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You can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever

by reactordev 10mo ago

KetoManx64 10mo ago
*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.
- dsp_person 10mo ago
  Ya I regret updating mine. The UI both significantly slowed down, and lost the chance to root :(
  - reactordev 10mo ago
    I just rooted one that was updated last week. Never say never. Just search for faultmanager... though it is a cat and mouse game
    - dsp_person 10mo ago
      I'm on webOS24 with 23.20.68, and CanI.RootMy.TV says it was patched in 23.20.68
- anal_reactor 10mo ago
  It boggles my mind why anyone would update anything in 2025. Most products are shipped with full feature set and then updates ensure enshittification. The security argument doesn't apply because classic hacks rarely happen, it's mostly social engineering.
  - walthamstow 10mo ago
    Agreed, every update of a stable consumer product is a risk that it might just go completely sideways
  - slumberlust 10mo ago
    Should we assume by anything you mean edge devices? You don't update your PC? Your phone?
    - allarm 10mo ago
      > You don't update your PC? Your phone? You make it sound like it's almost a crime not to.
      - dns_snek 10mo ago
        It's not a crime, but it's a foolish thing to do if you care about your data. Find vendors that aren't user hostile and still deliver security updates. For me that's various flavors of Linux (Debian, Fedora, arch, depending on my mood) and GrapheneOS on mobile.
        duskdozer 10mo ago
        GrapheneOS still takes most Android updates though, no? And since at least Android 13, I can only really think of updates that were hostile (to me).
    - anal_reactor 10mo ago
      I update my PC but I don't update my phone. Android is pretty much a complete product, and new updates just shuffle around the icons. > Major changes in Android 16 > Battery icons are changed to landscape, with the percentage shown inside the icon I think it boils down to how much you trust the software vendor to operate in good faith. My PC runs on Fedora and those people don't have any QA, but at least they do their honest best. My gaming handheld is on Bazzite and it's a similar situation. But Google has a proven record of enshittification of Android. I turned off TV software updates long ago because I only use it as a dumb screen so I don't understand what is there to update. My headphones yell at me "there's firmware update available" but I don't want to discover what new problems were introduced, current firmware works correctly. I have a smart robot that's fully cloud-operated and they recently introduced a completely new app. I'll keep using the old app as long as I can because I don't want to be their beta-tester and the old app works. I have smart light system and there's no reason to update anything because the functionality "use remote control to choose the desired light setup" mostly works with small glitches that aren't too annoying.

You can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever

KetoManx64 10mo ago

*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.

dsp_person 10mo ago
Ya I regret updating mine. The UI both significantly slowed down, and lost the chance to root :(
- reactordev 10mo ago
  I just rooted one that was updated last week. Never say never. Just search for faultmanager... though it is a cat and mouse game
  - dsp_person 10mo ago
    I'm on webOS24 with 23.20.68, and CanI.RootMy.TV says it was patched in 23.20.68
anal_reactor 10mo ago
It boggles my mind why anyone would update anything in 2025. Most products are shipped with full feature set and then updates ensure enshittification. The security argument doesn't apply because classic hacks rarely happen, it's mostly social engineering.
- walthamstow 10mo ago
  Agreed, every update of a stable consumer product is a risk that it might just go completely sideways
- slumberlust 10mo ago
  Should we assume by anything you mean edge devices? You don't update your PC? Your phone?
  - allarm 10mo ago
    > You don't update your PC? Your phone? You make it sound like it's almost a crime not to.
    - dns_snek 10mo ago
      It's not a crime, but it's a foolish thing to do if you care about your data. Find vendors that aren't user hostile and still deliver security updates. For me that's various flavors of Linux (Debian, Fedora, arch, depending on my mood) and GrapheneOS on mobile.
      - duskdozer 10mo ago
        GrapheneOS still takes most Android updates though, no? And since at least Android 13, I can only really think of updates that were hostile (to me).
  - anal_reactor 10mo ago
    I update my PC but I don't update my phone. Android is pretty much a complete product, and new updates just shuffle around the icons. > Major changes in Android 16 > Battery icons are changed to landscape, with the percentage shown inside the icon I think it boils down to how much you trust the software vendor to operate in good faith. My PC runs on Fedora and those people don't have any QA, but at least they do their honest best. My gaming handheld is on Bazzite and it's a similar situation. But Google has a proven record of enshittification of Android. I turned off TV software updates long ago because I only use it as a dumb screen so I don't understand what is there to update. My headphones yell at me "there's firmware update available" but I don't want to discover what new problems were introduced, current firmware works correctly. I have a smart robot that's fully cloud-operated and they recently introduced a completely new app. I'll keep using the old app as long as I can because I don't want to be their beta-tester and the old app works. I have smart light system and there's no reason to update anything because the functionality "use remote control to choose the desired light setup" mostly works with small glitches that aren't too annoying.