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> They will sell their gas at discount to China until the very end. Yes and no. There's a minimum price they need to sell it, and somewhere in between they may
by ericmay 9mo ago
> They will sell their gas at discount to China until the very end.
Yes and no. There's a minimum price they need to sell it, and somewhere in between they may not actually make enough between the minimum and sale price to actually fund their military. Nevermind the awesome job you guys are doing blowing up refineries and other industrial facilities. It'll be good when Europe stops importing Russian gas and steps up their seizure of sanctioned ships too.
Sanctions can and will work against Russia. Part of the strain they face today is due to these sanctions, it just takes awhile and in the meantime, unfortunately, there are people dying.
- k_bx 9mo agoThank you sir, I wish your words will eventually come true
- nradov 9mo agoI favor harsher sanctions against Russia but let's not be too optimistic. It doesn't take much funding to recruit a poor, desperate guy from the outer provinces, hand him a surplus rifle, and send him into a human wave attack. In a perverse sort of way, killing off those guys might actually be reducing Russian government expenses.
- neocron 9mo agoThe bad thing is, they always did this and it worked. The good thing is, those russians stopped growing back with birthrates being one of the lowest in the world. We might just see a world without any russians in a few decades. What a dream
- esseph 9mo agoWhat the fuck did I just read
- ponector 9mo ago"I have a dream" but version for Eastern Europe.
- drysine 9mo agoYeah, imagine how it reads from Russia and what kind of motivation it gives.
- benterix 9mo agoProbably the parent lives in one of the countries neighboring with Russia and unfortunately Russia is very unfriendly towards its neighbors, invading them when it wants, so you live in constant fear. From that perspective, this is just a variation of "I want to live in peace" expressed in an extreme way.
- bulbar 9mo agoMany welcomed the Nazis when they invaded Eastern Europe because they relieved them from the Soviets. When literal Nazis are perceived as the better option you can imagine the alternative isn't very shiny.
- ericmay 9mo agoPart of Russian propaganda over the years has been this view of the "clean Red Army". You see it all over the Internet. "American history books teach it wrong". It was the Soviets, they insist, that fought the good war and good victory over the Nazis and western powers only fought the frail, old German army in the west. Reality on the ground is much different. While the Soviets did bear the brunt of the Nazi onslaught, what is often overlooked is their own culpability in the war (invading and splitting Poland in partnership with the Nazis, &c) and their evil annexations of peoples and countries that were nearby as part of their own power-grab. In other words, part of the reason they were in the war in the first place is because they joined the Nazis in effectively kicking it off, at least in Europe. Soviet apologists also tend to forget that the United States and other anglo powers* simultaneously fought the Nazis in the west, took down the Japanese, invaded and liberated Italy, the Philippines, and more, fought and won in North Africa, and did all of this while providing the Soviets with the equipment they needed to stay in the war. Nevermind staging additional campaigns and operations, such as those in China to aid them against Japanese occupation. * I don't intend to suggest that it was only the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada that fought the good fight because we undoubtedly received heroic contributions from numerous allies and friends during the war.
- BobaFloutist 9mo agoI think probably if Russia ran out of money for drones and missiles and could only support human wave attacks, Ukraine would be pretty happy.
- nradov 9mo agoRussia won't run out of drones as long as they can trade fossil fuels to China in exchange for weapons.
- ponector 9mo agoIf so then why are they paying millions of rubles to their people to voluntarily enlist to the assault meatwave? Russians are killing their future for sure.
- sebazzz 9mo agoApparently they are recruiting from Kenia too, promising great pay, but in reality they are being abused as cannon fodder.
- tim333 9mo agoThat stuff isn't working very well at the moment though. The poor desperate guys are getting killed by drones faster than they can be recruited. And Russia's other thing at sending missile at cities is quite expensive.
- shevy-java 9mo ago> Sanctions can and will work against Russia. We hear this mantra since almost 5 years. I am not saying there should not be sanctions, but at some point the strategic lies need to end.
- Etherlord87 9mo agoMaybe you should update your epistemology and stop listening to the guys that said so; I listen to the experts who say (since 2022) sanctions hurt, but russia is like a big tree - even if you poison it, it won't fall on the next day; it doesn't help that russia has disproportionately big spy network - people will take more abuse before they rebel against their government.
- readthenotes1 9mo agoI think shevy was pointing out that some experts have assured us since before the war that sanctions can and will cripple Russia any day now. Their epistemology doesn't need updating; the politicians fibbing need to be ridiculed.
- benterix 9mo agoIt is a known strawman argument. The sanctions weren't introduced because someone was convinced they will make Russia fail or what not, they were introduced because this was the only thing we could do barring military action that nobody was ready for. We knew they will have a negative impact on Russian economy but nobody was hoping for a miracle. Countries like Iran or North Korea were living under sanctions for years and they are much smaller. I haven't seen anybody arguing otherwise, barring YouTube clickbaity "Russia is falling" videos.
- wiseowise 9mo agoRussia has one of the biggest war chests in the world, huge reserves of carbon fuel that it can afford to sell under market rates, and is supported by China. It can sustain even hardest sanctions for a long while, lifting them certainly wouldn’t help.
- Elixir6419 9mo agoI am genuinely curious where is the historical example where sanctions worked? Korea? Cuba? Their regimes are fine, their people are less so.