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As every company should, when they have a success. Are they also as transparent about their failures?
by direwolf20 9mo ago
As every company should, when they have a success. Are they also as transparent about their failures?
- voidUpdate 9mo agoIs this a success? There was still an incident. I'd argue this was them being transparent about a failure
- direwolf20 9mo agoThey handled an unpredictable emergency situation better than any human driver.
- mitthrowaway2 9mo agoWas it unpredictable? They drove past a blind corner (parked SUV) in a school zone. I'm constantly slowing down in these situations as I expect someone might run out at any second. Waymo seemed to default to the view that if it can't see anyone then nobody is there.
- TeMPOraL 9mo agoBeing transparent about such incidents is also what stops them from potentially becoming a business/industry-killing failures. They're doing the right thing here, but they also surely realize how much worse it would be if they tried to deny or downplay it.
- xnx 9mo ago> they also surely realize how much worse it would be if they tried to deny or downplay it. Indeed. Waymo is a much more thoughtful and responsible company than Cruise, Uber, or Tesla. "Cruise admits to criminal cover-up of pedestrian dragging in SF, will pay $500K penalty" https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/cruise-fine-criminal-cover-up-19920343.php https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/cruise-fine-criminal-cov...
- BugsJustFindMe 9mo agoWell, as a comparison, we know that Tesla has failed to report to NHTSA any collisions that didn't deploy the airbag.
- red75prime 9mo agoTesla report ids from SGO-2021-01_Incident_Reports_ADAS.csv with no or unknown airbag deployment status: 13781-13330, 13781-13319, 13781-13299, 13781-13208, 13781-8843, 13781-13149, 13781-13103, 13781-13070, 13781-13052... and more
- dylan604 9mo agoHow is hitting a child not a failure? And actually, how can you call this a success? Do you think this was a GTA side mission?
- direwolf20 9mo agoImmediately hitting the brakes when a child suddenly appears in front of you, instead of waiting 500ms like a human, and thereby hitting the child at a speed of 6 instead of 14 is a success. What else to you expect them to do, only run on grade–separated areas where children can't access? Blare sirens so children get scared away from roads? Shouldn't human–driven cars do the same thing then?
- recursive 9mo agoI don't know the implementation details, but success would be not hitting pedestrians. You have some interesting ideas on how to achieve that but there might be other ways, I don't know.
- gruez 9mo ago>I don't know the implementation details, but success would be not hitting pedestrians. So by that logic, if we cured cancer but the treatment came with terrible side effects it wouldn't be considered a "success"? Does everything have to perfect to be a success?
- autoexec 9mo agoThey've gone to the courts to fight to keep some of their safety data secret https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/28/22906513/waymo-lawsuit-california-dmv-crash-data-foia https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/28/22906513/waymo-lawsuit-ca...