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Excessive UV exposure in general not a great time, tanning is just a way of speedrunning damage unless done in very short intervals. I'll never understand some
by miladyincontrol 10mo ago
Excessive UV exposure in general not a great time, tanning is just a way of speedrunning damage unless done in very short intervals.
I'll never understand some people's fetishization with getting darker via tanning though. Theres nothing wrong with light skin, its only a few western countries that seem to have a weird fetishization with cooking your skin longterm to get darker short term.
Meanwhile most other countries and peoples are willing to damage their skin in whole other ways trying to get the opposite.
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- thisislife2 10mo agoCosmetic companies to blame? In the east, they fetishize white / fair skin, while in the west they fetishize dark skin.
- asdfasvea 10mo agoNo, people who do it are to blame.
- miladyincontrol 10mo agoPossibly. Its actually insanely frustrating as someone pale that most western brands rarely approach the level of lightness I need to match my skin, and the few that come close often are almost always rather saturated, highly warm tones. They almost always just stick to tones within the realm of pantone's skin guide, treating it more like a skin bible instead. Haus labs and their triclone in 000 is one of the few foundations I've ever had match.
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- prmoustache 10mo agoPeople with dark skin do also still struggle to find their tones in most western countries unless they live in a huge city.
- tveita 10mo agoThey're both imitations of status symbols "wealthy people can stay inside while poor people work in the sun" vs. "wealthy people can vacation in sunny countries while poor people stay home in the cold"
- mrits 10mo agoThe US has 200 million white people that live in a mostly warm and sunny climate. Women often tan before vacations or events so they look better in the pictures.
- Forgeties79 10mo agoMen (7.4%) and women (11.5%) both do it, but yes women in the US in larger numbers. Worth mentioning it’s still a substantial % of men. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5664932/#:~:text=9.5%25%20of%20adults%20were%20intentionally,(11.4%25%20vs%207.5%25). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5664932/#:~:text=9....
- mrits 10mo agoWhat do you think those numbers represent? Just so everyone is clear, it's still 12% when we are talking about females who frequently outdoor tan of all races with half the group over 45 years old in a tiny test group. Not exactly relevant
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- Forgeties79 10mo agoYou are welcome to provide your own source equal in quality to the NIH’s research.
- mrits 10mo agoI doubt they'd appreciate you misrepresenting their research
- Tha_14 10mo agoYou can always use Melanotan II instead to get a good tan while also increasing libido and sleep quality; )
- fhdkweig 10mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanotan_II says it is banned in the United States, and anything you get on the black market isn't guaranteed to be pure.
- 0_____0 10mo agoWhere does it say it's banned?
- fhdkweig 10mo agoSecond paragraph mentions "regulatory restrictions". Clinuvel Pharmaceuticals intended to offer it as a cosmetic, but abandoned this pursuit in the 2000s due to regulatory restrictions and concerns about the promotion of suntanning. Unlicensed Melanotan II is found on the internet, although health agencies advise against its use due to lack of testing and regulatory approval.
- IAmGraydon 10mo agoIt’s banned for cosmetic use. You can still buy it as a “research chemical”.
- echelon 10mo agoDo not buy it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46345971 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46345971
- IAmGraydon 10mo agoI’m pretty sure Melanotan carries the risk of retinal pigmentation, or at least that was the case with the original. Not sure if II is different.
- victor106 10mo ago> I'll never understand some people's fetishization with getting darker via tanning though While some darker skin people want to have lighter skin. Maybe at some deeper level it’s something about being human. We always want something the other person has
- Bridged7756 10mo agoI'm pretty sure it's just cultural. They don't want to be fairer, or darker, they want the social status that it, allegedly, signals.
- prmoustache 10mo ago> We always want something the other person has This. Same with curly vs straight hair.
- brap 10mo agoI’m naturally pretty pale and don’t get much sunlight, I feel like I look like shit unless I get just a little bit of tan. What most people would consider just a healthy looking “baseline”. It also puts me in a better mood although that may be entirely psychological. When I was younger I used to intentionally tan for short durations, but now I realize that’s harmful so I just embrace the cave gollum look
- api 10mo agoThe mood is probably part light and part vitamin D. The latter can be supplemented. The former can be reproduced with a full spectrum bright lamp or brief sun exposure in the morning.
- yunwal 10mo agoI mean sort of but you should probably just get some sun if you can. There’s such a thing as too much tanning, sure, but getting no sun is not healthy either.
- nemomarx 10mo agoBe sure you're taking care of your skin doing it, though. Get the good European sunscreens and so on, you don't want to age yourself prematurely.
- hexbin010 10mo agoI've tried all kinds of Vitamin D/bright bulbs/staring at the sun over the years and they do nothing for my mood
- viking123 10mo agoI am white as paper, probably one of the palest people and I live in Asia and often get comment that I have the dream skin. While back at home my parents were teasing me about being a ghost and doctors asking am I sick. Interesting how it changes on cultural basis
- lelanthran 10mo ago> I'll never understand some people's fetishization with getting darker > ... > Meanwhile most other countries and peoples are willing to damage their skin in whole other ways trying to get the opposite. The grass has more melanin on the other side.
- falcor84 10mo agoBut that's the thing, it's not about "more melanin", but rather about something like: The grass on the other side has a different amount of melanin be harder-to-achieve and thus more desirable because it previously signaled belonging to the higher socio-economical strata.
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- fennecbutt 10mo agoAnd what's funny is Western countries idolise tanned skin whereas Asian countries tend to idolise lighter skin.
- the__alchemist 10mo agoIt's indeed, baffling, ignoring health consequences: Get fashionably darker skin now: Make your skin look (reasonably universally) irreversibly uglier/older gradually over time. This is perhaps the most controllable way to affect how old you look. It becomes unmissable once someone is in their 30s: Some still have youthful skin, while others are wrinkly, splotched, and saggy.
- viking123 10mo agoI often see women in their mid 20s looking like 35 simply because of the skin.
- kens 10mo agoThe popularity of tanning is attributed to fashion designer Coco Chanel, who accidentally got too much sun on a Mediterranean cruise in 1923. Since she was a fashion icon, this made the tanned look fashionable. As an aside, the chemistry behind UV damage is interesting. You can think of DNA as a sequence of four letters: C, G, A, and T. If there are two neighboring T's, UV can move a bond, linking the two T's together (i.e. thymine dimerization). If you're in the sun, each skin cell gets 50-100 of these pairs created per second. Enzymes usually fix these errors, but sometimes the errors will cause problems during DNA replication and you can end up with mutations. Enough of the wrong mutations can cause skin cancer. So wear sunscreen! https://pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/91 https://pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/91
- kens 10mo agoIt's too late to edit my previous comment, but I wanted to add one more random tanning fact: UV releases β-endorphin so tanning is literally addictive, to the point that naloxone will cause withdrawal symptoms, at least in mice: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(14)00611-4 https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(14)00611-4
- mixmastamyk 10mo agoThe book by Dr. Seuss, “The Star Bellied Sneetches” explorers the phenomenon.
- morshu9001 10mo agoI've never seen anyone look better after tanning.
- wisty 10mo agoI saw a paper that shows that peole find contrasts attractive. I can't find it, but here's the same finding for salads https://www.sciencedirect.com:5037/science/article/abs/pii/S0950329318310061 https://www.sciencedirect.com:5037/science/article/abs/pii/S... Blond hair with a tan or black hair with white skin are more contrasting so look more striking.