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Ok, I’ll give you Rocket League. That’s an entirely new spin on a genre I didn’t see coming. The rest are just RPGs or platformers you like. Good games, but not
by reactordev 9mo ago
Ok, I’ll give you Rocket League. That’s an entirely new spin on a genre I didn’t see coming. The rest are just RPGs or platformers you like. Good games, but not innovative. Yes, some new franchises have been born and some successful indie titles have been launched but most of the market share in the games industry is held by the top 5.
Yes, I have over 1,000 games in my Steam library going back to 1999. I engage in most games that make the top 500 and have so since I was a teenager making games myself.
- mietek 9mo agoSo, is Outer Wilds a RPG or a platformer?
- reactordev 9mo agoOpen world game but also a mystery game as we’re a couple others mentioned above. Those go back to Carmen San Diego and Sherlock homes series. Open World, we’ve seen plenty of those.
- gambiting 9mo agoWell, nothing new has been invented since checkers, if you really think about it hard enough and reduce everything to a few buckets of games that everything can fit neatly into, then everything is just a mystery game or just open world or just a platformer. Again, I have a feeling like you're just looking at it mechanically and not how these elements work together to produce a game that is larger than just the sum of its parts. Outer Wilds has puzzles and open world and mystery element to it - and all of those have been done before. But has anyone else combined them this way to produce a game with this narrative? No, I don't believe so(happy to be proven wrong, as always). Like the other commenter said - I hope I don't become jaded like this about video games, it still brings me joy to see how every new game twists the known formula a little bit more and in new and exciting ways, I believe there are several nieches where we haven't seen the game of that genre yet and I can't wait to see it emerge and how and who is going to do it.
- reactordev 9mo agoHave other games put together open world and mystery? Yes. I have a feeling you haven’t played those games otherwise you’d see the similarities. Yes, I am ABSOLUTELY looking at the mechanics of the game. I’m also looking for innovation. Take something someone tried (maybe it was a big part of their design) and make a full blown out version of it. Pushing the genre in either a new direction or opening one up. Outer wilds did neither. Not to say it wasn’t a good game. That’s not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying outside of those that played it, it will be forgotten. It changed nothing. It came, it endeared, it left.
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- soulofmischief 9mo agoHave you played Outer Wilds though? I'd finished a playthrough of RDR2 in 2022 and thought I was done with gaming forever, that nothing would ever be able to touch that level of experience again. I stopped playing for months, completely having lost interest. Then I discovered Outer Wilds, went in completely blind, played in VR, and had one of the most engaging experiences of my life. It's a true gamer's game.
- reactordev 9mo ago>”Have you played Outer Wilds though?” Did my review not tell you that I had?
- soulofmischief 9mo agoI somehow completely glossed over those two sentences, sorry!
- Rohansi 8mo agoComparing Outer Wilds to Sherlock Holmes is way too big of a stretch for me. There are mysteries in both, yes, but it's the mystery of the (game's) universe vs. crimes. I'm curious if you think this way about movies/TV too. It's very strange to me to just dilute things down to their genre(s) and then expect innovation to come out as new genres.
- TimorousBestie 9mo agoI hope I never become this jaded and cynical about video games.
- reactordev 9mo agoKeep playing them for 20 years :D
- Novosell 9mo agoI've been playing games since I could hold a controller basically, so 26-ish years, and I think modern gaming is phenomenal. I feel sad for you, but it is what it is. Just your loss in the end.
- reactordev 9mo agoModern gaming is a micro transaction DLC hellscape. Are you serious? Are they fun? Yes, they are designed to be addictive. So you spend money on pixels.
- charcircuit 9mo agoWhat’s wrong with paying for entertainment?
- reactordev 9mo agoNothing, that’s why I bought the game. Don’t shake me down for more money because you couldn’t forecast.
- charcircuit 9mo agoMicrotransactions are part of the forecast of revenue the game will make.
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- gambiting 9mo ago>>Good games, but not innovative Calling outer wilds or Clair Obscur "not innovative" just tells me you haven't played these games from start to finish, and I don't mean any offence saying this. Unless you mean just mechanically?
- reactordev 9mo agoI have played both. I stand by my statement.
- YurgenJurgensen 8mo agoWhat’s innovative about Clair Obscur? Its battle mechanics are clearly heavily inspired by Paper Mario, Shadow Hearts, and Legend of Dragoon, it inherits a bunch of mid-level design stuff from Dark Souls, and its story structure is extremely standard, also borrows a lot of worldbuilding from Dark Souls with a hint of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Kingdom Hearts. It’s competent, somewhat refreshing and not actively consumer-hostile, and it’s a sign of how bad things have gotten that that’s all it takes to be heaped with praise.
- gambiting 8mo agoOh don't get me wrong - mechanically I actually think it's boring as hell, which is why I asked OP if he only talks about mechanics. But I will say that in terms of story and world building it's exceptional - so many games nowadays are just some kind of variation on a standard fantasy/scifi trope, CO has a completely "fresh" repertoir of enemies and locations that feel new, and I didn't have any clue where the story was going until act 3 - I think its exploration of grief and the ability to make you bond with characters while not unique, it's definitely up there with the best video games ever made(imho). >>also borrows a lot of worldbuilding from Dark Souls I see that comparison a lot and I don't see it, and I've played every From Soft game from start to finish. Maybe the painted world from DS3 is sorta-kinda similar, but not really?
- anyfoo 9mo agoSo Dark Souls is just another RPG, and not innovative?
- throwaway173738 9mo agoIt was the first rpg I played where there was so much attention paid to continuity you could see all the other areas in the skybox.
- anthk 9mo agoInnovative? Check Blade/Severance.
- YurgenJurgensen 8mo agoThat’s not a great example to pick, given that Demons Souls exists.
- reactordev 8mo agoAnd that was a successor to Kings Field… These kids don’t know.
- rpdillon 9mo agoWhat did you think after you got into room 46 of Blue Prince?