239-7018-supply-chain-risk https://www.acquisition.gov/dfars/252.239-7018-supply-chain-....
- bubblewand 7mo agoUgh, sorry for the broken link, I even pasted the same string into a new tab to make sure it worked because I thought the period at the end looked weird, and it was fine. Dunno how it got mangled. [EDIT] Oh man, yours is like that too? WTF. [EDIT2] If I follow your link, hit the 404 page, then add a period at the end of the URL, it does load. God that's strange.
- irthomasthomas 7mo agoThat's a shame. They might at least continue to work together to spy on foreigners. I don't understand the fuss anyway, what do claude models do that gpt and gemini can't?
- niobe 7mo agoit's more the way they do them.. you've used them right?
- irthomasthomas 7mo agoSure but I don't find them irreplaceable. Actually anthropic models have dropped out of my top ten usage this month. I only use opus occasionally for writing plans, its been pretty unreliable at executing.
- calgoo 7mo agoAs a foreigner, i see this as a great thing! I was about to cancel my Claude sub, but now i might hold on to it for a little and see how this plays out.
- jonplackett 7mo agoFor these people, it is just about control.
- thomassmith65 7mo agoFuture Trump rally: "And I hear Anthropic monkeyed with their dishonest chatbot Claude. They turned it Democrat! They trained it to say we lost the election against Sleepy Joe!"
- anigbrowl 7mo agoYou shouldn't be downvoted for this absolutely plausible prediction.
- outside2344 7mo agoThe real question we should be asking is what others HAVE agreed to. Has OpenAI just agreed to let the government go crazy with their models?
- baxtr 7mo agoCan someone in plain terms explain what this is really about? Anyone can use Claude afaik?
- refulgentis 7mo agoI reached to answer but idk what you mean by the second question. Long story short, Department of “War” wants Anthropic to say theres no restrictions on their use of Claude, Anthropic wants to say you can’t use Claude for domestic mass surveillance or automating killing people domestically or in foreign countries. Rest is just complication. And don’t peer too closely at the “Do”W”” wants Anthropic to say $X, the Team Red line (or, whatever’s left of them publicly after this last year) is basically “you can’t tell the gov’t what it can and can’t do, that’s it, it’s not that Do”W” will use it for that”
- jeffparsons 7mo agoClaude won't answer questions about what cities you should nuke in what order. The Pentagon wants Claude to answer those sorts of questions for them. Edit: oops, I misunderstood. This seems to be more about contractual restrictions.
- mardef 7mo agoClaude will answer all of those questions. The restriction Anthropic has is letting Claude pull the trigger and vibe-murder with no humans in the loop. This restriction is apparently "radically woke"
- yk 7mo agoFrom the public comments over the last few days, my guess is they want a militarized version of Claude. Starting with a box they want to put in the basement of the Pentagon where Antropic can't just switch off the ai. Then some guardrails are probably quite bothersome for the military and they want them removed. Concretely if you try to vibe-target your ICBMs Claude is hopefully telling you that that's a bad idea. Now, my guess is in the ensuing lawsuit Antropic's defense will be that that is just not a product they offer, somewhat akin to ordering Ford to build a tank variant of the F150.
- tamimio 7mo agoIt feels like when you are negotiating a contract for job with a toxic employer who you still don’t know they are toxic yet.
- DivingForGold 7mo agoSupply chain risk ? Seems the risk here is the US Gov't wanting free reign to do whatever they want - - when they want. Look no further than the famous expose by Mark Klein, the former AT&T technician and whistleblower who exposed the NSA's mass surveillance program in 2006, revealing the existence of "Room 641A" in San Francisco. He discovered that AT&T was using a "splitter" to copy and divert internet traffic to the NSA, proving the government was monitoring massive amounts of domestic communication.
- chrisandchris 7mo agoAnd I think on big difference between <2006 and now is that back then nobody knew about it - now they just request it in public.
- cyanydeez 7mo agoThe risk is a business that doesn't lick the boot might speak truth to power.
- josh2600 7mo agoI served on the eboard of CWA local 9410 when all of that was going down. Words cannot describe how crazy things were at that time. I feel like someone will make a movie about it someday.
- Terr_ 7mo agoIt's scary to me that there are a significant voting-bloc out there who don't see this kind of zero-integrity (and self-serving) behavior as disqualifying in anyone wielding authority. Worse, they act like it's virtuous.
- SilverElfin 7mo agoTrump wrote a long rant on Truth Social and ordered ALL federal agencies to stop using Anthropic. Not just the department of defense. This is straight up authoritarian. Meanwhile, irrelevant "AI Czar" David Sacks, member of the PayPal mafia alongside known Epstein affiliates Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, is furiously retweeting all the posts from Trump, Hegseth, and other accounts. He is such a coward and anti American: https://xcancel.com/davidsacks https://xcancel.com/davidsacks