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TeraWave Satellite Communications Network
https://www.blueorigin.com/terawave https://www.blueorigin.com/terawave
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/blue-origin-we-want-to-have-a-megaconstellation-too/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/blue-origin-we-want-to...
- 0xbeefcab 9mo agoInteresting there is an optical networking option for end users (claims ~6TBps). Maybe a really dumb question, but how would the end user's ground station maintain connectivity during cloudy weather? Do they have cloud-penetrating lasers from the MEO satellites? Would that interfere with aircraft, astronomy tools, etc? Some short googling says they have lasers that clear a path for a data carrying beam, but that seems wasteful/infeasible for commercial uses
- miyuru 9mo agoSome info from NASA optical communication page. "Even Earth’s atmosphere interferes with optical communications. Clouds and mist can interrupt a laser. A solution to this is building multiple ground stations, which are telescopes on Earth that receive infrared waves. If it’s cloudy at one station, the waves can be redirected to a different ground station. With more ground stations, the network can be more flexible during bad weather. SCaN is also investigating multiple approaches, like Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking and satellite arrays to help deal with challenges derived from atmospheric means." https://www.nasa.gov/technology/space-comms/optical-communications-overview/ https://www.nasa.gov/technology/space-comms/optical-communic... Some more info on Optical Communications for Satellites: https://www.kiss.caltech.edu/workshops/optcomm/presentations/Sburlan.pdf https://www.kiss.caltech.edu/workshops/optcomm/presentations...
- dboreham 9mo agoSo it'll never work in Scotland.
- dylan604 9mo agoSeems like reusing some of Star Wars research could be used as well where the beam is constantly adjusted with independent mirrors to keep the beam coherent through the atmosphere. Also learned was the beam itself starts to distort the atmosphere requiring even more adjustments.
- themafia 9mo agoWouldn't the angle of the offset matter? It seems like it would make scattering worse to be off-axis by too far. Which then also means you have to build ground stations in this range yet far enough apart that they experience different weather yet close enough that you can redundantly link all the sites. Aside from government and massive telecommunications companies who would this serve?
- dylan604 9mo ago??? It's just really cool sci-fi tech that I want to see used in something other than DLP chips! JWST and other observatories with segmented primary mirrors kind of use the segment alignment one time to get the correct alignment once. Then there is Adaptive Optics. It's kind of the opposite direction though as they are using a laser to detect the distortion so it can be compensated in the image. From learning about SDI when I was a kid/teen, it's just always been about controlling the laser itself in my mind.
- themafia 9mo agoThe JWST does not have to deal with atmosphere or weather and uses a giant sun shield to keep the internal temperature stable so these alignments have the longevity you need to make the platform work.
- dylan604 9mo agoYes, maybe my comment wasn't clear if you're thinking I thought JWST was using AO. It used segment control for alignment once.
- rlt 9mo agoMultiple ground stations are a fine solution for backhaul, but not most end-user use cases.
- ac29 9mo agoThat 6 Tbps optical link is the max per MEO satellite and they are only planning 128 of those. I imagine the end users of that are pretty much only backhaul customers, individual households/businesses would still need RF or wireline service.
- BrianGragg 9mo agoI think customer speeds is 144 and the 6Tb is their ground links to their stations. That is my take on it at least as its not super clear. I'm curious as to how it works as well.
- daemonologist 9mo agoMy read was that they're going to have 144 Gbps RF for both regular users and their ground station gateways, and 6 Tbps optical for satellite-satellite back haul, but then you can also buy direct ground-MEO access to a back haul link. (Presumably MEO-only because it's hard to maintain the link to a fast-moving LEO satellite?) They don't seem to mention using optical for their own ground stations - maybe too unreliable?
- phillipseamore 9mo agoWith both RF and optical you could see FEC or ARQ being used for something that isn't 100% signal loss. Downlink is optical, uplink is RF. Downlink transmits with FEC, user terminal fixes as many errors as possible, still missing packets so requests ARQ and either gets retransmission on optical or RF.
- everfrustrated 9mo agoMight be better to replace url with the full press release which has actual information https://www.blueorigin.com/news/blue-origin-introduces-terawave-space-based-network-for-global-connectivity https://www.blueorigin.com/news/blue-origin-introduces-teraw... >The TeraWave architecture consists of 5,408 optically interconnected satellites in low Earth orbit (LEO) and medium Earth orbit (MEO).
- perihelions 9mo agoAn even better source, imho: https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/blue-origin-we-want-to-have-a-megaconstellation-too/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/blue-origin-we-want-to... ("Another Jeff Bezos company has announced plans to develop a megaconstellation")
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- dang 9mo agoI'll put that one in the toptext as well - thanks!
- dang 9mo agoOK, we've used that link instead and put the submitted URL (https://www.blueorigin.com/terawave https://www.blueorigin.com/terawave) in the toptext. Thanks!
- agentifysh 9mo agothis seems rather expensive but i get that its not competing with spacex here for consumer market
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- Liftyee 9mo agoGiven that you're worried about EMFs, the amount of power from nearby WiFi routers and cell towers is orders of magnitude more than from these satellites. Starlink etc. use directed spotlight-like beams, so if you're not near a receiver (on the road) then no signal will be present. Why would they waste energy directing the signal anywhere other than where their dishes are? (I personally don't believe in the harms of low power non-ionising radiation sources, but this comment is written in the context of avoiding them.)
- Noaidi 9mo ago> Starlink etc. use directed spotlight-like beams, so if you're not near a receiver (on the road) then no signal will be present. Why would they waste energy directing the signal anywhere other than where their dishes are? You do not know how starlink downlinks work, so I can excuse your comments to ignorance. One person using a starlink antenna requires a beam from a satellite that covers about a 16 mile diameter with the power obviously being highest closest to the antenna. But anyone withing that hexagon will be exposed to mmWave radiation. It is not the "spotlight" you assume it to be. More like a flood light. "Narrow" is subjective in this case. https://redlib.perennialte.ch/r/Starlink/comments/lwfj8v/mapped_out_starlink_cell/ https://redlib.perennialte.ch/r/Starlink/comments/lwfj8v/map... http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=1026762698 http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=1026762698 This papare goes into the beam forming very expertly: https://people.engineering.osu.edu/media/document/2022-10-12/kassas_unveiling_beamforming_strategies_of_starlink_leo_satellites.pdf https://people.engineering.osu.edu/media/document/2022-10-12... And it is not about only the power, it is about the effect. The same power used to push a 400 pound man vs a 40 pound child, you tell me the difference in outcome. As I said, you can be more skeptical and undecided and have a discussion with me, or just think that everyone has the same genetics and sensitivities and go on with your life.
- Liftyee 9mo ago
- gmuslera 9mo agoLatency may play a factor here, I'm not sure at which height they plan to put them.
- everfrustrated 9mo agoAll those AI datacenters in space will need a way to get data to them. Bezos can't even build his first constellation and already planning his second... Possibly the real play here is snapping up more frequency licenses on earth (we need them because we're launching any day now promise). They are the real constraining resource and could be used to keep others out of the market for a while.
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago> They are the real constraining resource and could be used to keep others out of the market for a while I'd love to see a betting market on a unified, global licensing regime lasting for another ten years.
- lxgr 9mo agoIs there even still one today? For example, Starlink's "direct to cell" uses terrestrial-assigned 4G/5G frequencies which are already not globally coordinated. Serving a given market from space already needs a national license anyway, and with today's small and region-dependent spotbeams for both GEO and LEO, I feel like we're going to move to a frequency regime more similar for terrestrial networks than for legacy communications satellites covering a whole hemisphere with one beam.
- grvbck 9mo agoFrom a technical standpoint: amazing achievement, and the tech nerd in me is in awe. But it feels like a lot of people don't understand (or care?) how much these companies are polluting the space. Before the "new wave", in 2010-2015 or so, Earth had around 1500 active satellites in orbit, and another 2,000-2,500 defunct ones. Starlink now has almost 9,500 satellites in orbit, has approvals for 12,000 and long-term plans for up to 42,000. Blue Origin has added 5,500 to that. Amazon plans for 3,000. China has two megaconstellations under construction, for a total of 26,000, and has filed for even larger systems, up to 200,000 satellites. We might be the last generation that is able to watch the stars.
- grvbck 9mo ago(Also, for a frame of reference as to how large these numbers are: the entire gps network operates on 31 satellites.)
- direwolf20 9mo agoHow many causes Kessler syndrome?
- NitpickLawyer 9mo agoAt the altitudes these mega-constellations operate at, kessler syndrome is not a real threat. Even if left unpowered, everything there will naturally re-enter the atmosphere in ~5 years.
- direwolf20 9mo ago5 years of no Starlink is a serious threat, especially to SpaceX.
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago> How many causes Kessler syndrome? Space is huge. Try this trick: the number of satellites in orbit is about the same as the number of planes in the air at any time. (~12,000 [1].) The volume of space from the ground to 50,000 feet is about 200x smaller than the volume from the Karman line to the top of LEO alone (~2,000 km). Put another way, we approach the density of planes in the sky in LEO when there are milliions of satellites in that space alone. Picture what happens if every plane in the sky fell to the ground. Now understand that the same thing happening in LEO, while it occurs at higher energy, also occurs in less-occupied space and will eventually (mostly) burn up in the atmosphere. Put another way, you could poof every Starlink simultaneously and while it would be tremendously annoying, most satellites orbiting lower would be able to get out of the way, those that couldn't wouldn't cause much more damage, the whole mess would be avoidable for most and entirely gone within a few years. There are serious problems with space pollution. Catastrophic Kessler cascades that block humans from space, or knock out all of our satellites, aren't one of them. [1] https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/number-of-planes-in-air https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/number-of...
- embedding-shape 9mo agoAssuming all these companies are interested in launching their own constellations of ~10K-100K satellites into L/MEO, how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry?
- m4rtink 9mo agoIf they put their sats low enough (like Starlink already mostly does) any collision debris should be quickly deorbitted by drag, before a cascade can happen.
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago> how many companies could actually do this before cascading collisions starts becoming a real worry? Twenty of them at 100,000 birds each to start approaching the density of planes in the sky [1]. Not around an airport. In all of the sky. Oceans and all. Practically speaking, this is not a pressing concern for our generation. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46711405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46711405
- manacit 9mo agoIt's interesting that people have a hard time visualizing this. The area in Earth's LEO is, definitionally, bigger than the Earth itself. The SEA parking garage fits 12,000 cars in it. Two of those spread over the entire planet would be an imperceptible amount of space. You could drop a pin on a map your entire life and probably never hit one.
- gordonhart 9mo agoWell, this shoots down the argument that Blue Origin is just Amazon's space wing. Strange to see them launching a direct Amazon Leo competitor but now that they have reusable boosters (on paper) it does make more sense for them to control the lion's share of their launch manifest with their own megaconstellation.
- esseph 9mo agoIt's not a Leo competitor, it's a different type of service offering.
- gordonhart 9mo agoFair enough, I was misremembering the higher end of Leo's bandwidth (1Gbps down/400Kbps up). Doesn't really intersect with TeraWave at all
- t1234s 9mo agoLooks like they are using lasers for backhaul down to ground stations. What happens if the beam is obstructed for a brief moment (plane, kite, ufo, etc..)?
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago> What happens if the beam is obstructed for a brief moment (plane, kite, ufo, etc..)? Same as with any dropped packet.
- bhhaskin 9mo agoAnd my guess would be multiple beams for redundancy.
- hbarka 9mo agoLooking forward to TeraWave. We need a minimum of two in critical services. Google and Microsoft and Apple. Anthropic and OpenAI and Gemini.
- mmaunder 9mo agoIt’s like announcing you’re going to sell corn starting a year from now when your competition owns all the land corn is grown on, started selling their corn 6 years ago, and has gotten really good at making it cheaper and producing more, based on real world experience.
- testing22321 9mo agoAnd you’ve only used a super complex corn planting robot twice, and you need to do it thousands of times