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One year in my city they were installing 4-way stop signs everywhere based on some combination of "best practices" and "screeching Karens". Even the residents
by cucumber3732842 9mo ago
One year in my city they were installing 4-way stop signs everywhere based on some combination of "best practices" and "screeching Karens". Even the residents don't like them in a lot of places so over time people just turn the posts in the ground or remove them.
Every now and the I'll GPS somewhere and there will be a phatom stop sign in the route and I chuckle to myself because it means the Google car drove through when one of these signs was "fresh".
- pixl97 9mo agoScrewing with a stop sign because you don't like it is a great way to end up on the wrong end of a huge civil liability lawsuit
- cucumber3732842 9mo agoPut down the pearls. It's not me personally doing it. They never fixed any of them. I don't think the DPW cares. These intersection just turned back into the 2-way stops they had been for decades prior. Compliance probably technically went up since you no longer have the bulk of the traffic rolling it.
- reactordev 9mo agoThis. Rural America really doesn’t care about your stop sign or your Karen rules. If it’s been that way for 20+ years, “That’s the way it’s always been” to them. Getting people to stop burning their trash is still a fight.
- fragmede 9mo agoIf you're already commiting crimes, what you seem to be saying is don't get caught.
- renewiltord 9mo agolol the idea that any enforcement to that degree exists in the US is a fiction.
- wyldfire 9mo agoThe fact that you used the term "enforcement" here makes me presume you are thinking of criminal consequences. But the grandparent comment talks about civil liability. Certainly if there were injuries at this intersection and they knew who had altered the signage, attorneys would argue liability on the part of the vandal. They'd get settlements if not win cases this way. In addition, if there were serious injuries here you should also expect some criminal consequences. But if your point was to suggest that they won't hunt you down just because someone said there was mischief here, I tend to agree.
- renewiltord 9mo agoOh yeah, if one does it it’s probably not a good idea to leave an indelible note saying “this was done by Rene Wiltord living at 1038 John Doe Way, San Francisco, 94112”. If you do that, there’s a 1% chance you might get in trouble.
- digiown 9mo ago4-way stops are terrible in general. They train people to think "I stopped, now I can go", which is dangerous when someone confuses a normal stop for a 4-way stop. It also wastes a good bit of energy.
- c22 9mo agoWeird, I was taught that I can only go after yielding to the right.
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoThat isn’t the rule either, I guess parent made their point. The first person who stops goes next, right away only matters if their is ambiguity in who stopped first.
- arcanemachiner 9mo agoTo your first point, "the rule" is location-dependent. And to your second point, that was obviously (to me, at least) implied.
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoI’ve never seen a four way stop in a region that had traffic on the right can always go regardless of stop time. But I’ve only seen four way stops in a few countries.
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- arcanemachiner 9mo agoThe implication from the comment was (had to be) that you yield to the right if both cars stop at the same time.
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- drivebyhooting 9mo agoDon’t use people’s names as a slur.
- reaperducer 9mo agoMan up, Nancy.