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List of domains censored by German ISPs
- nonethewiser 10mo agoSo there are only 295 domains censored? Seems like a lot of them of streaming sights breaking copyright/license agreements. Has to be a small fraction of those such sites alone.
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- sccxy 10mo agoSo it is a collection of the best pirate sites?
- pelagicAustral 10mo agoIt is to me, faved.
- jug 10mo agoPretty much, yeah. Those they can't get to despite efforts.
- EbNar 10mo agoLet me write those down, to be sure no to go there by mistake.
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- aucisson_masque 10mo agoI don’t know why you think this is an edgy comment, I’m actually screenshotting it to take a look tomorrow at the links. I’ve seen Anna archive and SCI hub which are extremely useful, if it helps finding more gems I’m all for it !
- glenstein 10mo agoIt read that way to me too. It's the familiar switcheroo/hoist by their own petard/ironic one-upping move, a routine as well known to the internet as ape behavior is to Jane Goodall.
- echelon_musk 10mo agoYou're screenshotting URLs to type out?
- bigiain 10mo agoI do that on my phone. It's almost as easy to tap an ocr-ed url in my photos app as it is to click a link on a web page. (On my laptop, I'm just as likely to spend half a day writing a scraper or reverse engineering the javascript and apis to collect a dozen or two urls that I should have just jotted down in my notebook...)
- lostlogin 10mo agoThis is probably the best innovation in the last decade as far as I’m concerned. It has conquered the 20 digit WiFi password in 6 font.
- NL807 10mo agowhy type, when you can copy and paste text from images these days??
- hermanzegerman 10mo agoWell it's the truth ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯
- SSLy 10mo agoNo, it isn't so. It misses even the most notorious yet still private sites
- MomsAVoxell 10mo agoSuch as?
- accountofthaha 10mo agoCollection goes into my blocklist for at home. Pirating is theft. Pirating is inhumane.
- port11 10mo agoSure buddy. Price-gouging consumers, regional lock-ins, paying creators a tiny %, revoking licenses, using public funds to make for-profit media, etc., these are all humane and chill.
- accountofthaha 10mo agoThis is the result of the laws put in place, and yes they should be changed. That doesn't make pirating morally or legally justified. 'Because he is bad I can be bad too' is morally wrong.
- asm0dey 10mo agoOr maybe it does. For some of us
- port11 10mo agoI understand your point, but the laws in place are heavily decided by the lobbyists and cartels that pad the pockets of politicians. If the system is unfair or immoral, playing by its rules doesn’t make things any better. I’m not saying “hey, go steal from content creators”. I studied multimedia and was a content creator myself. I pay for many of my media, but draw the line somewhere, e.g. do I think Disney deserves my money…
- accountofthaha 10mo ago"I don't think Disney deserves money". And that, in my eyes, makes it morally incorrect. They are the copyright holder, or a lot of times the creator. They thus deserve the income. They being evil doesn't make your evil correct.
- Semaphor 10mo agoFor those wondering: it's DNS blocks, so only affecting those using ISP DNS.
- wrboyce 10mo agoWorth mentioning NextDNS and ControlD under this! I migrated from the former to the latter about six months ago, but both are a solid choice.
- mctt 10mo agoFree trial then $20USD per year for ControlD. Is that what you use? If so, why do you use this over another service?
- cyberpunk 10mo agoNot GP, but I just run my own dns inside the network (unbound on a little openbsd sbc) with a cronjob that pipes oisd.nl into it every night, works great..
- silisili 10mo agoNot OP but I also use ControlD. I admittedly like NextDNS interface better, but honestly, I rarely need to login anyways. So why ControlD? Because I don't want to run my own piHole, basically. They maintain ad block lists that you can edit as you see fit to add things or relax things that may cause issues(which you can't do easily with public ad blocking dns servers). Why ControlD then and not NextDNS? First, because their support was awesome when I had an issue. AFAICT it was the founder actually emailing me back and forth, and it ended up being my ISP's fault, but I only knew that based on research provided to me by support. Secondly, I got a good deal on a 5-year subscription at one point. Happy to answer any questions, not affiliated but a fan of the service.
- maxloh 10mo agoI am curious why SNI-based block isn't used.
- lifestyleguru 10mo agoGermans are mostly chill but if you start torrenting copyrighed content or even watching illegal streaming they will eat your face and drink your warm blood.
- xg15 10mo agoGerman authorities, not Germans.
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- nosianu 10mo agoIt's mostly certain law firms employed by copyright owners. Famous (in Germany) example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frommer_Legal https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frommer_Legal (use auto-translate, it's German)
- aleph_minus_one 10mo ago> Famous (in Germany) example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frommer_Legal https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frommer_Legal (use auto-translate, it's German) For a lot of Germans who are knowledgable in this topic, being associated with such a company is nearly like openly admitting to have raped children. The hate for these law firms and their employees is extreme.
- UberFly 10mo agoExcept for the late night home raids rooting out "hate speech". Opposite of chill.
- nosianu 10mo agoJust for anyone new here, if you have comments like this, please be specific and post something a neutral person can verify and form their own opinion on. Don't just post silly one-liners that don't have any real content. This would have been a concrete example, where a government minister abused the system because a tweet annoyed him: https://theweek.com/news/world-news/954635/willygate-german-minister-ridiculed https://theweek.com/news/world-news/954635/willygate-german-...
- croisillon 10mo agoand here for Magenta Austria https://blog.magenta.at/internet/sicherheit/netzsperre/ https://blog.magenta.at/internet/sicherheit/netzsperre/
- jug 10mo agoHonestly makes it look like legislation with "sponsorship" from the film industry. I had expected much shadier stuff or those overrun with malware to protect users, not like 90% illicit streaming.
- baby_souffle 10mo ago> or those overrun with malware to protect users The anti-malware companies won't lobby government to block malware as that would cut into sales of their anti virus/malware.
- carpenecopinum 10mo agoThere is no legislation here. CUII is a private organization that generates lists of domains that contain copyright violations. ISPs voluntarily choose to block those.
- like_any_other 10mo agoVoluntarily under threat of prosecution under existing legislation if they don't.
- dark-star 10mo agono, under threat of filing every single copyright claim against them, swamping their legal department. Which is the correct way to do it (i.e. file a claim if you see someone violating copyright law). This just makes it easier for the ISPs
- like_any_other 10mo ago> no, under threat of filing every single copyright claim against them A.k.a. prosecution under existing legislation.
- leonwip 10mo agoBut it is not legally required, and at least my smaller German ISP doesn’t seem to care.
- lucb1e 10mo agoWhich one is that? I would be interested in paying a bit more if the ISP is better. In the Netherlands we always had xs4all, nowadays sorta morphed into freedom internet, which was started from a hacker magazine and kept the spirit, fighting surveillance and censorship while offering regular ISP services and then some. I'm not aware that Germany has such a thing so any step in the right direction would make me switch if I can get it (should be fine if it's available via Telekom's public network, we're currently on a virtual operator as well)
- jillesvangurp 10mo agoI use an o2 DSL connection in Berlin. The domains I tested seem to resolve fine. And you can of course configure an alternate DNS. Which apparently I didn't yet on my new laptop. So, that is fixed now. Mostly that's just a performance fix. Operator DNS tends to be a bit slow to respond and it's nice to get back a few milliseconds. But I also don't mind my operator not spying on me. Of course I also use Firefox so mostly that just bypasses the system DNS entirely and uses dns over https.
- borlox 10mo agoMy ISP doesn't care either. Why would they.
- __jonas 10mo agoOf course, the CUII is not a government entity, it's just a group of copyright holders and ISPs, the member list is here: https://cuii.info/mitglieder/ https://cuii.info/mitglieder/
- Timwi 10mo agoWhat incentivizes an ISP to become a member if it's not legally required and it pisses off (some) customers?
- nik282000 10mo agoAnna's Archive and Sci-Hub. So despite their facade the German government is just as draconian as the US.
- crazygringo 10mo agoDespite what facade?
- easterncalculus 10mo agoThe frequently repeated keystone lie that Europeans have equivalent or greater rights, freedoms, and protection from authoritarianism than Americans, which is and has always been objectively and completely false.
- cedilla 10mo agoWell, when fascists are in power, paper won't help anyone. But at this point, as a European I enjoy enumerated human and civil rights from multiple constitutions and several international treaties, which are directly enforceable by courts at the state, national, and European level. The human and civil rights guaranteed by the US constitution are a complete joke in comparison, and most of them are not guaranteed directly constitution, but by Supreme Court interpretation of vague 18th century law that can change at any time.
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- pessimizer 10mo agoYou seem to have missed the Bill of Rights. Which is odd, because whenever we tell you during online arguments that our rights are guaranteed, you all say that absolute rights are dumb and it's actually more sophisticated and European to not have them. Not that courts, legislators, and administrations haven't tried and succeeded in abridging them somewhat in any number of different ways for shorter or longer periods, but the text remains, and can always be referred to in the end. They have to abuse the language in order to abridge the Bill of Rights, and eventually that passes the point of absurdity. No such challenge in Europe. Every "right" is the right to do something unless it is not allowed.
- elcapitan 10mo ago39c3 talk about this tomorrow (in German, but usually available with English translation) https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/cuii-wie-konzerne-heimlich-webseiten-in-deutschland-sperren https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/...
- on_the_train 10mo agoI know a few more, for example demonoid. This list is just a sunset. Inb4 "actually it's not Germany censoring. It's the ISPs"
- deejaaymac 10mo agoI thought demonoid was dead dead?
- jstummbillig 10mo agoAnd now I am really interested in what Anna might have in that archive of her's
- gloxkiqcza 10mo agoFor example soon to be released 300TB Spotify music library dump. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46338339 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46338339
- kn100 10mo agoWhat a handy list the Germans have prepared
- wltr 10mo agoI have never visited these kino domains, but I assume that’s just some piracy entity. Yet it’s quite impressive how many various domain names they bought! What for? Is it to avoid those blocks? Or is there any more reasons?
- Barrin92 10mo agomostly to avoid the blocking. Those streaming sites used to be extremely popular here in Germany because there was an entire cottage industry (Abmahnanwälte) that used to pester uploaders with legal threats. Not sure what the state of it is now given that commercial streaming replaced a lot of both.
- zoklet-enjoyer 10mo agoThis reminds me of a screenshot I saw where someone told chatgpt they stumbled upon a piracy website and wanted a list of other websites to avoid hahaha
- croisillon 10mo agorelated: December 2024, 31 comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42457712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42457712
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- lukan 10mo agoAh yes, we need to forcefully protect our citiziens from all the evils of the internet: rapists, pedophiles, terrorists ... oh wait, this is just about copyright stuff. Seriously, thanks for updating that list and the nice instructions to circumvent. (3 clicks with firefox, without the need to install anything or type in anything by hand)
- diego_moita 10mo agoBeing German, is not surprising so many are sites with football games (i.e. the game Americans call "soccer").
- debesyla 10mo agoAnd lithuanian list is here: https://www.nksc.lt/vasaris.html https://www.nksc.lt/vasaris.html (in lithuanian). Mostly phishing sites, but includes fun piracy portals too. Content piracy specific, mostly movies, blocked by public broadcaster orders: https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk.txt https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk.txt, https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk-2.txt https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk-2.txt, https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk-3.txt https://www.nksc.lt/doc/vasaris/siena-lrtk-3.txt
- lacoolj 10mo agoInteresting they went through the trouble of blocking specific subdomains rather than just blanketing the entire domains for all the "www*." at the end of the list And yet, the entire beginning of the list, no subdomains listed - so are subdomains for them allowed (unless specifically blocked here)?
- ivanjermakov 10mo agoI love Streisand effect.
- kuon 10mo agoNice, a list of torrent sites!
- andsoitis 10mo agobuffstreams.sx wasn’t what I hoped for.
- maoxiaoke 10mo agoWe once laughed at China for building a wall — and now we’ve built our own
- echelon 10mo agoWe're doing a lot of things China is doing. Meta, Flock cameras, Palantir. It's just a public-private partnership rather than purely state-owned enterprise, like the NSA/CIA/DoD. In theory we have more distribution of power, but it's still surveillance and control that we have little say in.
- summa_tech 10mo agoThe issue is that China has done, on the whole, fairly alright for itself. So everyone with any power in the West is looking and thinking: "huh, so the freedom and rights and property were really not important for progress at all - might as well can it".
- hamonrye 10mo agoError 522 Server Times Out when SSL certificate is not valid. Consider Cloudflare’s 527 Railgun Origin error for WAN connections. https://web.archive.org/web/20161013152120/https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/217891268-527-Railgun-Listener-to-Origin-Error https://web.archive.org/web/20161013152120/https://support.c...
- morgengold 10mo agoI found nice soccer streams thanks to that list I never would have been able to find otherwise.
- oriettaxx 10mo agouh, great so many about movie streaming https://kinos.to https://kinos.to then you blame governments
- imartin2k 10mo agoI see canna.to on the list. Amazing, that site already existed when I downloaded MP3s in my early internet days, in 2000. And still looks pretty much the same.
- seb1204 10mo agoSame though, must be a passion project of some retirees by now.
- hopelite 10mo agoI wonder what the overlap is of people who find out about one of these URLs, but also does not know how to use a VPN? It seems to me like it would be near zero. I also wonder if there is some kind of legal requirement for ISPs to engage in that kind of immoral, inhumane, and authoritarian censorship? I get the “stealing is bad” argument, but far worse and an evil slippery slopes is depriving humans of their human right to free will.
- Garlef 10mo ago> I wonder what the overlap is of people who find out about one of these URLs, but also does not know how to use a VPN? It seems to me like it would be near zero. The whole kinox thing was "common knowledge" among students a few years ago. And this was way before VPN providers became patrons of the arts.
- lunias 10mo ago"Censoring" in this way is stupid and ineffective. Germans should demand better.
- gilrim 10mo agoLol, list doesnt load any longer