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Is there anything we can do about it short of avoiding new cars? Our legislators have proven unwilling to pass real privacy laws.
by more_corn 10mo ago
Is there anything we can do about it short of avoiding new cars? Our legislators have proven unwilling to pass real privacy laws.
- throwaway2027 10mo agoNo. Enjoy the ride.
- qmr 10mo agoDefeatist and cowardly.
- randallsquared 10mo agoGiven that GP is accepting a level of additional risk which you profess not to be willing to accept, perhaps "cowardly" is not the correct adjective.
- DonHopkins 10mo agoRide a bike.
- pixelpoet 10mo agoI've never had a driver's licence, lived in a zillion countries; don't think I could do that in America though.
- Retric 10mo agoOver half of New York City households are car-free. That jumps to 3/4 in Manhattan. Millions of American households don’t have a car, but you rarely hear about it as a viable option.
- JoeBOFH 10mo agoBecause as soon as you leave a major metropolitan area, not having a car is almost a nonstarter.
- add-sub-mul-div 10mo agoOver 100 million people live in just the top 20 metro areas alone. It's hardly an edge case.
- cwillu 10mo agoAnd _not_ living in one of the top 20 metro areas is also hardly an edge case.
- ghaff 10mo agoAnd even in most of those metros (OK. Leave aside Manhattan), not having a car tends to imply a lot of lifestyle choices in terms of activities, visiting friends outside of the metro, etc. There are certainly people who are OK with living like they did in their urban school for a few years after graduation. But that's not a long-term solution for most people.
- vel0city 10mo agoA massive chunk (if not majority?) of those top 20 metro areas are largely car dependent for most of their populations. Large areas don't have any public transit at all, and the rest is often designed to be actively hostile to pedestrians. Try living without a car in these places, all in the 4th largest MSA. https://maps.app.goo.gl/mHmGidZRJaKptHeL8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/mHmGidZRJaKptHeL8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/5P4mW5iM6b5ab9Ve7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/5P4mW5iM6b5ab9Ve7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/JCiBgESKs5ZWqGny8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/JCiBgESKs5ZWqGny8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/E1iVwLCB28ooGhQL9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/E1iVwLCB28ooGhQL9 These are all in "urban" areas and a part of DFW. But how about Houston, the 5th? https://maps.app.goo.gl/7yEAimERmyE1EGde6 https://maps.app.goo.gl/7yEAimERmyE1EGde6 https://maps.app.goo.gl/UKSQjPqifWUSv82H7 https://maps.app.goo.gl/UKSQjPqifWUSv82H7 I don't know how one would even get groceries without a car. And even then, you're then talking about less than 1/3 of Americans living in that mostly car dependent space.
- chneu 10mo agoNot possible when things are 10+ mile apart and a general grocery run takes 3+ hours and you can't carry more than a backpack, so you have to do it multiple times a week.
- Zigurd 10mo agoThe US is ripe for an e-bike revolution. The distances, the wide roads with plenty of room for bike lanes, and the revulsion against things like Flock... Unfortunately it's as likely as this being the year of the Linux desktop because Windows 11.
- yencabulator 10mo agoMeanwhile a few months back I watched a pickup swerve towards a bicyclist. USA on the average is hostile to anything non-car in a way that is hard to even comprehend.
- amelius 10mo agoMoving to the EU becomes a more appealing option every day.
- pixelpoet 10mo agoGreetz from Germany, we have Chat Control now even though we've been trying to reject it for at least 3 years. Autocracy is just everywhere these days, Noah get the boat.
- fsflover 10mo agoThis is false, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46063166 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46063166
- jeroenhd 10mo agoThe Chat Control problem isn't nearly as final as some news sources try to brand it. They were running up against deadlines and submitted their work knowing statistically their proposal would get shot down based on existing voting rounds. I, too, would rather see this bullshit die in committee before reaching the next stage, but this bullshit can still be stopped.
- f1shy 10mo agoNo panacea here! Better in some points. In general privacy. OTOH many things are not afvancing.
- closewith 10mo agoIn the EU, eCall is mandatory and disabling it fails most roadworthiness checks and voids most insurance policies, so it doesn't help much. Also, while the EU does (for now) have stronger privacy protections for citizens against corporate interests, the opposite is true in most EU countries for Government surveillance.
- deno 10mo agoeCall has very strong privacy protections, see Article 6: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2015/758/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2015/758/oj
- markus_zhang 10mo agoMaybe there is a way to pollute the data? At least it makes data cleaning more expensive.
- chasing0entropy 10mo agoYes - remove the telematics radio and GPS antennas. They are usually in the overhead console area around/behind the lighting and mirror controls. In BMWs, the gps antenna is behind the upper lights, the telematics and V2V antenna is in the sharkfin(unplug it from underneath the headliner)
- f1shy 10mo agoIn some seem to be in the fin antenna: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OqFdFO_STJ0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OqFdFO_STJ0
- encom 10mo agoBut what's the point if you're just going to use Android Auto or Apple's car-thing instead? You're just letting some other company invade your privacy.
- baobun 10mo agoAssuming things much? It's actually totally reasonable to opt out of both of those, too. Then on the other hand, who cares about those when your car is already tracking you? /s That kind of helpless reasoning needs to die.
- Proofread0592 10mo agoConsent and convenience. When I use google maps, I am trading my privacy for accurate directions and traffic times. When I buy a car that sells my location, and I get nothing in return, I feel like the deal is inequitable.
- jeroenhd 10mo agoOsmAnd works fine in Android Auto with WiFi and mobile data turned off. Sygic does too. I believe TomTom also sells navigation apps that will work fine under these conditions. I use Android Auto mostly because I don't trust manufacturers of car components to maintain their software and to put more than bargain bin SoCs in their infotainment consoles. There's no need for your Android phone to have a connection to the outside world if all you're using it for is locally installed apps.
- stavros 10mo agoIn my BYD Seal, I removed the SIM card that's easily accessible from inside the armrest compartment.