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Russian and China are already getting rid of Microsoft.
by miohtama 9mo ago
Russian and China are already getting rid of Microsoft.
- UltraSane 9mo agoAWS in China doesn't have KMS
- myroon5 9mo agohttps://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/06/aws-kms-now-available-aws-china-beijing-sinnet-and-aws-china-ningxia-nwcd/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/06/aws-kms-n... https://www.amazonaws.cn/en/about-aws/regional-product-services/ https://www.amazonaws.cn/en/about-aws/regional-product-servi...
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- UltraSane 9mo agoThat isn't the same KMS that everyone else uses. It is approved by the CCP so has a backdoor.
- locknitpicker 9mo ago> Russian and China are already getting rid of Microsoft. I don't know what you mean by China "getting rid of Microsoft" in the context of cloud providers. I mean, Azure is already present in China's internet, and just like any cloud provider present in China it's presence is a partnership with local cloud providers. Russia is getting rid of Microsoft not because it has a choice. They are subjected to sanctions due to their invasion of Ukraine, and that essentially cut their access to all tech services. By that measuring stick, Russia is also getting rid of Boeing and Airbus.
- ivan_gammel 9mo agoThe most interesting part is that they do not rely on Western software solutions (Russia still needs hardware, China may reach full autonomy soon enough). If they could do it relatively quickly, EU can do it too. And EU now has exactly the same incentives.
- Zigurd 9mo agoTrue but obv. Only lunatics would use a Russian cloud service. The interesting part is whether and what extent China is different. Also, why Europe should start treating us like Russians.
- throwaway902984 9mo agoAre you asking a rhetorical question or making a statement?
- Zigurd 9mo agoAmbiguity is a thing.
- throwaway902984 9mo agoI was asking for the other commenters, to clear that up.
- ericmay 9mo ago> The interesting part is whether and what extent China is different Much worse for the EU, both strategically and economically. You’ll be able to buy Chinese services and give them your data and money, but you won’t be able to operate in their market. Germany is feeling the pain there. [1] Strategically they’re a Russian ally and are actively supporting Russia’s war against Ukraine and further aims against the EU. Something like Russia -> China -> US as worst to least worst partners. The EU should invest in technical and military capabilities and divest from reliance on other countries and echos the US American position very closely. [1] For example https://www.autoblog.com/features/germanys-auto-industry-is-facing-decline-heres-why https://www.autoblog.com/features/germanys-auto-industry-is-...
- kaffekaka 9mo ago[flagged]
- philipallstar 9mo ago
- computerthings 9mo ago[dead]
- tosapple 9mo agoWhile they ditch Microsoft, Amazon and Oracle: we still use Linux, Sel4, ASML and ARM. There's lots of interesting stuff to watch out for.
- mikeyouse 9mo agoIsn’t Sel4 Australian?
- christophilus 9mo agoAll of the things OP mentioned are non-US tech. I think the OP was speaking from a US perspective, though it’s not clear.
- krzyk 9mo agoWhat's wrong in using Linux. It is an open source project with origins in Finland and still lead by a Fin.
- woodson 9mo ago…who lives in Oregon, in the US.
- amanaplanacanal 9mo agoHey, we'd break away if we could.
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- tempsaasexample 9mo agoI spend a month in Oregon every year mushroom hunting and elk hunting. Once you're away from a few key cities, Oregonians are more conservative and hardcore than even central Californians. I think you underestimate your state if you think they're anti American.