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It's even less expensive! Problem solved. Mr. President, we have successfully axed all H1B positions, as you have wished.

y-curious 9mo ago
I guess we just need the other shoe to drop: punish companies that are based in the US and outsource to India. It’ll happen in time if this trend continues
- juujian 9mo ago
  Amazon has contributed enough to the current administration that I doubt they will face any consequences. Maybe another round of shakedowns and more financial contributions, but they have figured out pretty quickly how to play the game and end up on the good side of the current administration.
  - no_wizard 9mo ago
    Amazon's MGM subsidiary spent 75 million dollars thus far on the Melania Trump documentary that by all accounts, is looking like its going to be a box office bomb. Reportedly, 30 million of that 75 went directly to Melania[0] [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/28/melania-trump-documentary-amazon-release https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/28/melania-trump-d...
  - belter 9mo ago
    https://youtu.be/B1zKWNB2rho?t=230 https://youtu.be/B1zKWNB2rho?t=230
- klipt 9mo ago
  Then the US companies will be outcompeted by more competitive companies located outside the US. Now the US lost the jobs and the workers' income tax and the corporate tax. America cannot eternally capture a disproportionate share of global wealth, even with such rent seeking moves. It's unsustainable. We had a golden age after WW2 when we were the only undamaged industrial economy but that age has ended.
  - Jeslijar 9mo ago
    Pretty much. America is destined for a decline. The billionaires can make money regardless of border by always moving things around and utilizing their expansive resources for any possible loopholes and escape hatches while manipulating public policy.
    - cucumber3732842 9mo ago
      This is reductive and wrong. The billionares make money hand over fist either way. They own the companies. They don't care if the new campus or factory is in China or India. They skim their cut off it's productivity either way. It's your fellow countrymen who are peddling the policies that, at the margin, push those investments overseas.
  - batshit_beaver 9mo ago
    That's what the third shoe is for - aircraft carriers.
  - boogrpants 9mo ago
    It's fiat wealth so... write the ledger however. The majority don't care so long as they have enough food and shelter and healthcare. The whole scoreboard based on bank accounts is all made up wankeroo. Let's just have AI avatars fight for gloating rights; Goku beat Superman on PPV so Japan gets to host the inter dimensional cable world cup! And otherwise keep the biologically essential logistics flowing cause that collapse is when the meat suits will toss aside socialized truths of history and go crazy primate.
    - ghurtado 9mo ago
      > It's fiat wealth so... write the ledger however I'd like to see a serious study about the word "fiat" and whether it has been used to make a single valid economic argument in the last 30 years (auto maker excluded) Just kidding, I know it has not.
      - 9mo ago
- ra7 9mo ago
  If you want American companies to not outsource any jobs AND have full foreign market access, get ready to get market access revoked from places like India. They’ll just incentivize their local companies to compete, and Amazon has plenty of local competition there already. Amazon themselves have experienced in the past how heavy-handed Indian regulators can be. It’s not a zero-sum game anymore. You cannot have only one side (US companies) capture 100% of the value.
  - greenavocado 9mo ago
    > You cannot have only one side (US companies) capture 100% of the value. This is the value prop of the US military
    - deleted 9mo ago
      [deleted]
    - oytis 9mo ago
      It was, at least it worked for Europe, but Trump has seemingly managed to ruin that too.
  - 15155 9mo ago
    > They’ll just incentivize their local companies to compete They already do.
- oytis 9mo ago
  How do you punish them? Have ICE raid their offices? There is already a significant tax benefit for hiring developers domestically.
- alephnerd 9mo ago
  > [p]unish companies that are based in the US and outsource to India. It’ll happen in time if this trend continues They ain't doing squat. The Trump admin is encouraging technology transfer to India as part of Pax Silica [0] and GOP politicans in Ag heavy Purple States like Iowa [1] and Montana [2] are trying to mollify India after China pivoted from American to Brazilian soybeans [3] and India began tariffing pulses/lentils [4]. Additonally, Indian ONG majors like Reliance are negotiating with the Trump admin to purchase Venezuelan oil now that Maduro is in custody [5] and India SOEs have starting creating partnerships with ExxonMobil [6], Chevron [7], and Phillips66 [7] to "drill baby drill". As such, what are you going to do lol - Agriculture and Ag adjacent industries employs 22 million Americans [8] and the Energy sector employs 7 million Americans [9] mostly in Red and Purple states. Software only employs around 2 million Americans [10] in either Blue states or Blue pockets of Red States. [0] - https://x.com/USAmbIndia/status/2010718052992618815 https://x.com/USAmbIndia/status/2010718052992618815 [1] - https://governor.iowa.gov/press-release/2025-09-07/gov-reynolds-and-iowa-delegates-return-india-trade-and-investment-mission https://governor.iowa.gov/press-release/2025-09-07/gov-reyno... [2] - https://www.daines.senate.gov/2026/01/20/daines-travels-to-india-to-advocate-for-montanas-pulse-crops-and-reaffirm-u-s-india-strategic-partnership/ https://www.daines.senate.gov/2026/01/20/daines-travels-to-i... [3] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-favour-brazilian-soybean-imports-h1-despite-renewed-us-inflows-2026-01-26/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-favour-brazilian-s... [4] - https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cramer-daines-urge-president-trump-to-secure-favorable-pulse-crop-trade-deal-with-india https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cramer-dai... [5] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-reliance-talks-us-permit-buy-venezuelan-oil-sources-say-2026-01-09/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-reliance-talk... [6] - https://www.livemint.com/companies/ongc-exxonmobil-collaboration-india-hydrocarbon-block-auctions/amp-11769614641193.html https://www.livemint.com/companies/ongc-exxonmobil-collabora... [7] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chevron-phillips-66-total-win-indias-first-tender-buy-us-lpg-sources-say-2025-11-14/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chevron-phillips-66-... [8] - https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detail?chartId=58282 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-d... [9] - https://usafacts.org/articles/renewable-energy-jobs-grew-in-2020-while-fossil-fuel-jobs-dropped/ https://usafacts.org/articles/renewable-energy-jobs-grew-in-... [10] - https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...
boelboel 9mo ago
Fire h1b positions, make them leave the US and rehire them back in their home country. They can train their new co-workers. I'm not serious but I'm sure some people on H1B have had similar happen. From a business POV this would be an ideal situation.

y-curious 9mo ago

I guess we just need the other shoe to drop: punish companies that are based in the US and outsource to India. It’ll happen in time if this trend continues

juujian 9mo ago
Amazon has contributed enough to the current administration that I doubt they will face any consequences. Maybe another round of shakedowns and more financial contributions, but they have figured out pretty quickly how to play the game and end up on the good side of the current administration.
- no_wizard 9mo ago
  Amazon's MGM subsidiary spent 75 million dollars thus far on the Melania Trump documentary that by all accounts, is looking like its going to be a box office bomb. Reportedly, 30 million of that 75 went directly to Melania[0] [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/28/melania-trump-documentary-amazon-release https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/jan/28/melania-trump-d...
- belter 9mo ago
  https://youtu.be/B1zKWNB2rho?t=230 https://youtu.be/B1zKWNB2rho?t=230
klipt 9mo ago
Then the US companies will be outcompeted by more competitive companies located outside the US. Now the US lost the jobs and the workers' income tax and the corporate tax. America cannot eternally capture a disproportionate share of global wealth, even with such rent seeking moves. It's unsustainable. We had a golden age after WW2 when we were the only undamaged industrial economy but that age has ended.
- Jeslijar 9mo ago
  Pretty much. America is destined for a decline. The billionaires can make money regardless of border by always moving things around and utilizing their expansive resources for any possible loopholes and escape hatches while manipulating public policy.
  - cucumber3732842 9mo ago
    This is reductive and wrong. The billionares make money hand over fist either way. They own the companies. They don't care if the new campus or factory is in China or India. They skim their cut off it's productivity either way. It's your fellow countrymen who are peddling the policies that, at the margin, push those investments overseas.
- batshit_beaver 9mo ago
  That's what the third shoe is for - aircraft carriers.
- boogrpants 9mo ago
  It's fiat wealth so... write the ledger however. The majority don't care so long as they have enough food and shelter and healthcare. The whole scoreboard based on bank accounts is all made up wankeroo. Let's just have AI avatars fight for gloating rights; Goku beat Superman on PPV so Japan gets to host the inter dimensional cable world cup! And otherwise keep the biologically essential logistics flowing cause that collapse is when the meat suits will toss aside socialized truths of history and go crazy primate.
  - ghurtado 9mo ago
    > It's fiat wealth so... write the ledger however I'd like to see a serious study about the word "fiat" and whether it has been used to make a single valid economic argument in the last 30 years (auto maker excluded) Just kidding, I know it has not.
    - 9mo ago
ra7 9mo ago
If you want American companies to not outsource any jobs AND have full foreign market access, get ready to get market access revoked from places like India. They’ll just incentivize their local companies to compete, and Amazon has plenty of local competition there already. Amazon themselves have experienced in the past how heavy-handed Indian regulators can be. It’s not a zero-sum game anymore. You cannot have only one side (US companies) capture 100% of the value.
- greenavocado 9mo ago
  > You cannot have only one side (US companies) capture 100% of the value. This is the value prop of the US military
  - deleted 9mo ago
    [deleted]
  - oytis 9mo ago
    It was, at least it worked for Europe, but Trump has seemingly managed to ruin that too.
- 15155 9mo ago
  > They’ll just incentivize their local companies to compete They already do.
oytis 9mo ago
How do you punish them? Have ICE raid their offices? There is already a significant tax benefit for hiring developers domestically.
alephnerd 9mo ago
> [p]unish companies that are based in the US and outsource to India. It’ll happen in time if this trend continues They ain't doing squat. The Trump admin is encouraging technology transfer to India as part of Pax Silica [0] and GOP politicans in Ag heavy Purple States like Iowa [1] and Montana [2] are trying to mollify India after China pivoted from American to Brazilian soybeans [3] and India began tariffing pulses/lentils [4]. Additonally, Indian ONG majors like Reliance are negotiating with the Trump admin to purchase Venezuelan oil now that Maduro is in custody [5] and India SOEs have starting creating partnerships with ExxonMobil [6], Chevron [7], and Phillips66 [7] to "drill baby drill". As such, what are you going to do lol - Agriculture and Ag adjacent industries employs 22 million Americans [8] and the Energy sector employs 7 million Americans [9] mostly in Red and Purple states. Software only employs around 2 million Americans [10] in either Blue states or Blue pockets of Red States. [0] - https://x.com/USAmbIndia/status/2010718052992618815 https://x.com/USAmbIndia/status/2010718052992618815 [1] - https://governor.iowa.gov/press-release/2025-09-07/gov-reynolds-and-iowa-delegates-return-india-trade-and-investment-mission https://governor.iowa.gov/press-release/2025-09-07/gov-reyno... [2] - https://www.daines.senate.gov/2026/01/20/daines-travels-to-india-to-advocate-for-montanas-pulse-crops-and-reaffirm-u-s-india-strategic-partnership/ https://www.daines.senate.gov/2026/01/20/daines-travels-to-i... [3] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-favour-brazilian-soybean-imports-h1-despite-renewed-us-inflows-2026-01-26/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-favour-brazilian-s... [4] - https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cramer-daines-urge-president-trump-to-secure-favorable-pulse-crop-trade-deal-with-india https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cramer-dai... [5] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-reliance-talks-us-permit-buy-venezuelan-oil-sources-say-2026-01-09/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-reliance-talk... [6] - https://www.livemint.com/companies/ongc-exxonmobil-collaboration-india-hydrocarbon-block-auctions/amp-11769614641193.html https://www.livemint.com/companies/ongc-exxonmobil-collabora... [7] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chevron-phillips-66-total-win-indias-first-tender-buy-us-lpg-sources-say-2025-11-14/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chevron-phillips-66-... [8] - https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detail?chartId=58282 https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-d... [9] - https://usafacts.org/articles/renewable-energy-jobs-grew-in-2020-while-fossil-fuel-jobs-dropped/ https://usafacts.org/articles/renewable-energy-jobs-grew-in-... [10] - https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...

boelboel 9mo ago

Fire h1b positions, make them leave the US and rehire them back in their home country. They can train their new co-workers. I'm not serious but I'm sure some people on H1B have had similar happen. From a business POV this would be an ideal situation.