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So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?
- JoshTriplett 10mo agoI'm surprised that the EFF does not highlight the best option, here: use a VPN to a jurisdiction that doesn't have such ridiculous laws.
- Retr0id 10mo agoIn many cases, using a VPN is a great way to get your account flagged as suspicious.
- iamnothere 10mo agoCare to share more details about this? Which account? What do you mean by “suspicious”? What specific effects does this have? I use a VPN 24/7 on one machine. Zero issues even with banking, although sometimes I have to answer CAPTCHAs.
- selfmodruntime 10mo agoYour VPN provider shares their IP lists publicly. For a lot of website owners, blocking those is a simple way of getting rid of 80% of spam.
- iamnothere 10mo agoAnd yet I don’t get blocked. Curious.
- bhelkey 10mo agoSome sites block or offer a degraded experience for VPN traffic. This happens occasionally when I use Mullvad. Some examples: Imgur loads but does not display any content. USPS's website does not load.
- iamnothere 10mo agoNow that I think about it USPS is the one place I get blocked. Still, it seems like people facing an age gate should be able to circumvent it without much hassle on a regular basis.
- Footprint0521 10mo agoWhat VPN?! Proton literally doesn’t work on anything
- stavros 10mo agoThen more people need to use a VPN!
- kristjank 10mo agoIt might be bad for an activist group to advocate just ignoring the problem into a different jurisdiction.
- paulddraper 10mo agoThey could sell it as "if your IP geolocation is inaccurate, or if the statute does not apply to you." But FWIW VPNs can get flagged for suspicious behavior. YMMV
- SoftTalker 10mo agoNext step: the same government that is demanding the age verification will ban VPNs.
- pc86 10mo agoEveryone seems to forget that using VPNs to violate your local laws gives lots of good ammo to the authoritarians that want to ban VPNs. The answer isn't to use a VPN to get around it (and thus give fodder to your enemies) but to change the law.
- luke727 10mo agoWhile I agree with this in spirit, here in the UK both major parties along with the public at large generally support these types of laws.
- JoshTriplett 10mo agoTwo of the major parties support it, but it's not entirely obvious how much public support there is; it's not most people's top issue, and it's easy to make polls say what you want depending on the question you ask. You'd get different answers if, for instance, you ask "do you want to have to show ID or submit a picture of your face in order to access many sites on the Internet".
- terminalshort 10mo agoThe entire concept of public support breaks down when the majority of the public doesn't actually know what a VPN is.
- luke727 10mo agoI'm not sure there'd be much of a difference because the British people are broadly speaking a rather paternalistic society.
- SoftTalker 10mo agoI would guess the vast majority of parents support these laws. They are disgusted with the social media platforms who shrug and pretend they are just dumb pipes when it comes to filth, predators, and harmful content, while at the same time keeping users engaged with addictive algorithms and tracking everything every user does and knowing everything about them.
- cedws 10mo agoThe days are numbered on this technique working. After enough countries enact their own age verification laws tech companies will just make that the global default policy, and I'm sure the opportunity to harvest user data will not be left to waste. Many sites already block and throttle VPNs. When that day comes I'll stop casually using the internet or search for the underground alternative.
- omoikane 10mo agoI think EFF does not recommend for or against VPN in general because it's not always a clear win, depending on the VPN and the use case. https://ssd.eff.org/module/choosing-vpn-thats-right-you https://ssd.eff.org/module/choosing-vpn-thats-right-you
- hamdingers 10mo ago"Give up" is not the best option. Certainly not from the EFF's perspective.
- JoshTriplett 10mo agoI mean, the best option is to fight this legislation, and AIUI they're doing that too. But this article is not about that, it's about how to minimize the harm if you encounter it.
- selfmodruntime 10mo agoVPNs are increasingly useless, with Cloudflare in front of 80% of the public net. I always wonder if people giving this advice try it themselves, most major sites are unusable with a common VPN provider.
- marssaxman 10mo agoI have never clicked "accept" on a cookie banner, as a matter of principle; I zap them away with uBlock Origin. Should the plague of age verification reach my jurisdiction, I'm sure I will handle it in like fashion.
- antonvs 10mo agoThe difference is that the cookie banner is not a gate. uBlock Origin is unlikely to be able to satisfy a website about your age without submitting the info that the site expects. (Assuming the age check has any teeth at all.) You're unlikely to be able to continue as usual if these kinds of measures become ubiquitous.
- RankingMember 10mo agoZapping only works if the site lets you continue/pull content without verification.
- marssaxman 10mo agoI expect I'll need to employ some other technical means of circumvention, but the principle of refusing to engage with the thing on its own terms will remain the same.
- kube-system 10mo agoThese things are integrated into the authentication systems of these services. They aren't implemented client side. Refusing to engage with them means you cannot use the service.
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- BanAntiVaxxers 10mo agoThen it wasn't meant to be. Let it go.
- jimbob45 10mo agoIs there a throwaway identity that people are using? A dead person unchecked in Mississippi somewhere? Like every teen in America using the same identity like everyone's extended family does with their uncle's Netflix account? I don't want to google it because I don't want to be put on a list but I also feel somewhat confident that this is being done. Apparently, HN feels safe to ask questions like that for me.
- bee_rider 10mo agoThat’s an interesting question. Actually, a follow up. PII leaks are so common, I guess there must be millions of identities out there up for grabs. This makes me wonder: we’ve got various jurisdictions where sites are legally required to verify the age of users. And everybody (including the people running these sites) knows that tons of identities are out there on the internet waiting to be used. How does a site do due diligence in this context? I guess just asking for a scan of somebody’s easily fabricated ID shouldn’t be sufficient legal cover…
- kube-system 10mo agoThese ID laws typically require a solution to be "commercially practical" or similar. The standard is not "impenetrable and impossible to circumvent" That's why some of them don't even ask for ID but just guess the age based on appearance. That's good enough per the law, usually.
- everyday7732 10mo agoIt would probably flag that multiple people are using the same photo or same persons name/ id, but I expect you could get away with doing using someone known to you. iirc the reason people are using game screenshots is because it's not going to match any image that the recogniser has seen before. Use tor for the things you don't want to google and have associated with you.
- shiandow 10mo agoLast time I tried I could find a photo ID just with a basic image search. It is an unavoidable consequence of teaching people that scanning an ID is not utterly insane. Ironically there was no way to report the image anonymously to the service hosting it.
- cons0le 10mo ago>If Google can guess your age, you may never even see an age verification screen. Your Google account is typically connected to your YouTube account, so if (like mine) your YouTube account is old enough to vote, you may not need to verify your Google account at all. This has been proven false a bunch of times, at least if the 1000s of people complaining online about it are to be believed. My google account is definitely old enough to vote, but I get the verification popup all the time on YouTube. I think the truth is, they just want your face. The financial incentive is to get as much data as possible so they can hand it to 3rd parties. I don't believe for a second that these social networks aren't selling both the data and the meta data.
- jama211 10mo agoThey definitely already have your face though…
- zahlman 10mo agoFrom where? Not everyone even puts selfies on the Internet.
- pixl97 10mo agoHonestly, it's probably already happening, but I would not be surprised if retail stores that check your ID also have cameras snaping your face and selling that to data brokers. Anything you can image that is bad with privacy, figure what is occurring is far worse.
- jama211 9mo agoIf you’re 99.9% of people this isn’t even a reasonable question to ask because the answer is so obvious. If you’re the final 0.01%, they still will have it, just from when you last went anywhere with surveillance ever.
- ambicapter 10mo agoThe more examples in various situations they can get, the higher their accuracy.
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- irusensei 10mo agoFace scan: download and install Gary's mod.
- Retr0id 10mo agoThere were some amusing headlines a while back about Discord's verification being fooled with game screenshots. Does anyone know if that's still the case?
- everyday7732 10mo agosaw a recent screenshot of someone doing it yesterday, so I think it still is a thing.
- dlcarrier 10mo agoHow well does the selfie test detect AI-generated photos? That seems easy to bypass, especially if you copy the metadata over from a real photo.
- kube-system 10mo agoThe ones I have used do not accept photos, they require real-time video with the front-facing camera and they prompt you to move your head to face different directions on command. Not impossible to attack, I'm certain, but it's tougher than simply uploading a photo.
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- pzo 10mo agoon desktops you can have virtual camera, if you can generate video fast enough wen AI you can ask to edit it according to instructions. Definitely tougher but I'm sure someone will offer services or software like that.
- shevy-java 10mo agoStates need to stop sniffing for age really. This is age discrimination.
- kube-system 10mo agoBasically every government on the planet has laws that apply specifically to children. The term "age discrimination" typically refers to disadvantaging someone for being of old age.
- torcete 10mo agoI thought the article was about finding a job when you reach a certain age, which is my problem.
- nocman 10mo agoYeah, I didn't notice where the article was located at first, and I thought that's what it was going to be about also.
- ryandrake 10mo agoMy kid has recently just quit playing Roblox because of the sketchy facial age check process. She said that her and all her friends know not to ever upload a picture of themselves to the Internet (good job, fellow Other Parents!!) so they're either moving on to other games or just downloading stock photos of people from the internet and uploading those (which apparently works). What a total joke. These companies need to stop normalizing the sharing of personal private photos. It's literally the opposite direction from good Internet hygiene, especially for kids!
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- polski-g 10mo agoWhat evidence led you to believe this, when controlling for heritability?
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- irusensei 10mo agoI'm trying to find the contact for the does-not-imply-causation dept but I think I lost my slashdot account in 2004.
- gjsman-1000 10mo agoNobody studying this issue, from the UK government to independent researchers to NGOs, says this anymore. PornHub in legal filings never uses this argument, but instead focuses on rights to expression rather than dispute the claim. The causation is clear, documented, proven. Increased pornography exposure with dangerous behaviors, causes those dangerous behaviors to be repeated, even when participants are warned of the risk. At this point, denial is like saying flat earth has merit.
- AndyMcConachie 10mo agoWhy can't the EFF tell people to lie? Because if you can get away with it, lying is almost always your best option. Unless there are actual real world consequences to lying like you may anger the police. And maybe consider using a VPN.
- HotGarbage 10mo agoFor real. This should be an article about circumvention, not compliance.
- nottorp 10mo agoThat's not EFFs job, just ask your kids how they circumvent age gates for that :)
- kube-system 10mo agoI'd imagine it is because several of the obvious options for "lying" here may violate criminal law. And also because the EFF is an civil liberties advocacy group, they want to change the law, not circumvent it.
- izzydata 10mo agoIf my options are upload a picture of myself for Google to monetize through ads or not use Google / Youtube then I will be moving on regardless of the inconvenience to myself.
- mlinster 10mo agoI think that age verification is important. While its not perfect, it is one tool to help protect kids.
- unglaublich 10mo agoAgainst what? How much struggle and pain are we actually seeing in the world because children have unrestricted internet access?
- anthk 10mo agoCall your ISP and ban any NSFW/NSFL access by DNS, both in your children's phones and your home connection. Problem solved.
- drnick1 10mo agoThis does not work, browsers like Firefox don't even always use the system DNS by default.
- pixl97 10mo agoAh, blocking porn from your devices does not work. But age gating porn in your country somehow fixes the fucking global internet.... Please explain that too me. I'm sorry for getting a little steamed here, but I have to wonder if you've put any thought into what you're asking for in the name of kids safety. And worse, if you think it will work globally what are you going to do when Saudi Arabia wants anything they don't like banned in the US, for example.
- graemep 10mo agoSo block IPs to which blocked domains resolve at the router. It should not be that difficult to implement.
- owisd 10mo agoThen they scrape together their pocket money and walk into a pawn shop and hand over the cash for a second hand smartphone. Plenty of free WiFi around.
- jmclnx 10mo ago>should I continue to use this service if I have to verify my age? Simple answer, never accept this If everyone selected "cancel" you can be sure these sites will stop age banning, they wan $ more than anything else. If a site asks me one question about me, I stop using if.
- cloudfudge 10mo agoThis makes me wonder if there's a business case for a privacy-preserving identity service which does age verification. Say you have a strong identity provider that you have proven your age to. Just as the 3rd party site could use SSO login from your identity provider, perhaps the identity provider could provide signed evidence to the 3rd party site that asserts "I have verified that this person is age X" but not divulge their identity. Sidestep the privacy issue and just give the 3rd party site what they need to shield them from liability.
- dakiol 10mo agoThe question is: why would services like Google and others want to use such privacy-preserving identity solutions? They wouldn't gain anything from a non-invasive, user-friendly system, so I don't think they'd use it. They want more data, so they are going for it.
- cloudfudge 10mo agoI was thinking someone like Auth0 might want to offer it. They are not in the business of invasive user tracking but are in the business of trust.
- tzs 10mo agoConsidering that Google is releasing open source software they developed to facilitate such systems [1], apparently they are OK with the idea. It could simply be that they realize that online age verification becoming required for some online activities is inevitable for the same reasons age checks are required for some non-online activities, and when that comes to pass they want to be able to do in a way that doesn't expose them to too much risk. Yes, Google loves data but that doesn't mean they don't care about risk. The data they would from some of the age verification methods probably wouldn't improve their ability to advertise much but would cause a lot of problems if leaked. Another possibility might be that have no choice. My understanding is that in the EU member states that enact online age verification laws will have to require that verification can be done using the privacy-preserving system that the EU Digital Identity Wallet will support. Sites will be able to use other methods too (as long as the don't violate GDPR) so they could support something that gives them more information for advertising, but they will still have to support the privacy-preserving option. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44457390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44457390
- dakiol 10mo agoI’ve noticed that many people struggle to simply let things go. Take a hypothetical case where HN requires ID verification. I'd just stop using HN, even if that meant giving up checking tech news. Sometimes things end, and that's fine. I used to watch good soccer matches on public TV. When services like DAZN appeared, only one major match was available each weekend on public TV. Later, none were free to watch unless you subscribed to a private channel. I didn't want to do that, so I stopped watching soccer. Now I only follow big tournaments like the World cup, which still air on public TV (once every 4 years). Sometimes you just have to let things go
- zackmorris 10mo agoFunny, I'm the opposite. Since information wants to be free, and storage/compute get more affordable every year, then really everything ever posted on the web should be mirrored somewhere, like Neocities. I grew up in the 80s when office software and desktop publishing were popular. Arguably MS Access, FileMaker and HyperCard were more advanced in some ways than anything today. There was a feeling of self-reliance before the internet that seems to have been lost. To me, there appears to be very little actual logic in most websites, apps and even games. They're all about surveillance capitalism now. Now that AI is here, I hope that hobbyists begin openly copying websites and apps. All of them. Use them as templates and to automate building integration tests. Whatever ranking algorithm that HN uses, or at least the part(s) they haven't disclosed, should be straightforward to reverse engineer from the data. That plants a little seed in the back of every oligopoly's psyche that ensh@ttification is no longer an option.
- terminalshort 10mo agoIf "information wants to be free," doesn't that cut both ways? It applies equally to the personal data that I don't want to upload to an age gate as it does to the information that people want to keep behind an age gate.
- irishcoffee 10mo agoOne persons age is a data point. Everyone’s age is information. Data doesn’t want to be free.
- miki123211 10mo ago> Even though there’s no way to implement mandated age gates in a way that fully protects speech and privacy rights I think the EFF would have more success spreading their message if they didn't outright lie in their blog posts. While cryptographic digital ID schemes have their problems (which they address below), they do fully protect privacy rights. So do extremely simple systems like selling age-verification scratchcards in grocery stores, with the same age restrictions as cigarettes or alcohol.
- autoexec 10mo ago> So do extremely simple systems like selling age-verification scratchcards in grocery stores Which stores sell age-verification scratchcards? How do you make sure they can't be traced back to the person who paid for them or where they were purchased from? How would a website know the person using the card is the same person who paid for them? It may be a simple system, but it still sounds ineffective, dangerous, and unnecessary.
- triceratops 10mo ago> Which stores sell age-verification scratchcards? Stores that sell other age-restricted products. > How do you make sure they can't be traced back to the person who paid for them How would they be traced? Pay cash. I've never had my ID scanned or recorded when I buy alcohol. And now I look old enough that I don't even have to show ID. If someone can trace the store they're bought from and you're that paranoid, rotate between stores. Buy them from a third-party. Drive to another state and buy them there. So many options. > How would a website know the person using the card is the same person who paid for them? They don't. How does Philip Morris know the person who bought the cigarettes is the same person lighting up? It's clearly not that important when selling actual poisons so why would it matter for accessing a website? The system works well enough to keep most kids from smoking. Rate-limit sales in a store (one per visit) and outlaw selling or transferring them to a minor (same penalties as giving alcohol or tobacco to a child). Require websites to implement one code per account policies with a code TTL of 6 months or a year, and identify and disallow account sharing. It's Good Enough verification with nearly perfect anonymity.
- firefoxd 10mo agoMy main concern is that there isn't a reliable way to know your information is securely stored[0]. > A few years ago, I received a letter in the mail addressed to my then-toddler. It was from a company I had never heard of. Apparently, there had been a breach and some customer information had been stolen. They offered a year of credit monitoring and other services. I had to read through every single word in that barrage of text to find out that this was a subcontractor with the hospital where my kids were born. So my kid's information was stolen before he could talk. Interestingly, they didn't send any letter about his twin brother. I'm pretty sure his name was right there next to his brother's in the database. > Here was a company that I had no interaction with, that I had never done business with, that somehow managed to lose our private information to criminals. That's the problem with online identity. If I upload my ID online for verification, it has to go through the wires. Once it reaches someone else's server, I can never get it back, and I have no control over what they do with it. All those parties are copying and transferring your information, and it's only a matter of time before it leaks. [0]: https://idiallo.com/blog/your-id-online-and-offline https://idiallo.com/blog/your-id-online-and-offline
- pixl97 10mo agoHonestly that main concern should be two main concerns. You/your kid/your wife goes to hàckernews.com and is prompted for age verification again, evidently the other information has expired based on the message. So they submit their details. Oops, that was typosquatting and now who the hell knows has your information. Good luck.
- AlienRobot 10mo agoExactly. Everything "private" that you post online will become public eventually. Everyone says "we only store the data temporarily and it's deleted right after" including everyone who didn't do that and got hacked. But I think we're far too late into this issue by now. It's 2026 and we still don't have a way to know if our passwords are being stored in a secure way in their databases. What hope do we have to know about how our photos are being handled?
- iLoveOncall 10mo agoWhat a piss poor article. "We disagree with age gates but our recommendation is to comply". Fuck this.
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- drnick1 10mo agoSwitch VPN region or upload a random picture generated by AI, problem solved.
- aleksandrm 10mo agoOpenAI uses AI to scan your ChatGPT conversations to determine your age. And even though I've been using ChatGPT for mostly work-related stuff, it has identified me, a man in my 40s, as under 18 and demanded government ID to prove my age. No thank you.
- numpad0 10mo agoIsn't age guesstimation by appearance, even with advanced machine learning techniques, even if attempted by real person with honest effort, just total snake oil? This ongoing age verification push with weird emphasis on generating name-face pairs is beyond fishy.
- drnick1 10mo agoIf this is about porn or other content deemed age-sensitive, the moment it becomes difficult to source through "official," mainstream platforms, the content will move underground (P2P networks), making it even more difficult to analyze and regulate. So this is a very shortsighted move.
- derektank 10mo agoTo be fair, this is sort of pitting two policy objectives against each other, preventing children from accessing pornography meant for adults on one hand and preventing the distribution of pornography illegal in all cases (e.g. revenge porn, CSAM) on the other. Reasonable people can disagree on which is more important and which should take priority (though I would agree that the latter should take priority)
- deadbabe 10mo agoIt is very easy to lie about age through age gates. I have yet to find one that is actually able to get strong proof of age, fake IDs are easy to upload.
- tracker1 10mo agoI'm honestly a bit mixed on this... I don't think that (especially young) children should have access to explicit, graphic sexual content, especially kink. If you as a parent want your kids to have access, so be it... but then the onus should be on the parent. On similar lines, I think that something between an unrestricted smart phone and the classic dumb phone is a market segment that is needed.
- neilv 10mo ago> At some point, you may have been faced with the decision yourself: should I continue to use this service if I have to verify my age? An excellent question, which I didn't see the article really get into. > If you’re given the option of selecting a verification method and are deciding which to use, we recommend considering the following questions for each process allowed by each vendor: Their criteria implies a lot of understanding on the part of the user -- regarding how modern Web systems work, widespread industry practices and motivations, how 'privacy policies' are often exceeded and assurances are often not satisfied, how much "audits" should be trusted, etc. I'd like to see advice that starts by communicating that the information will almost certainly be leaked and abused, in n different ways, and goes from there. > But unless your threat model includes being specifically targeted by a state actor or Private ID, that’s unlikely to be something you need to worry about. For the US, this was better advice pre-2025, before the guy who did salutes from the capitol was also an AI bro who then went around hoovering up data from all over government. Followed by a new veritable army and camps being created for domestic action. Paired with a posture from the top that's calling harmless ordinary citizens "terrorists", and taking quite a lot of liberties with power. We'll see how that plays out, but giving the old threat model advice, without qualification, might be doing a disservice.
- bloppe 10mo agoEstonia basically got this completely right in 2002 with their e-ID. I'm kinda shocked nobody else has figured it out yet. Age verification could be simple, secure, robust, and require only the disclosure of your age, nothing more. Instead, the rest of us have systems that are both far more vulnerable to privacy beaches, and far easier to circumvent anyway.
- einpoklum 10mo agoEither the platform is trying to age-gate anonymously, in which case it is likely you (or your child) can just circumvent that with fake details; or it's some corporation with ongoing access to large government databases, and probably the government can tap the data it collects in some ways, and you (or your child) should probably be worried about being there in the first place.
- devilsdata 10mo agoI'm 32 and submitted a photo of myself for age verification on Instagram and Threads. Was promptly banned, with no resource. I do look a little younger than 32, due to a healthy lifestyle and religious use of sunscreen but I have a beard and moustache. It's a little insane that I was instantly banned with no way to move forward.
- enceladus06 10mo agoNo. Fuck them. I'm not using whatever app. Use a VPN or pirate it.
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- notepad0x90 10mo agoI don't know why I find myself to be the lone voice with this opinion, but the pushback here should for the governments themselves to implement age-verification, just like how it's their job to implement issuance of IDs. They can implement a transparently auditable system, where you scan your id-card (nfc or camera) in the government's portal, and using oauth federation, it will confirm your age, and nothing more than that to sites requesting it. Site that wish to prevent the fact that you visited them a secret from the government can use various temporary domains, ips, Tor,etc... so long as the government's verification service can reach it. The government already has your ID information, and they already know at least your home IP (yes, this is actively shared with them in the US). The only privacy concern is them knowing what sites you're visiting. I get resisting and fighting this, but it's been years now and people are having to endure this mess. It isn't going away either. I was complaining about KYC laws earlier, they started out the same, it was about "terrorists" then. You can fight two fights in parallel. One to prevent the whole thing, another to require the government to implement a service themselves, do it transparently and preserve privacy while doing so. Yet another proposal I have is for sites that offer oauth federated login (google,microsoft,github,etc..) to vouch for your id verification, either by them doing it directly or via the government portal i proposed earlier. You'll then just login to sites with the right google account or whatever and that's all the site will ask from you. I would also be fine with buying a 'card' of some sort at stores that do id verification already, like where you'd buy a cigarette or alcohol. You also buy some scratchable card with a verification code on it. They can't argue it's not good enough, because it's good enough for cigs and alcohol. they can't say "what if a minor gets a hold of the card later" because what if a minor gets a hold of cigs or alcohol later as well?
- ndsipa_pomu 10mo agoIf we truly need age gates on the internet, then I think the best method is to have non-internet based age verification. I envisage going to a local shop and buying something like a gift-card that the shops only sell to adults (c.f. tobacco sales in the UK). That way, the gift-card code would be the only information required to upload to websites to prove that you're an adult and existing legislation could cover the shops requirements to not sell them to minors.
- triceratops 10mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46447282 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46447282 I had the same idea
- ndsipa_pomu 10mo agoI don't see why they'd need to expire after a time, but I think the purchaser should be able to revoke the code if they lose it if they particularly care. A least with it being a simple age verification system, there shouldn't be any worry about someone stealing your code as it shouldn't be linked to any accounts.
- triceratops 10mo agoIt prevents resale. Also additional friction for a minor who manages to illicitly obtain a code.
- ndsipa_pomu 10mo agoI don't see too much of an issue with resales - it's like if an adult buys booze for someone underage which can't really be prevented. My issue with having them expire is that people would have around 70 years of proving their age whilst minors only need to be prevented from accessing websites for up to 18 years (more likely just 10 years or so).
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- palata 10mo agoFirst, I believe that age verification is coming, whether we want it or not. It is completely accepted to ask for an ID before entering a night club or buying alcohol, there is no way "people" will be convinced that it is unreasonable to do that for social media and porn. It is coming, period. So the question is really: what is the best way to implement it? * I find the "buying a gift card at a store" idea interesting: the seller checks your ID and gives you a gift card. * I find the digital idea with privacy preservation interesting, too: the government already knows about me. If they can give me a token that only reveals my age, and I can use that token without revealing to the government where I used the token, then it works. I think the EFF's stance on this is: "but some people will have issues using that technology". I would like to know how many people that is, and why we couldn't imagine a way to help them?
- 1970-01-01 10mo agoGo to thispersondoesnotexist and upload your favorite face to continue.
- effnorwood 10mo agorun through and then xor right
- LandenLove 10mo agoIt's hard to read this article when nearly 50% of my screen is a subscription to their newsletter. Plus, at my screen size, I can't even view all the related issues/tags underneath it without scrolling to the bottom of the article.