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How long before they come for Hacker News ? Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here that might be construed as remotely critical of ICE or Tru
by KnuthIsGod 8mo ago
How long before they come for Hacker News ?
Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here that might be construed as remotely critical of ICE or Trump.
A court order will not help you if ICE have already shot you dead.
- lokar 8mo agoOr, adjust your priorities and resist more. Authoritarians win when people let them.
- jmclnx 8mo agoPlus in Nov or 2026, get out and vote, no matter how hard it is to get to the polls. This happened because people sat on their behinds and did nothing in Nov 2024,
- assimpleaspossi 8mo agoNah. People who sit on social media would rather stand on street corners and yell at people.
- gmerc 8mo agoWon't matter. Donny put the epstein files out, redacted, to remind every single influential person in the blast radius that unless he keeps holding the redaction pen, all their lives will be over.
- lokar 8mo agoOne thing to consider: it’s clear he was very widely connected in American elite circles. It’s likely that almost all prominent people (in finance, business, the arts, science, government, etc) all came across him. We know he worked pretty hard to get intertwined with everyone he could. And yet, although the list of his connections is large, it’s very far from most of these people. It seems plenty of people saw him for who he was and steered clear.
- juanani 8mo ago[dead]
- lokar 8mo agoAnd, try to talk to people who don't agree with you. Have an open mind, listen, avoid being judgmental and critical. It's not easy, but you can change minds.
- 1970-01-01 8mo agoIndeed. We're not too far from "I am Spartacus."
- lawn 8mo agoI think it's prudent to both resist and to protect yourself.
- DavidSJ 8mo agoI don’t think we should preemptively surrender our free speech to the authoritarians.
- ryanmcbride 8mo agoOkay you go ahead and give in I'm gonna not though
- comrade1234 8mo agoI swear many years ago you could delete old posts but not any longer. About all you can do now is do something so egregious that they delete your account.
- bink 8mo agoEven if you could delete comments, in this day and age it's not a real deletion. They'd just put a "deleted" flag on the comment in the DB.
- Macha 8mo agoAnd there's a bunch of full scrapes of HN around anyway.
- nozzlegear 8mo agoThere's likely many iterations of HN comment datasets out there from "show hn: I scraped everyone's comments for my comp sci/big data class" over the years.
- asdff 8mo agoYou can do it just you have to email dang directly about it. Pretty stupid system.
- nozzlegear 8mo agoPretty sure they only change the username to something anonymous though, and remove any PII in comments you've written, right? They won't delete the comments themselves AFAIK.
- helterskelter 8mo agoArchive.org probably already has it anyway.
- 46493168 8mo agoThat’s actually how I got my Facebook deleted in 2015, and it appears I am still banned. I posted a picture, from behind, of a cowboy wearing only chaps. I tried to join again around 2022 to sell some stuff and they rejected me. Probably the best move I made for my mental health tbh.
- add-sub-mul-div 8mo agoYou can't delete comments here. It's why I've only ever made anonymous throwaway posts or comments. But in this specific case I do not agree with complying with this bullshit in advance.
- madaxe_again 8mo agoMan, they can fucking blow me. If you start censoring yourself because of potential consequences, you’re complicit. Sooner a dead lion than some kind of shabby boot-donkey.
- dagi3d 8mo agoFearing the consequences doesn't make you a complicit but a victim. Sure there will be people who will take a more brave/difficult stance, but can't blame others for not doing so, we don't know they'd put at stake.
- organsnyder 8mo agoYou can be both complicit and a victim.
- booleandilemma 8mo agoThis is known as a "chilling effect". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
- mikestew 8mo agoLet ‘em come. Even if I could delete my posts (you can’t, BTW), I’m not deleting shit. And I’m sure not obeying in advance.
- asdff 8mo agoLet them come for us. If it comes to that, trolling social media to arrest american citizens en masse, people are going to be forming militias and I'll join up the local outfit. I don't care anymore. I'm ready to take a stand if it comes to it and take back our country and I'm sure I'm not alone on that either.
- endemic 8mo agoI feel like this is the inevitable end result. Ironic that we’ll finally get well-regulated militias.
- marysminefnuf 8mo agoI want the government to know how i feel. I want them to see my posts and comments. If this anonymous surveilance without warrants is the only way to be acknowledged then thats a form of protest to me and it has made me want to be more outspoken knowing we are all being watched. Fuck ice.
- LightBug1 8mo agoFor the record: FUCK ICE, bunch of pseudo-fascist thugs, or paid off mercenaries. Wankers, the lot of em.
- GaryBluto 8mo agoI hope that this is hyperbolic satire and not a genuine viewpoint because it is incredibly unrealistic to the point of being almost fantastical. The US government aren't going to "go after" or interfere with Hacker News at any time in the future unless it suddenly, inexplicably becomes a popular hotbed of political activism (which it shouldn't become anyway).
- reaperducer 8mo agounless it suddenly, inexplicably becomes a popular hotbed of political activism That's the thing about AI and scale. You don't have to only target the big fish. You can cast a wide net and scoop up data on people in every nook and cranny of the internet. The concentration camps were loaded with people who thought their town was too small for the Nazis to bother with.
- sroussey 8mo agoYou don’t even need AI, just data brokers. And no warrant needed, only cash.
- Terr_ 8mo agoWhy do you think these folks operate in a rational and proportional manner? All it takes is one "wrong" thing to go viral and anybody goes in the retribution list.
- malcolmgreaves 8mo agoWrong. They are kidnapping American citizens and exiling them. They’re imprisoning people that criticize the government. It’s a totalitarian regime. With enough time, will come after all dissenters. > popular hotbed of political activism First, it is unbelievably illegal for the government to do this. Second, pain is their objective. Republicans have had no principles since they elected Trump in 2016. Their only objective is to hurt whomever they consider the enemy. And everyone that isn’t screaming “I love the orange dictator!” is an enemy.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo agoIt is highly illegal - unconstitutional - for them to go after HN, even if it becomes a popular hotbed of political activism.
- krautburglar 8mo agoOne day redhat is going to grease Trump's pole with enough cash, and King Donald is going to send a member of his tribal-tattooed, part-time MAGA influencer burgerwaffen to pull-up the black van and take you under cover of night for posting wrongthink about wayland & systemd.
- ynac 8mo agoTo all the replies herein: Dang - I haven't read that kind of hacker attitude anywhere, even here, in a long time ya'll. I ain't kiddin', I got a little weepy. I don't know what the rally cry of hackers would be, but Atari 800, assembly code, and solder smoke for all!
- zaptheimpaler 8mo ago[flagged]
- Alupis 8mo ago> They have released 2% of the epstein files 3,500,000 pages[1] have been released, including 2,000 videos and 180,000 images. If this was only "2%" of the files, you're alleging there's 175,000,000 pages of documents. Absolute nonsense. That's not even realistic. Not to mention nobody but the government knows how many pages are in "the files" - anything else you see is just made up. > Im not a conspiracy theorist at all... murder of hundreds or thousands of girls and 1 year old babies laugh out loud... [1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-publishes-35-million-responsive-pages-compliance-epstein-files https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-publishes-...
- zaptheimpaler 8mo agohttps://x.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/2022425434626183307?s=61 https://x.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/2022425434626183307?s=61 this is one example mentioning babies. There are hundreds of other pictures and emails re young girls. If you bother to look into this, you will see. you would rather feel superior nitpicking a minor detail while missing the fucking point. Good job. Heres another crumb, a tiny sliver of evidence: https://hyperallergic.com/epstein-files-detail-gruesome-allegations-against-leon-black/ https://hyperallergic.com/epstein-files-detail-gruesome-alle...
- Alupis 8mo agoYou're interpreting that email to mean they've killed thousands of one year old babies? Or perhaps it was a joke about a party that had a bunch of babies at it... I dare say, you're so deep down the conspiracy rabbit hole you don't know which way is up.
- zaptheimpaler 8mo agoI said thousands of victims, not thousands of babies or murders. That much is confirmed even by the FBI. https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline#:~:text=Consistent%20with%20prior%20disclosures%2C%20this,%2C%20associates%2C%20and%20employment%20history https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline#:~:text=... Some of these claims don't have bulletproof video evidence and DNA, and i suspect you would call those fake too even if they did but they are not unbelievable when considered in the context of everything that's been shown. I can't do that for you. Anyways, if that's not enough for you to even spend some time reading the news, then I don't know what is. Enjoy being stupid and smug.
- nozzlegear 8mo agoIf Trump's going to throw me in his El Salvador gulag for being a deep state Soros-backed neoliberal globalist shill on HN, I'm going to make sure somebody in his regime at least has to read my bullshit first.
- goatlover 8mo agoPreach comrade. And I want them to reflect on how they're protecting the Epstein Class while going after free speech.
- tehjoker 8mo agoThey have a limited amount of power to suppress opinion even with their powerful tools and thugs. Their method is to go after big platforms and prominent individuals. If you keep speaking up anyway, it will overwhelm them.
- metabagel 8mo agoICE and CBP are building a lot of concentration camps. Clearly, they are planning to fill them.
- viraptor 8mo ago> Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here It's too late. Multiple copies of all the posts exist already.
- SubiculumCode 8mo agoSorry. No. I'm not going to get pushed around by a bunch of bootlickers.
- myvoiceismypass 8mo agoThe HN owners have virtually unlimited funds to pay tribute to dear leader and zero morals, so this is not a real possibility.