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Nano Banana Pro
- Razengan 11mo agoCan Google Gemini 3 check Google Flights for live ticket prices yet? (The Gemini 3 post has a million comments too many to ask this now)
- jeffbee 11mo agohttps://gemini.google.com/share/19fed9993f06 https://gemini.google.com/share/19fed9993f06
- Razengan 11mo agoAh thanks, might have to make a throwaway account just for that. Gemini 2 still goes "While I cannot check Google Flights directly, I can provide you with information based on current search results…" blah blah
- fouronnes3 11mo agoI guess the true endgame of AI products is naming them. We still have quite a way to go.
- awillen 11mo agoHonestly I give Google credit for realizing that they had something that people were talking about and running with it instead of just calling it gemini-image-large-with-text-pro
- echelon 11mo agoThey tried calling it gemini-2.5-whatever, but social media obsessed over the name "Nano Banana", which was just its codename that got teased on Twitter for a few weeks prior to launch. After launch, Google's public branding for the product was "Gemini" until Google just decided to lean in and fully adopt the vastly more popular "Nano Banana" label. The public named this product, not Google. Google's internal codename went virally popular and outstaged the official name. Branding matters for distribution. When you install yourself into the public consciousness with a name, you'd better use the name. It's free distribution. You own human wetware market share for free. You're alive in the minds of the public. Renaming things every human has brand recognition of, eg. HBO -> Max, is stupid. It doesn't matter if the name sucks. ChatGPT as a name sucks. But everyone in the world knows it. This will forever be Nano Banana unless they deprecate the product.
- mupuff1234 11mo agoI doubt majority of the public knows what "nano banana" or even "Gemini" means, they probably just call it "Google AI". And I'm willing to bet eventually Google will rename Gemini to be something like Google AI or roll it back into Google assistant.
- timenotwasted 11mo agoWe just need a new AI for that.
- b33j0r 11mo agoThis has always been the hardest problem in computer science besides “Assume a lightweight J2EE distribution…”
- jedberg 11mo agoI was at a tech conference yesterday, and I asked someone if they had tried nano banana. They looked at me like I was crazy. These names aren't helping! (But honestly I love it, easier to remember than Gemini-2.whatever.
- mlmonkey 11mo agoThere are only 2 hard problems in computer science: cache coherency, naming things and off by 1 errors...
- meetpateltech 11mo agoDeveloper Blog: https://blog.google/technology/developers/gemini-3-pro-image-developers/ https://blog.google/technology/developers/gemini-3-pro-image... DeepMind Page: https://deepmind.google/models/gemini-image/pro/ https://deepmind.google/models/gemini-image/pro/ Model Card: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Gemini-3-Pro-Image-Model-Card.pdf https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Ge... SynthID in Gemini: https://blog.google/technology/ai/ai-image-verification-gemini-app/ https://blog.google/technology/ai/ai-image-verification-gemi...
- varbhat 11mo agoCan anyone please explain me the invisible watermarking mentioned in the said promo?
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- nickdonnelly 11mo agoIt's called Synth ID. It's a watermark that proves an image was generated by AI. https://deepmind.google/models/synthid/ https://deepmind.google/models/synthid/
- VladVladikoff 11mo agoSuper important for Google as a search engine so they can filter out and downrank AI generated results. However I expect there are many models out there which don’t do this, that everyone could use instead. So in the end a “feature” like this makes me less likely to use their model because I don’t know how Google will end up treating my blog post if I decide to include an AI generated or AI edited image.
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- Filligree 11mo agoIt’s required by EU regulations. Any public generator that doesn’t do it, is in violation of that unless it’s entirely inaccessible from the EU… But of course there’s no way to enforce it on local generation.
- Aloisius 11mo agoThe EU didn't define any specific method of watermarking nor does it need to be tamper resistant. Even if they had specified it though, it's easy to remove watermarks like SynthID.
- volkk 11mo agoSynthID seems interesting but in classic Google fashion, I haven't a clue on how to use it and the only button that exists is join a waitlist. Apparently it's been out since 2023? Also, does SynthID work only within gemini ecosystem? If so, is this the beginning of a slew of these products with no one standard way? i.e "Have you run that image through tool1, tool2, tool3, and tool4 before deciding this image is legit?" edit: apparently people have been able to remove these watermarks with a high success rate so already this feels like a DOA product
- dragonwriter 11mo ago> SynthID seems interesting but in classic Google fashion, I haven't a clue on how to use it and the only button that exists is join a waitlist. Apparently it's been out since 2023? Also, does SynthID work only within gemini ecosystem? If so, is this the beginning of a slew of these products with no one standard way No, its not the beginning, multiple different watermarking standards, watermark checking systems, and, of course, published countermeasures of various effectiveness for most of them, have been around for a while.
- dieortin 11mo agoDo you have a source on people being able to remove SynthID watermarks?
- volkk 11mo agojust another comment here, i happened to believe it
- hbn 11mo agoI wouldn't trust any of the info in those images in the first carousel if I found them in the wild. It looks like AI image slop and I assume anyone who thinks those look good enough to share did not fact check any of the info and just prompted "make an image with a recipe for X"
- matsemann 11mo agoYeah, the weird yellow tint, the kerning/fonts etc still immediately gives it away. But I wouldn't mind being easily able to make infographics like these, I'd just like to supply the textual and factual content myself.
- kccqzy 11mo agoI would do the same. But the reason for that is because I’m terrible at drawing and digital art, so I would need some help with the graphics in an infographics anyways. I don’t really need help with writing text or typesetting the text. I feel like if I were better at creating art I would not want AI involved at all.
- jpadkins 11mo agoreally missed an opportunity to name it micro banana (or milli banana). Personally I can't wait for mega banana next year.
- guzik 11mo agoCool, but it's still unusable for me. Somehow all my prompts are violating the rules, huh?
- Filligree 11mo agoCan you give us an example?
- guzik 11mo ago'athlete wearing a health tracker under a fitted training top' Failed to generate content: permission denied. Please try again.
- raincole 11mo agoIt's not the censorship safeguard. Permission denied means you need a paid API key to use it. It's confusing, I know. If you triggered the safeguard it'll give you the typical "sorry, I can't..." LLM response.
- mudkipdev 11mo agoAre you asking it to recreate people?
- guzik 11mo agoNo, and no nudity, no reference images. Example: 'athlete wearing a health tracker under a fitted training top'
- ASinclair 11mo agoHave some examples?
- gdulli 11mo agoIn 25 years we'll reminisce on the times when we could find a human artist who wouldn't impose Google's or OpenAI's rules on their output.
- eminence32 11mo ago> Generate better visuals with more accurate, legible text directly in the image in multiple languages Assuming that this new model works as advertised, it's interesting to me that it took this long to get an image generation model that can reliably generate text. Why is text generation in images so hard?
- Filligree 11mo agoIt’s not necessarily harder than other aspects. However: - It requires an AI that actually understands English, I.e. an LLM. Older, diffusion-only models were naturally terrible at that, because they weren’t trained on it. - It requires the AI to make no mistakes on image rendering, and that’s a high bar. Mistakes in image generation are so common we have memes about it, and for all that hands generally work fine now, the rest of the picture is full of mistakes you can’t tell are mistakes. Entirely impossible with text. Nano Banana Pro seems to somewhat reliably produce entire pictures without any mistakes at all.
- tobr 11mo agoAs a complete layman, it seems obvious that it should be hard? Like, text is a type of graphic that needs to be coherent both in its detail and its large structure, and there’s a very small amount of variation that we don’t immediately notice as strange or flat out incorrect. That’s not true of most types of imagery.
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- DesertVarnish 11mo agoLargely but not entirely a data problem; specifically poor captioning. High quality captioning makes such a big difference.
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- nerdjon 11mo agoDid... someone make a bot to try to post a summary to HN with an LLM that also completely fails at being accurate (which is incredibly fitting given what the topic here is)
- saretup 11mo agoInteresting they didn’t post any benchmark results - lmarena/artificial analysis etc. I would’ve thought they’d be testing it behind the scenes the same way they did with Gemini 3.
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- maliker 11mo agoI wonder how hard it is to remove that SynthID watermark... Looks like: "When tested on images marked with Google’s SynthID, the technique used in the example images above, Kassis says that UnMarker successfully removed 79 percent of watermarks." From https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-watermark-remover https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-watermark-remover
- mudkipdev 11mo agoWe know what it looks like at least https://www.reddit.com/r/nanobanana/comments/1o1tvbm/nano_bananas_watermark/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nanobanana/comments/1o1tvbm/nano_ba...
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- myth_drannon 11mo agoAdobe's stock is down 50% from last year's peak. It's humbling and scary that entire industries with millions of jobs evaporate in a matter of few years.
- riskable 11mo agoOn the contrary, it's encouraging to know that maliciously greedy companies like Adobe are getting screwed for being so malicious and greedy :thumbsup: I had second thoughts about this comment, but if I stopped typing in the middle of it, I would've had to pay a cancellation fee.
- creata 11mo agoAdobe, for all their faults, can hardly be said to be more malicious or greedy than Google. Adobe, at least, makes money by selling software. Google makes money by capturing eyeballs; only incidentally does anything they do benefit the user.
- s1mon 11mo agoAdobe makes money by renting software, not selling it. There are many creatives that would disagree with your ranking of who is more malicious or greedy.
- cj 11mo agoThere's 2 takes here: First take is the AI is replacing jobs by making existing workforce more efficient. The 2nd take is AI is costing companies so much money, that they need to cut workforce to pay for their AI investments. I'm inclined to think the latter is represents what's happening more than the former.
- willsmith72 11mo ago> Starting to roll out in the Gemini API and Google AI Studio > Rolling out globally in the Gemini app wanna be any more vague? is it out or not? where? when?
- koakuma-chan 11mo agoI don't see in the ai studio
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- WawaFin 11mo agoI see it but when I use it says "Failed to count tokens, model not found: models/gemini-3-pro-image-preview. Please try again with a different model."
- Archonical 11mo agoPhased rollouts are fairly common in the industry.
- ZeroCool2u 11mo agoAlready available in the Gemini web app for me. I have the normal Pro subscription.
- meetpateltech 11mo agoCurrently, it’s rolling out in the Gemini app. When you use the “Create image” option, you’ll see a tooltip saying “Generating image with Nano Banana Pro.” And in AI Studio, you need to connect a paid API key to use it: https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-pro-image-preview https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-3-... > Nano Banana Pro is only available for paid-tier users. Link a paid API key to access higher rate limits, advanced features, and more.
- theoldgreybeard 11mo agoThe interesting tidbit here is SynthID. While a good first step, it doesn't solve the problem of AI generated content NOT having any kind of watermark. So we can prove that something WITH the ID is AI generated but we can't prove that something without one ISN'T AI generated. Like it would be nice if all photo and video generated by the big players would have some kind of standardized identifier on them - but now you're left with the bajillion other "grey market" models that won't give a damn about that.
- morkalork 11mo agoLabelling open source models as "grey market" is a heck of a presumption
- theoldgreybeard 11mo agoIt's why I used "scare quotes".
- bigfishrunning 11mo agoEvery model is "grey market". They're all trained on data without complying with any licensing terms that may exist, be they proprietary or copyleft. Every major AI model is an instance of IP theft.
- markdog12 11mo agoI asked Gemini "dymamic view" how SynthID works: https://gemini.google.com/share/62fb0eb38e6b https://gemini.google.com/share/62fb0eb38e6b
- slashdev 11mo agoIf there was a standardized identifier, there would be software dedicated to just removing it. I don't see how it would defeat the cat and mouse game.
- paulryanrogers 11mo agoIt doesn't have to be perfect to be helpful. For example, it's trivial to post an advertisement without disclosure. Yet it's illegal, so large players mostly comply and harm is less likely on the whole.
- dangoodmanUT 11mo agoI've had nano banana pro for a few weeks now, and it's the most impressive AI model I've ever seen The inline verification of images following the prompt is awesome, and you can do some _amazing_ stuff with it. It's probably not as fun anymore though (in the early access program, it doesn't have censoring!)
- echelon 11mo agoLLMs might be a dead end, but we're going to have amazing images, video, and 3D. To me the AI revolution is making visual media (and music) catch up with the text-based revolution we've had since the dawn of computing. Computers accelerated typing and text almost immediately, but we've had really crude tools for images, video, and 3D despite graphics and image processing algorithms. AI really pushes the envelope here. I think images/media alone could save AI from "the bubble" as these tools enable everyone to make incredible content if you put the work into it. Everyone now has the ingredients of Pixar and a music production studio in their hands. You just need to learn the tools and put the hours in and you can make chart-topping songs and Hollywood grade VFX. The models won't get you there by themselves, but using them in conjunction with other tools and understanding as to what makes good art - that can and will do it. Screw ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and the rest. This is the exciting part of AI.
- dangoodmanUT 11mo agoI wouldn’t call LLMs a dead end, they’re so useful as-is
- echelon 11mo agoLLMs are useful, but they've hit a wall on the path to automating our jobs. Benchmark scores are just getting better at test taking. I don't see them replacing software engineers without overcoming obstacles. AI for images, video, music - these tools can already make movies, games, and music today with just a little bit of effort by domain experts. They're 10,000x time and cost savers. The models and tools are continuing to get better on an obvious trend line.
- ZeroCool2u 11mo agoI tried the studio ghibli prompt on a photo my me and my wife in Japan and it was... not good. It looked more like a hand drawn sketch made with colored pencils, but none of the colors were correct. Everything was a weird shade of yellow/brown. This has been an oddly difficult benchmark for Gemini's NB models. Googles images models have always been pretty bad at the studio ghibli prompt, but I'm shocked at how poorly it performs at this task still.
- jeffbee 11mo agoI wonder ... do you think they might not be chasing that particular metric?
- ZeroCool2u 11mo agoSure! But it's weird how far off it is in terms of capability.
- skocznymroczny 11mo agoCould be they are specifically training against it. There was some controversy about "studio ghibli style". Similarly how in the early days of Stable Diffusion "Greg Rutkowski style" was a very popular prompt to get a specific look. These days modern Stable Diffusion based models like SD 3 or FLUX mostly removed references to specific artists from their datasets.
- xnx 11mo agoYou might try it again with style transfer: 1 image of style to apply to 1 target image
- ZeroCool2u 11mo agoThis is a good idea, will give it a try!
- wnevets 11mo agodoes it handle transparency yet?
- niwrad 11mo agoThis is a good question -- I've wanted transparency from image models for a while. One work around is to ask for a "green screen" and to key out the background but it doesn't always work very cleanly.
- wnevets 11mo ago> One work around is to ask for a "green screen" and to key out the background but it doesn't always work very cleanly. I recently tried that and the model (not nano pro) added the green background as a gradient.
- Shalomboy 11mo agoThe SynthID check for fishy photos is a step in the right direction, but without tighter integration into everyday tooling its not going to move the needle much. Like when I hold the power button on my Pixel 9, It would be great if it could identify synthetic images on the screen before I think to ask about it. For what its worth it would be great if the power button shortcut on Pixel did a lot more things.
- Deathmax 11mo agoYou sort of can on Android, but it's a few steps: 1. Trigger Circle to Search with long holding the home button/bar 2. Select the image 3. Navigate to About this image on the Google search top bar all the way to the right - check if it says "Made by Google AI" - which means it detected the SynthID watermark.
- scottlamb 11mo agoThe rollout doesn't seem to have reached my userid yet. How successful are people at getting these things to actually produce useful images? I was trying recently with the (non-Pro) Nano Banana to see what the fuss was about. As a test case, I tried to get it to make a diagram of a zipper merge (in driving), using numbered arrows to indicate what the first, second, third, etc. cars should do. I had trouble reliably getting it to... * produce just two lanes of traffic * have all the cars facing the same way—sometimes even within one lane they'd be facing in opposite directions. * contain the construction within the blocked-off area. I think similarly it wouldn't understand which side was supposed to be blocked off. It'd also put the lane closure sign in lanes that were supposed to be open. * have the cars be in proportion to the lane and road instead of two side-by-side within a lane. * have the arrows go in the correct direction instead of veering into the shoulder or U-turning back into oncoming traffic * use each number once, much less on the correct car This is consistent with my understanding of how LLMs work, but I don't understand how you can "visualize real-time information like weather or sports" accurately with these failings. Below is one of the prompts I tried to go from scratch to an image: > You are an illustrator for a drivers' education handbook. You are an expert on US road signage and traffic laws. We need to prepare a diagram of a "zipper merge". It should clearly show what drivers are expected to do, without distracting elements. > First, draw two lanes representing a single direction of travel from the bottom to the top of the image (not an entire two-way road), with a dotted white line dividing them. Make sure there's enough space for the several car-lengths approaching a construction site. Include only the illustration; no title or legend. > Add the construction in the right lane only near the top (far side). It should have the correct signage for lane closure and merging to the left as drivers approach a demolished section. The left lane should be clear. The sign should be in the closed lane or right shoulder. > Add cars in the unclosed sections of the road. Each car should be almost as wide as its lane. > Add numbered arrows #1–#5 indicating the next cars to pass to the left of the "lane closed" sign. They should be in the direction the cars will move: from the bottom of the illustration to the top. One car should proceed straight in the left lane, then one should merge from the right to the left (indicate this with a curved arrow), another should proceed straight in the left, another should merge, and so on. I did have a bit better luck starting from a simple image and adding an element to it with each prompt. But on the other hand, when I did that it wouldn't do as well at keeping space for things. And sometimes it just didn't make any changes to the image at all. A lot of dead ends. I also tried sketching myself and having it change the illustration style. But it didn't do it completely. It turned some of my boxes into cars but not necessarily all of them. It drew a "proper" lane divider over my thin dotted line but still kept the original line. etc.
- throwacct 11mo agoGoogle needs to pace themselves. AI studio, Antigravity, Banana, Banana Pro, Grape Ultra, Gemini 3, etc. This information overload don't do them any good whatsoever.
- reddalo 11mo agoIt reminds me of AWS services: I can't tell what they are because they've been named by a monkey with a typewriter.
- arecsu 11mo agoAgree. I can't keep up with it, it's hard to grasp my head around them, where to go to actually use them, etc
- jasonjmcghee 11mo agoGrape Ultra?
- throwacct 11mo agoThat part was a joke to illustrate the point.
- jiggawatts 11mo agohttps://aienergydrink.ai/products/grape-ultra https://aienergydrink.ai/products/grape-ultra
- xnx 11mo agoPowell Doctrine, but for AI. No one should dispute that Google is the leader in every(?) category of AI: LLM, image gen, video editing, world models, etc.
- shevy-java 11mo agoThey are riding the current buzzword wave. It'll eventually subside. And 80% of it will end up on Google's impressive software graveyard: https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- simianparrot 11mo agoWhat is up with these product names!? Antigravity? Nano Banana? Not just are they making slop machines, they seem to be run by them. I am too old for this shit.
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- evrenesat 11mo agoI've tried to repaint the exterior of my house. More than 20 times with very detailed prompts. I even tried to optimize it with Claude. No matter what, every time it added one, two or three extra windows to the same wall.
- cj 11mo agoI tried this in AI studio just now with nano banana. Results: https://imgur.com/a/9II0Aip https://imgur.com/a/9II0Aip The white house was the original (random photo from Google). The prompt was "What paint color would look nice? Paint the house."
- vunderba 11mo agoGuess they ran out of paint - notice the upper window.
- cj 11mo agoOops. Original link wasn't using the Pro version. Edited the comment with an updated link.
- swatcoder 11mo ago> (random photo from Google) Careful with that kind of thing. Here, it mostly poisons your test, because that exact photo probably exists in the underlying training data and the trained network will be more or less optimized on working with it. It's really the same consideration you'd want to make when testing classifiers or other ML techs 10 years ago. Most people taking to a task like this will be using an original photo -- missing entirely from any training date, poorly framed, unevenly lit, etc -- and you need to be careful to capture as much of that as possible when trying to evaluate how a model will work in that kind of use case. The failure and stress points for AI tools are generally kind of alien and unfamiliar because the way they operate is totally different than the way a human operates, and if you're not especially attentive to their weird failure shapes and biases when you want to test them, or you'll easily get false positives (and false negatives) that lead you to misleading conclusions.
- vunderba 11mo agoI'll be running it through my GenAI Comparison benchmark shortly - but so far it seems to be failing on the same tests that the original Nano Banana struggled with (such as SHRDLU). https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing
- jasonjmcghee 11mo agoMaybe I'm an obscure case, but I'm just not sure what I'd use an image generation model for. For people that use them (regularly or not), what do you use them for?
- vunderba 11mo agoMostly highly specific images in blog posts but I also use it for occasional comics. https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/gorgonzo https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/gorgonzo https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/brawny-tortillas https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/brawny-tortillas https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/ms-frizzle-lava https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/ms-frizzle-lava
- jasonjmcghee 11mo agoI'm kind of reading between the lines, but sounds like "for fun" which makes sense / what I generally expected for why people use it
- vunderba 11mo agoI think that's a fair assessment. I write a lot of bizarre fiction in my spare time, so Text2Image tools are a fun way to see my visions visualized. Like this one: A piano where the keyboard is wrapped in a circular interface surrounding a drummer's stool connected to a motor that spins the seat, with a foot-operated pedal to control rotation speed for endless glissandos.
- cj 11mo agoRandom examples: 1) I have a tricep tendon injury and ChatGPT wants me to check my tricep reflex. I have no idea where on the elbow you're supposed to tap to trigger the reflex. 2) I'm measuring my body fat using skin fold calipers. Show me were the measurement sites are. 3) I'm going hiking. Remind me how to identify poison ivy and dangerous snakes. 4) What would I look like with a buzz cut?
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- shevy-java 11mo agoNot gonna lie - this is pretty cool. But ... it comes from Google. My goal is to eventually degoogle completely. I am not going to add any more dependency - I am way too annoyed at having to use the search engine (getting constantly worse though), google chrome (long story ...) and youtube. I'll eventually find solutions to these.
- H1Supreme 11mo agoThis is really impressive. As a former designer, I'm equally excited that people will be able to generate images like this with a prompt, and sad that there will be much less incentive for people to explore design / "photoshopping" as a craft or a career. At the end of the day, a tool is a tool, and the computer had the same effect on the creative industry when people started using them in place of illustrating by hand, typesetting by hand, etc. I don't want my personal bias to get in the way too much, but every nail that AI hammers into the creative industry's coffin is hard to witness.
- anilgulecha 11mo agoI feel you. Infact, IMO, SWE1 level coding industry seems to be a couple years lagging on this aspect. The trouble is that learning fundamentals now is a large trough to go past, just the way grade 3-10 children learn their math fundamentals despite there being calculators. It's no longer "easy mode" in creative careers.
- ruralfam 11mo agoJust last night I was using Gemini "Fast" to test its output for a unique image we would have used in some consumer research if there had been a good stock image back in the day. I have been testing this prompt since the early days of AI images. The improvement in quality has been pretty remarkable for the same prompt. Composition across this time has been consistent. What I initially thought was "good enough" now is... fantastic. Just so many little details got more life-like w/ each new generation. Funnily enough, our images must be 3:2 aspect ratio. I kept asking GFast to change its square Fast output to 3:2. It kept saying it would, but each image was square or nearly square. GFast in the end was very apologetic, and said it would alert about this issue. Today I read that GPro does aspect ratios. Tried the same prompt again burning up some "Thinking" credits, and got another fantastically life-like image in 3:2. We have a new project coming up. We have relied entirely on stock or in some cases custom shot images to date. Now, apart from the time needed to get the prompts right whilst meeting with the client, I cannot see how stock or custom images can compete. I mean the GPro images -- again which is very specific to an unusual prompt -- is just "Wow". Want to emphasize again -- we are looking for specific details that many would not. So the thoughts above are specific to this. Still, while many faults can be found with AI, Nano Banana is certainly proven itself to me. edit: I was thinking about this, and am not sure I even saw Pro3 as my image option last night. Today it was clearly there.
- jimlayman 11mo agoTime to expand my creation catalog. Lets see what we can get of out this pro version. It seems this week is for big AI announcements from Google
- anentropic 11mo agoIs there an "in joke" to this name that I am too old to get? Or it's just a whimsically random name?
- dullcrisp 11mo agoI believe it’s an internal code name that stuck.
- Jowsey 11mo agoTo expand, it comes from the stealth name it was given on LMArena I believe. The model made news while still in "stealth mode" and so Google capitalised on the PR they'd already built around that and just launched it officially with the same name.
- anentropic 11mo agoI see, naturally this is the first I've heard of it ;)
- kraig911 11mo agonano banano pronano.
- mmaunder 11mo agoOh what a day. What a lovely day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mZ0_jor2_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mZ0_jor2_k Honestly I think this is exactly how we're all feeling right now. Racing towards an unknown horizon in a nitrous powered dragster surrounded by fire tornadoes.
- ovo101 11mo agoNano Banana Pro sounds like classic Google branding: quirky name, serious tech underneath. I’m curious whether the “Pro” here is about actual professional‑grade features or just marketing polish. Either way, it’s another reminder that naming can shape expectations as much as specs.
- minimaxir 11mo agoI...worked on the detailed Nano Banana prompt engineering analysis for months (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45917875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45917875)...and...Google just...Google released a new version. Nano Banana Pro should work with my gemimg package (https://github.com/minimaxir/gemimg https://github.com/minimaxir/gemimg) without pushing a new version by passing: g = GemImg(model="gemini-3-pro-image-preview") I'll add the new output resolutions and other features ASAP. However, looking at the pricing (https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/pricing#standard_1 https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/pricing#standard_1), I'm definitely not changing the default model to Pro as $0.13 per 1k/2k output will make it a tougher sell. EDIT: Something interesting in the docs: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/image-generation#thinking-process https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/image-generation#think... > The model generates up to two interim images to test composition and logic. The last image within Thinking is also the final rendered image. Maybe that's partially why the cost is higher: it's hard to tell if intermediate images are billed in addition to the output. However, this could cause an issue with the base gemimg and have it return an intermediate image instead of the final image depending on how the output is constructed, so will need to double-check.
- sandGorgon 11mo agothis is pretty cool! have you found success with image editing in nano banana - i mean photoshop-like stuff. from your article i seem to wonder if nano banana is good for editing versus generating new images.
- vunderba 11mo agoThat IS the use-case for Nano Banana (as opposed to pure generative like Imagen4). In my benchmarks, Nano-Banana scores a 7 out of 12. Seedream4 managed to outpace it, but Seedream can also introduce slight tone mapping variations. NB is the gold standard for highly localized edits. Comparisons of Seedream4, NanoBanana, gpt-image-1, etc. https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing
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- srameshc 11mo agoMy experience with Nano Banana is to constantly get consistent image when dealing with muliple objects in a image, I mean creating consistent sequence etc. We spent a lot of money trying but eventully gave up. If it is easier in Pro, then probably it stands a chance.
- jdoliner 11mo agoIt's a funny juxtaposition to slap the "Pro" label on it which makes it sound more enterprisey but leave the name as Nano Banana.
- mortenjorck 11mo agoThis is the first image model I’ve used that passed my piano test. It actually generated an image of a keyboard with the proper pattern of black keys repeated per octave – every other model I’ve tried this with since the first Dall-E has struggled to render more than a single octave, usually clumping groups of two black keys or grouping them four at a time. Very impressive grasp of recursive patterns.
- vunderba 11mo agoPeriodic motion (groups of repeating patterns) always tend to degrade at some point. Maintaining coherence over 88 keys is impressive.
- crat3r 11mo agoIf you ask it for anything outside of the standard 88 key set it falls short. For instance "Generate a piano, but have the left most key start at middle C, and the notes continue in the standard order up (D, E, F, G, ...) to the right most key" The above prompt will be wrong, seemingly every time. The model has no understanding of the keys or where they belong, and it is not able to intuit creating something within the actual confines of how piano notes are patterned. "Generate a piano but color every other D key red" This also wrong, every time, with seemingly random keys being colored. I would imagine that a keyboard is difficult to render (to some extent) but I also don't think its particularly interesting since it is a fully standardized object with millions of pictures from all angles in existence to learn from right?
- vunderba 11mo agoYep - one of my goto bench marks is a "historical piano" - meaning the naturals are black and the sharps/flats are white. https://imgur.com/a/SZbzsYv https://imgur.com/a/SZbzsYv
- skybrian 11mo agoI got one pass and one fail, then ran out of quota.
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoWow! I was able to combine Nano Banana Pro and Veo 3.1 video generation in a single chat and it produced great results. https://chat.vlm.run/c/38b99710-560c-4967-839b-4578a4146956 https://chat.vlm.run/c/38b99710-560c-4967-839b-4578a4146956. Really cool model
- vunderba 11mo agoNeat use-case, though the sword literally telescopically inverts itself at the beginning of the scene like a light saber where you would have expected it to be drawn from its scabbard. I'd be interested to see how Wan 2.2 First/Last frame handles those images though...
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoyeah sadly veo 3.1 has not caught up to the image generation capabilities. May be we need to work on how to make video generation more physically consistent. but the image generation results from banana pro are great.
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoanother interesting use case with synth https://chat.vlm.run/c/1c726fab-04ef-47cc-923d-cb3b005d6262 https://chat.vlm.run/c/1c726fab-04ef-47cc-923d-cb3b005d6262. made a puppet from a image of a model and made the puppet dance.
- djmips 11mo agoThe feet are doing unusual movements. Reminds me of leaf node cumulative error in overcompressed hierarchical animation.
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoyeah the video models still do not understand physics the way humans do. We are getting there one step at a time. By the way, I am seeing a lot of people complain about google billing not working well. I was able to generate these for free without signing. Look at the results and try to come up with your own failure and working use cases.
- simonw 11mo agoThis thing's ability to produce entire infographics from a short prompt is really impressive, especially since it can run extra Google searches first. I tried this prompt: Infographic explaining how the Datasette open source project works Here's the result: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/20/nano-banana-pro/#creating-an-infographic https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/20/nano-banana-pro/#creat...
- arresin 11mo agoIs the infographic accurate in terms of the way datasette wprks?
- OtherShrezzing 11mo agoIt’s subtly incorrect. R/w permissions for example are described incorrectly on some nodes.
- mikepurvis 11mo agoThen the question becomes, can it incorporate targeted feedback, or is it a oneshot-or-bust affair? My experience is that ChatGPT is very good at iterating on text (prose, code) but fairly bad at iterating on images. It struggles to integrate small changes, choosing instead to start over from scratch, with wildly different results. Thinking especially here of architectural stuff, where it does a great job laying out furniture in a room, but when I ask it to keep everything the same but change the colour of one piece, it goes completely off the rails.
- spike021 11mo agoI would assume it depends on how it generates the images. I've used Claude to generate fairly simple icons and launch images for an iOS game and I make sure to have it start with SVG files since those can be defined as code first. This way it's easier to iterate on specific elements of the image (certain shapes need to be moved to a different position, color needs to be changed, text needs an update, etc.). FWIW not sure how Nano Banana Pro works though.
- sd9 11mo agoIt's crazy how good these models are at text now. Remember when text was literally impossible? Now the models can diagetically render any text. It's so good now that it seems like a weird blip that it _wasn't_ possible before. Not to mention all the other stuff.
- psygn89 11mo agoI agree, it's improving by leaps. I'm still patiently awaiting for my niche use of creating new icons though, one that can match the existing curvature, weight, spacing, and balance. It seems AI is struggling in the overlap of visuals <-> code, or perhaps there's less business incentive to train on that front. I know the pelican on bicycle svg is getting better, but still really rough looking and hard to modify with prompt versus just spending some time upfront to do it yourself in an editor.
- glemmaPaul 11mo agoI wonder; do you think these LLMs now rather have text tools, or is this still straight out of the neural network? If its the latter, thats incredibly impressive.
- bilsbie 11mo agoI’ve been struggling with infographics. That’s my main use case but every tool seems to bungle the text.
- stefl14 11mo agoFirst model I've seen that was consistently compositional, easily handling requests like “Generate an image of an african elephant painted in the New England flag, doing a backflip in front of the russian federal assembly.” OpenAI made the biggest step change towards compositionality in image generation when they started directly generating image tokens for decoders from foundation llms, and it worked very well (openais images were better in this regard than nano banana 1, but struggled with some OOD images like elephants doing backflips), but banana 2 nails this stuff in a way I haven't seen anywhere else if video follows the same trends as images in terms of prompt adherence, that will be very valuable... and interesting
- TheAceOfHearts 11mo agoYou can try it out for free on LMArena [0]: New Chat -> Battle dropdown -> Direct Chat -> Click on Generate Image in the chat box -> Click dropdown from hunyuan-image-3.0 -> gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro). I've only managed to get a few prompts to go through, if it takes longer than 30 seconds it seems to just time out. Image quality seems to vary wildly; the first image I tried looked really good but then I tried to refresh a few times and it kept getting worse. [0] lmarena.ai/
- scottlamb 11mo agoWhen I do that, I get two (very similar but not identical) responses side-by-side in one image (I guess as if the model is battling itself?). Is that normal for lmarena? https://imgur.com/a/h0ncCFN https://imgur.com/a/h0ncCFN
- RobinL 11mo agoThanks - this worked for me (some errors, some success). Last week I was making a birthday card for my son with the old model. The new model is dramatically better - I'm asking for an image in comic book style, prompted with some images of him. With the previous model, the boy was descriptively similar (e.g. hair colour and style) but looked nothing like him. With this model it's recognisably him.
- Fiveplus 11mo agoWhat can nano-banana do that chatGPT made images can't? Or is it only better for image editing from what I can gather from these comments so far. I haven't used it so genuinely curious.
- minimaxir 11mo agoI made some direct comparisons my Nano Banana post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45917875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45917875) but Nano Banana can handle photorealistic photos with nuanced prompts much better. And there is no yellow filter.
- Fiveplus 11mo agoAbsolutely amazing pose, thanks for sharing!
- sosodev 11mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45890186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45890186
- Fiveplus 11mo agoThanks!
- seanw444 11mo ago> Nano Banana Pro is the best model for creating images with correctly rendered and legible text directly in the image
- embedding-shape 11mo agoI tried the same prompt as one of the examples (https://i.imgur.com/iQTPJzz.png https://i.imgur.com/iQTPJzz.png), in the two ways they say you can run it, via Google Gemini and Google AI Studio (I suppose they're different somehow?). The prompt was "Create an infographic that shows hot to make elaichi chai" and Google Gemini created a infographic (https://i.imgur.com/aXlRzTR.png https://i.imgur.com/aXlRzTR.png), but it was all different from what the example showed. Google AI Studio instead created a interactive website, again with different directions: https://i.imgur.com/OjBKTkJ.png https://i.imgur.com/OjBKTkJ.png There is not a single mention about accuracy, risks or anything else in the blogpost, just how awesome the thing is. It's clearly not meant to be reliable just yet, but not making this clear up front. Isn't this almost intentionally misleading people, something that should be illegal?
- nerveband 11mo agoWhoever said there was a universal recipe for Elaichi Chai? It makes sense that there would be different recipes. If you are more stringent with the prompt and give it the proper context of what you want the steps to be, you'll arrive at that consistency.
- jessegeens 11mo agoIf it were illegal to intentionally mislead people, many magicians would be out of a job :)
- mattmaroon 11mo agoNano Banana has been the only model I’ve really loved. As a small businesses who makes products, it’s been a game changer on the marketing side. Now when I’ve got something new I need to advertise in a hurry, I take a crappy pic and fix it in that. Don’t have a perfect model ready yet? That’s ok, I can just alter to look exactly like it will. What used to cost money and involve wait time is now free and instant.
- ashleyn 11mo agoDoes anyone know if this is predicting the entire image at once, or if it's breaking it into constituent steps i.e. "draw text in this font at this location" and then composing it from those "tools"? It would be really interesting if they've solved the garbled text problem within the constraint of predicting the entire image at once.
- johnecheck 11mo agoI strongly suspect it's the latter, though someone please chime in if I'm wrong. Even so, this is a real advancement. It's impressive to see existing techniques combined to meaningfully improve on SOTA image generation.
- scoopertrooper 11mo agoThe previous nano banana was using composing tools. It was really obvious by some of the janky outputs it made. Not sure about this one, but presumably they built off it.
- teaearlgraycold 11mo agoI’m pretty sure, but no expert on the matter, that correct text rendering was solved by feeding in bitmaps of rasterized fonts as supplemental context to the image generation models.
- FergusArgyll 11mo agoThere still is some garbled text sometimes so it can't be the latter (try to get it to generate a map of 48 us states labeled - the ones that are too small to write on and need arrows were garbled (1 attempt))
- jayd16 11mo agoI was just playing with the non-pro version of this and it seems to add both a Gemini and Disney watermark. Presumably this was because I referenced beauty and the beast. Anyone know if this is an hallucination or if they have some kind of deal with content owners to add branding?
- smusamashah 11mo agoThis is what the SynthID signature looks like on Nano Banana images https://www.reddit.com/r/nanobanana/comments/1o1tvbm/nano_bananas_watermark/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nanobanana/comments/1o1tvbm/nano_ba... And if it can be seen like that, it should be removeable too. There are more examples in that thread.
- isoprophlex 11mo agoIf only there was a straightforward way to pay google to use this, with a not entirely insane UX...
- standardly 11mo agoAnyone else think "Nano Banana" is an awful name? For some reason it really annoys me. It looks incredibly fancy, though.
- egypturnash 11mo agoEveryone who worked on this is a traitor to the human race. Why do we need to make it impossible to make a living as an artist? Who thinks an endless tsunami of garbage “content” churned out by machines dropping the bottom out of all artistic disciplines is a good idea?
- deviation 11mo agoCapitalism, at work. Wherever there is a cost, there will be attempts made at cost efficiency. Google understands that hiring designers or artists is expensive, and they want to offer a cheaper, more effective alternative so that they can capture the market. In a coffee shop this morning I saw a lady drawing tulips with a paper and pencil. It was beautiful, and I let her know... But as I walked away I felt sad that I don't feel that when browsing online anymore- because I remember how impressive it used to feel to see an epic render, or an oil painting, etc... I've been turned cynical.
- apt-apt-apt-apt 11mo agoOn the flip side, it can be good for the environment. Instead of spending tons of resources burning a car or doing a bunch of setup to get a shot, we can prompt it using relatively fewer energy resources.
- user34283 11mo agoI do. Free art for everyone, and it's great.
- CamperBob2 11mo agoB...b...b...but the gate! There's nobody guarding the gate!
- cheema33 11mo ago> Everyone who worked on this is a traitor to the human race. Have we felt this way for all other large scale advances in human history?
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- CSMastermind 11mo agoThere's some really impressive things about this (the speed, the lack of typical AI image gen artifacts) but it also seems less creative than other models I've tried? "mountain dew themed pokemon" is the first search prompt I always try with new image models and Nano Banna Pro just gave me a green pikachu. Other models do a much better job of creating something new.
- vunderba 11mo agoIMHO I'd rather them focus on strong literal prompt adherence so that more detailed prompts produce more accurate results. That way you can stick your choice of any number of LLM preprocessors in front of a generic prompt like "mountain dew themed pokemon" and push the responsibility of creating a more detailed prompt upstream. https://imgur.com/a/s5zfxS5 https://imgur.com/a/s5zfxS5 Note: I'm not particularly impressed with either of the results - this is more a demonstration.
- Bjorkbat 11mo agoSomething I find weird about AI image generation models is that even though they no longer produce weird "artifacts" that give away that the fact that it was AI generated, you can still recognize that it's AI due to stylistic choices. Not all examples they gave were like this. The example they gave of the word "Typography" would have fooled me as human-made. The infographics stood out though. I would have immediately noticed that the String of Turtles infographic was AI generated because of the stylistic choices. Same for the guide on how to make chai. I would be "suspicious" of the example they gave of the weather forecast but wouldn't immediately flag at as AI generated. Similar note, earlier I was able to tell if something was AI generated right off the bat by noticing that it had a "Deviant Art" quality to it. My immediate guess is that certain sources of training data are over-represented.
- snek_case 11mo agoI think it's because they're all trained on the same data (everything they could possibly scrape from the open web). The models tend to learn some kind of distribution of what is most likely for a given prompt. It tends to produce things that are very average looking, very "likely", but as a result also predictable and unoriginal. If you want something that looks original, you have to come up with a more original prompt. Or we have to find a way to train these models to sample things that are less likely from their distribution? Find a way to mathematically describe what it means to be original.
- Terretta 11mo agoIf you ever had a pinterest account and a deviant art account, all becomes clear.
- dkural 11mo agoDo you know of some tools with a parameter that asks it to be "weird" and increase diversity of outputs?
- Yokohiii 11mo agoIf you want a chance for real creativity, flexibility and you have a decent gpu go local. Check out comfyui, download models and play around. The mainstream services have zero knobs to play around with, local is infinite.
- ceroxylon 11mo agoGoogle has been stomping around like Godzilla this week, and this is the first time I decided to link my card to their AI studio. I had seen people saying that they gave up and went to another platform because it was "impossible to pay". I thought this was strange, but after trying to get a working API key for the past half hour, I see what they mean. Everything is set up, I see a message that says "You're using Paid API key [NanoBanano] as part of [NanoBanano]. All requests sent in this session will be charged." Go to prompt, and I get a "permission denied" error. There is no point in having impressive models if you make it a chore for me to -give you my money-
- wheelerwj 11mo ago100% this. I am using the pro/max plans on both claude and openai. Would love to experiment with gemini but paying is next to impossible. Why do i need the risk of a full blown gcp project just to test gemini. No thx.
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- logankilpatrick 11mo agoYou can test gemini in 3 clicks at https://ai.studio https://ai.studio
- vunderba 11mo agoIf it's just the API you're interested in, Fal.ai has put Nano-Banana-Pro up for both generative and editing. A great deal less annoying to sign up for them since they're a pretty generalized provider of lots of AI related models. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro
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- bespokedevelopr 11mo agoIt’s interesting, I’m trying to use it to create a themed collage by providing a few images and it does that wonderfully, but in the process it is also hallucinating the images I use so I end up with weird distorted faces. Other tools can do this without issue, but something about faces in images this model just has to modify them every time. Ask it to remove background objects and the faces get distorted as well. Using it for non-people involved images and it’s pretty good although I haven’t done much and it isn’t doing anything 2.5-flash wasn’t already doing in the same amount of requests.
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoIf Nano-Banana-pro with Veo 3.1 existed during my PhD, I would’ve finished a 6-year dissertation in a single year — it’s generating ideas today that used to take me 18 months just to convince people were possible.
- zachwass4856 11mo agoThe person in the background's face is odd haha
- sealeck 11mo agoWhat was your dissertation, and how would Nano-Banana-pro with Veo 3.1 have helped it?
- visioninmyblood 11mo agoI was working on semantic segmentation. used to spend a long time creating graphics for presenting at conferences. I had a link showing the results but people were saying i was sharing too many links so deleted the link. But these tools with chatgpt can write a paper in a week which i used to take 6 months to do
- Aman_Kalwar 11mo agoReally interesting. Curious what the main design motivation behind this project was and what gaps it fills compared to existing tools?
- sarbajitsaha 11mo agoSlightly off topic, but how are people creating long videos like 30 second videos that I often see on Instagram? It I try to use Veo to make split videos, it simply cannot maintain the style or weird quirks get into the subsequent videos. Is there anything else that's the best video generation model currently other than Veo?
- spaceman_2020 11mo agoLonger videos without cuts are usually made from the first/last frame feature available in Veo 3.1 and other video models like Kling 2.5
- gajus 11mo agoWill be interesting to see how this model performs in real-world creative tasks. https://creativearena.ai/ https://creativearena.ai/
- cyrusradfar 11mo agoI really hope Google reads these HN posts. They've had some big "product" wins but the pricing, packaging, and user system is a severe blocker to growth. If developers can't or won't figure it out -- how the heck are consumers?
- energy123 11mo agoAnd both their consumer apps are slow. You can replicate this yourself. Go to AI Studio, paste in 80K tokens of text, then type something on your keyboard, and see what happens. The Gemini web app is even worse somehow. A horrifically slow and buggy app. Not new problems either, barely any improvement on this over more than 1 year.
- indigodaddy 11mo agoI don't understand the excitement around generating and/or watching AI-produced videos. To me it's probably the single most uninteresting and boring thing related to AI that I can think of. What is the appeal?
- jsphweid 11mo agoPretty sure Nano Banana only produces images. Nonetheless, ask it to “create an infographic on how Google works”. Do you not see any excitement in the result? I think it’s pretty impressive and has a lot of utility.
- t-writescode 11mo agoUntil people ask it to make convincing misinformation. Pretty, professional looking graphs are already hard to resist.
- tyurok 11mo agoAs a general content I agree it's a bit off putting, but I find it a lot of fun when generating content among friends like internal jokes and educational content. I got my kid to drink some meds by generating an image of a hero telling him it's important to take.
- bitpush 11mo agoDo you feel the same way about VFX (marvel etc) or animated movies (pixar etc)
- chaosprint 11mo agoIn my limited testing, at least in terms of maintaining consistency between input and output for Asian faces, it has even regressed. Actually, Gemini 3 is about the same, and doesn't feel as good as Claude 4.5. I have a feeling it's been fine-tuned for a cool front-end marketing effect. Furthermore, I really don't understand why AI Studio, now requiring me to use its own API for payment, still adds a watermark.
- vunderba 11mo agoAlright results are in! I've re-run all my editing based adherence related prompts through Nano Banana Pro. NB Pro managed to successfully pass SHRDLU, the M&M Van Halen test (as verified independently by Simon), and the Scorpio street test - all of which the original NB failed. Model results 1. Nano Banana Pro: 10 / 12 2. Seedream4: 9 / 12 3. Nano Banana: 7 / 12 4. Qwen Image Edit: 6 / 12 https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing If you just want to see how NB and NB Pro compare against each other: https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing?models=nb,nbp https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing?models=nb,nbp
- Wyverald 11mo agothanks, I love your website. Are you planning to do NB Pro for the text-to-image benchmark too?
- vunderba 11mo agoDefinitely! Even though NB's predominant use case seems to be editing, it's still producing surprisingly decent text-to-image results. Imagen4 currently still comes out ahead in terms of image fidelity, but I think NB Pro will close the gap even further. I'll try to have the generative comparisons for NB Pro up later this afternoon once I catch my breath.
- vunderba 11mo agoOutside the time frame of being able to edit my original reply, but I've finally re-run the Text-to-Image portion of the site through NB Pro. Results gpt-image-1: 10 / 12 Nano Banana Pro: 9 / 12 Nano Banana: 8 / 12 It's worth mentioning that even though it only scored slightly better than the original NB, many of the images are significantly better looking. https://genai-showdown.specr.net?models=nb,nbp https://genai-showdown.specr.net?models=nb,nbp
- Wyverald 11mo agothanks for the update. One small note: for the d20 test, NB Pro had duplications of 13 and 17 too, not just 19.
- Nemi 11mo agoI feel like I am going crazy or missed something simple but when I use the Gemini app and I ask it to edit a photo that I upload, 2.5 flash works really well but 2.5 pro or 3.0 pro do a very poor job. I uploaded an image of me and asked it to make me bald and flash did a great job of just changing me in the photo but 3.0 pro took me out of the photo completely and just created a headshot of a bald man that only sort of resembled me. Am I missing something or does paying for the pro version not give you anything over the 2.5 flash model?
- jiggawatts 11mo agoThe code name “nano banana” model is based on the Flash 2.5 foundation. Until today it was the “latest and greatest”.
- jjcm 11mo agoOne of the things I've always been curious about is how effective diffusion models can be for web and app design. They're generally trained on more organic photos, but post-training on SDXL and Flux have given me good results here in the past (with the exception of text). It's been interesting seeing the results of Nano Banana Pro in this domain. Here are a few examples: Prompt: "A travel planner for an elegant Swiss website for luxury hiking tours. An interactive map with trail difficulty and booking management. Should have a theme that is alpine green, granite grey, glacier white" Flux output: https://fal.media/files/rabbit/uPiqDsARrFhUJV01XADLw_11cb4d2afc6d488ab5c7c233fb25d0ca.jpg https://fal.media/files/rabbit/uPiqDsARrFhUJV01XADLw_11cb4d2... NBP output: https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/panda/h9auGbrvUkW4Zpav1CnBy.png https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/panda/h9auGbrvUkW4Zpav1CnBy.pn... --- Prompt: "a landing page for a saas crypto website, purple gradient dark theme. Include multiple sections, including one for coin prices, and some graphs of value over time for coins, plus a footer" Flux output: https://fal.media/files/elephant/zSirai8mvJxTM7uNfU8CJ_109b06b0bde84a49a21816c0c2348487.png https://fal.media/files/elephant/zSirai8mvJxTM7uNfU8CJ_109b0... NBP output: https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/rabbit/1f3jHbxo4BwU6nL1-w6RI.png https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/rabbit/1f3jHbxo4BwU6nL1-w6RI.p... --- Prompt: "product launch website for a development tool, dark background with aqua blue and neon gold highlights, gradients" Flux output: https://fal.media/files/zebra/aXg29QaVRbXe391pPBmLQ_4bfa61cc10fc43ddba7102581f799b36.png https://fal.media/files/zebra/aXg29QaVRbXe391pPBmLQ_4bfa61cc... NBP output: https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/lion/Rj48BxO2Hg2IoxRrnSs0r.png https://v3b.fal.media/files/b/lion/Rj48BxO2Hg2IoxRrnSs0r.png --- Note that this is with a lora I built for flux specifically for website generation. Overall, nbp seems to have less creative / inspired outputs, but the text is FAR better than the fever dream Flux is producing. I'm really excited to see how this changes design. At the very least it proved it can get close to a production quality for output, now it's just about tuning it.
- semiinfinitely 11mo ago"Talk to your Google One Plan Manager" wtf
- nhhvhy 11mo agoYuck. The last thing the world needs is another slop generator
- 1970-01-01 11mo agoThe naming is somehow getting worse. I swear we will soon see models that are named just with emojis.
- mogomogo19292 11mo agoStill seems to mess up speech bubbles in comic strips unfortunately
- Zenst 11mo agoWhen my first thought was of an SBC, then a media AI cloud product was not high up on my guess list.
- user34283 11mo agoThe visual quality of photorealistic images generated in the Gemini app seems terrible. Like really ugly. The 1K output resolution isn't great, but on top of that it looks like a heavily compressed JPEG even at 100% viewing size. Does AI Studio have the same issue? There at least I can see 2K and 4K output options.
- simonw 11mo agoI have a couple of 25MB PNG 4K images from AI Studio here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QV3pcW1KfbTRQscavNh6ld9PyqG4BRes/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QV3pcW1KfbTRQscavNh6ld9PyqG... https://drive.google.com/file/d/18AzhM-BUZAfLGoHWl6MQW_UW9ju4km-i/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/18AzhM-BUZAfLGoHWl6MQW_UW9ju...
- gloosx 11mo agoAt close-up inspection – 8x8 JPEG compression blocks are not going anywhere even with those "4k PNG images" Seems like a fundamental flaw with image-models is that they will always output something resembling a JPEG
- ionwake 11mo agoI am extremely impressed by google this week. I dont want to be annoying, its just a small piece of feedback, but srsly why is it so hard for google to have a simple onboarding experience for paying customers? In the past I spoke about how my whole startup got taken offline for days because I "upgraded" to paying, and that was a decade ago. I mean it cant be hard, other companies dont have these issues! Im sure it will be fixed in time, its just a bit bizarre. Maybe its just not enough time spent on updating legacy systems between departments or something.
- AmbroseBierce 11mo ago2D animators can still feel safe about their job, I asked it to generate a sprite sheet animation by giving it the final frame of the animation (as a PNG file) and asking in detail what I wanted in the spritesheet, it just gave me mediocre results, I asked for 8 frames and it just repeated a bunch of poses just to reach that number instead of doing what a human would have done with the same request, meaning the in-betweens to make the animation smoother (AKA interpolations)
- Yokohiii 11mo agoWith local models you can use control net, which is simply speaking, the model trying to adhere to a given wireframe/openpose. Which is more likely to give you an stable result. I have no experience with it, just wanted to point out that there is tooling that is more advanced.
- red75prime 11mo agoAt least until someone decides to fine-tune a general purpose model to the task of animation.
- BoorishBears 11mo agoYeah reading this I was thinking, we've got Qwen-Image-Edit which is an image model with an LLM backbone that takes well to finetuning. I'd be surprised if you can't get a 80%/20% result in a weekend, and even that probably saves you some time if you're just willing to pick best-of-n results
- AmbroseBierce 11mo agoThe person behind www.pixellab.ai has been trying to make a SaaS out of that idea for about 2 years already and it just isn't there, the examples in the homepage are extremely cherry-picked, I bet most of their paying customers just use it as a starting point and then spend hours manually fix the sprites, which may be more than enough value for $12 a month and that's great but what is shows is that we are not as close as one would like to imagine, the "one leg in front of the other at about the same depth and the same color" is still problematic to this day; if most pants in the world had a different color for each leg I bet most of its animation issues would be solved, unfortunately we don't and most of the training data involves single-color pants/legs.
- joshhart 11mo agoThis is super awesome, but how in the world did they come up with a name "Nano Banana Pro"? It sounds like an April Fools joke.
- jameslk 11mo agoIt was an internal codename that leaked out and then despite trying to use a more corporate-friendly name that was terribly boring (Gemini 2.5 Flash Image), they got trolled into continuing to use nano banana because nobody would stop calling it that. Or that’s how the lore has been told so far I wouldn’t be surprised if Google shortens the name to NBP in the future, hoping everyone collectively forgets what NB stood for. And then proceeds to enshittify the name to something like Google NBP 18.5 Hangouts Image Editor
- al_be_back 11mo agoA houseplant with tiny turtles for leaves… very informative if under the influence of some substances. It’s not a Hello World equivalent. So much around generative ai seems to be around “look how unrealistic you can be for not-cheap! Ai - cocaine for your machine!!” No wonder there’s very little uptake by businesses (MIT state of ai 2025, etc)
- weagle05 11mo agoGemini is all over the place for me. Nano Banana produces some great images. Today I asked Gemini to design a graphic based on the first sheet in a Google sheet. It produced a graphic with a summary of the data and a picture of a bed sheet. Nailed it.
- tianshuo 11mo agoIt's great to know that Nano Banana pro get's multiple items of my impossible AIGC benchmark done....https://github.com/tianshuo/Impossible-AIGC-Benchmark https://github.com/tianshuo/Impossible-AIGC-Benchmark
- funny_ai 11mo agoWith this model, I'm more worried about future online fraud. Will there still be authenticity?
- into_the_void 11mo agoIs SynthID actually running an AI classifier to decide whether an image is model-generated, or is it only checking for an embedded watermark? If it’s a classifier, the accuracy is questionable — generic “AI detection” tools tend to produce high false-positive rates. Also unclear whether it’s doing semantic anomaly checks (extra fingers, physics errors) or low-level pixel-signature analysis.
- semiquaver 11mo agoWatermark
- alams 11mo agoGoogle is able to churn up SOTA models across the board. But still could not figure out the basic user journey. No Joke!
- sherinjosephroy 11mo ago[dead]
- gloosx 11mo agoGenerated images still contain JPEG artifacts all over them. We are not doomed yet - can pretty much reliably spot RAW image vs AI-generated image by just zooming in
- M4v3R 11mo agoIt's only a matter of time this will be fixed, also there probably already are custom LoRAs that can remove jpeg artifacts. So it's not a matter of if, only when.
- gloosx 11mo agoI dont think so. You cant train away a compression artifact that comes from the model's core architecture, LoRAs can smooth or hide artifacts, but some detail will be inevitably lost. You can try to hide artifacts but not remove them without retraining the whole model on RAW sensor data.
- Spacemolte 11mo ago"Sorry, I'm still learning to create images for you, so I can't do that yet. I can try to find one on the web though."
- atom-morgan 11mo agoAnyone know how to use this with Google Slides? I don't see it anywhere in app.
- piokoch 11mo agoThe funny part is that Google puts watermark on the generated graphics, because they are oh so not evil and socially responsible. Unless you pay Google more, what is mentioned at the very bottom of this infomercial. "Recognizing the need for a clean visual canvas for professional work, we will remove the visible watermark from images generated by Google AI Ultra subscribers and within the Google AI Studio developer tool." BTW: anyone with the skills found in 1 min on the Internet can remove all of those ids, etc. (yes, as you might guess, the website is called remove synth id dot com...)
- mark_l_watson 11mo agoI used the new Nano Banana Pro just now, indirectly. I was brainstorming with Gemini 3 Thinking mode (now the default best thinking option on my iPadOS Gemini app) over a system design for an open source project that I hope to put a lot of effort into next year and then I asked for a detailed system level diagram. The results were very good because the diagram reflected what I had specified during chat. I probably sounded like an idiot when Gemini 3 was released: I have been a paid ‘AI practitioner’ since 1982, lived through multiple AI winters, but I wrote this week that Gemini 3 meets my personal expectations for AGI for the non-physical (digital) world.
- adv0r 11mo agoyou know whats annoying? each iteration the quality of the first original image gets worse and worse until it loses resolution , details etc.
- Andrew-Tate 11mo ago[dead]
- big-chungus4 11mo agoGuys, Nano Banana Pro is a new image model by Google which generated images for me
- jtesp 11mo agoyou can use it on fal.ai https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro/edit https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/nano-banana-pro/edit
- mercat 11mo agoI just could not let this release go by without creating my own little sanctuary of prompts, something about how nano banana pro handles text and tons of detail so coherently really sparks a childlike sense of delight https://github.com/cmd8/awesome-nano-banana-pro-prompts https://github.com/cmd8/awesome-nano-banana-pro-prompts