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I would kill for a web renaissance to return to this format of webpages, as least as an option. Not only loading improves, but also navigation and accessibility
by Salgat 9mo ago
I would kill for a web renaissance to return to this format of webpages, as least as an option. Not only loading improves, but also navigation and accessibility.
- Someone1234 9mo agoIndeed. That's why, when they finally kill old.reddit, I may legitimately stop using it entirely. They've already banned most of the good apps, forcing the pretty terrible official one.
- MaxikCZ 9mo agoRecently the old reddit szopped working for me even after going to account settings and opting out of new design again (it was already marked as being opt out) across all my devices. Even after manually navigating to old.reddit.com, clicking any link would take me to new again. I had to install special extensions to reroute to old reddit everywhere.
- Centigonal 9mo agoSame thing happened to me, this fixed it: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/1odehgj/is_old_reddit_finally_gone_for_good/nktgagu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/1odehgj/is_old_reddit...
- birdman3131 9mo agoHad that happen a few times but switching the use old reddit box off and back on fixes it.
- bcraven 9mo agoRedReader is a lovely, lightweight Android app for Reddit. Development is slow, but I've been happily using it since RiF was killed.
- Hammershaft 9mo agoNew reddit is a travesty. It feels a satirical mockery of modern webdev
- ceejayoz 9mo agoMy favorite feature is how you click a reply notification and it takes you to a page that doesn’t show the reply half the time.
- ChocolateGod 9mo agoAnd 6 years later it's still as terrible.
- ethbr1 9mo agoI've got a pet theory that old.reddit is actually codified in legal language somewhere as "must always exist." Otherwise, I can't believe Reddit is actually keeping it around out of the goodness in their cold, dead corporate heart.
- yencabulator 9mo agoLet's try this one: Reddit is selling "we'll let your AI training scrape our data" and have lazily implemented it by just pointing at old.reddit.com.
- ethbr1 9mo agoPossibly, but doesn't old.reddit predate the LLM craze?
- yencabulator 9mo agoOh I'm not saying it was created for that. I'm saying that could be why it's still alive.
- xattt 9mo agoCBC News has a lite version of their news site that they tend to promote around times of natural disaster. (1) https://www.cbc.ca/lite/news https://www.cbc.ca/lite/news
- jader201 9mo ago> but also navigation and accessibility Counterpoint, HN is notoriously hard to use on mobile (still better than some, but it's clearly designed for desktop, and not super responsive). But agreed, that's independent of the slim nature of the webpage (which is still possible with a good mobile UX).
- drnick1 9mo ago> Counterpoint, HN is notoriously hard to use on mobile No it's not, it's perfect on Vanadium with the zoom set to 125%. Much better than some bloated Javascript monstrosity.
- Analemma_ 9mo agoIt's very frustrating whenever this topic comes up that people see no middle ground between "the website as it is right now" and "some bloated JavaScript monstrosity". There is lots of room for improvement that would not turn it into "a bloated JavaScript monstrosity". How about bigger touch targets? Half the time when I go to vote on a comment on mobile I vote in the wrong direction and have to undo it. Same goes for using the search feature: I constantly fat-finger the drop-down search options on mobile. Even though I usually prefer mobile websites to apps, most of the time for HN I browse using Octal instead of the website because the website is such a pain. And it wouldn't take very much to make it better, which makes it so annoying that people have knee-jerk anger to the prospect every time the subject comes up.
- amelius 9mo agoMaybe someone can build a service that translates webpages into "reader mode" format, which you can then consume on mobile devices with low bitrates.
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- fooker 9mo agoThis is a pretty promising vector for man in the middle attacks.
- yencabulator 9mo agoSo is Manifest v2 ad blocking and plenty of people are screaming about killing that one. For a proper HN technical-solutions-only response, have the rewrite functionality reside in a WASM module cached locally and run in the browser, with a transparency ledger proving everyone sees the same WASM modules. This way any MitM attempts by the service are reproducible and undeniable.
- fc417fc802 9mo agov2 is not a MitM concern (but it is a malicious code concern). Before quibbling about this consider that if v2 qualifies as a MitM concern then pretty much every other piece of software also does. That isn't in keeping with the spirit of the term. The outrage is threefold, because there is no viable alternative, because it infantilizes users, trampling their agency, and because it clearly serves corporate interests at the expense of the user. As to your proposed solution - the rewriting needs to happen on a separate device in order to avoid pushing extra data across the network. If you're already self hosting that service then there's no need for a transparency ledger.
- yencabulator 9mo agoIt's auto updating JavaScript maintained by some unknown that can rewrite html on any page, how is that not an MitM risk? The html itself is rarely a lot of data, most things in this space remove or resize images etc.
- bigfatkitten 9mo agoIf only we could make that conducive to resume-driven development for web developers.
- nubg 9mo agoOne more realistic option could be to have an "LLM browsing proxy" where you chat with an LLM via text, and it does the browsing and parsing and extracting, with links etc.
- gerad 9mo agolol. It’s called Gemini.
- kevin_thibedeau 9mo agoNoScript gets you part way there.