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In high school, I ran a robotics team that did lots of STEM outreach. We went to community centers, after school programs, and worked with other similar orgs li

In high school, I ran a robotics team that did lots of STEM outreach. We went to community centers, after school programs, and worked with other similar orgs like "girls who code." I think we played an important role in the community. In our mission we stated we wanted to help bring "equity to STEM education." In 2025, according to the current admin's stance on "DEI," my robotics team would not be able to receive grants without risk of being sued. It's plainly obvious the line is not drawn at restraining "overly progressive policies" - it's just arbitrarily placed so the govt can pick and choose the winners based on allegiance. It's a shame that folks with a strong moral fiber are now punished for wanting to help their communities.

actionfromafar 11mo ago
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- a456463 11mo ago
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  - actionfromafar 11mo ago
    They don't like being found out.
    - CursedSilicon 11mo ago
      Sorry. Given the context of the thread Who is "they" exactly?
      - actionfromafar 11mo ago
        Presumably, somebody downvoting that comment. Of course, it doesn't have to be that reason, but if the shoe fits
ashtonshears 11mo ago
I appreciate your efforts to support community and people
zb3 11mo ago
You state no details.. but things like "girls who code" sound discriminatory. What about outreach to people who can't learn to code for example because they're not wealthy enough?
- endemic 11mo ago
  So we shouldn’t focus on helping a subset of people because doing so is discriminatory to everyone else?
  - AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
    Well... if you're getting a grant to help group X (which is in need), and you're not helping group Y (that is also in need), that should be all right (one organization probably can't do everything). But there maybe ought to be someone else getting a grant to help group Y.
  - endomorphosis 11mo ago
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    - __loam 11mo ago
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      - endomorphosis 11mo ago
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        __loam 11mo ago
        You seem to care a lot about it actually.
        hatf0 11mo ago
        You slipped in "based on sex" for an intentional reason that I'd like you to share with the class. Say, is your opinion of the "sex is an immutable characteristic and fixed at birth and therefore trans people are invalid and should..."? Or maybe I'm just reading into your wording a little too much.
slumberlust 11mo ago
Cronyism is back on the menu.
belorn 11mo ago
Around 2019, Guido official stated that he would not longer mentor any white male, and that there was enough white males around that any white male who wanted to learn developing python would have to do it on their own. The community in general seemed to follow the same policy back then, but now seem to have relaxed a bit. Reducing complex individuals into two bits of information, skin and gender, will never be a stable system for equity. It always bring push back, which usually escalate hostilities and bring more polarization. I would like to imagine than in the place of DEI or anti-DEI, we will instead see a push for programs that look to the individual and their need for support. Needing mentors and support is not born out of gender or skin color, nor faith or sexual orientation. Its born from human need to improve oneself and those around us. That is a program that deserve government grants, and I wish there was governments that would support that in 2025 political climate. I noted today in local Swedish news that one of the largest STEM university in Sweden found that they have now reached their gender equallity goals for technical programs, and is looking to change the diversity program towards other demographics that has been overlooked and gotten worse over the years in term of gender equallity, like for students in biology and chemistry. Time will tell what the people with strong moral fiber will do, as there seems to be a lot of resistance among those who previous was supported by that diversity program.
- Me001 11mo ago
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- pseudalopex 11mo ago
  > The community in general seemed to follow the same policy back then Our definitions of the community in general must differ. This was not what I saw. > Reducing complex individuals into two bits of information, skin and gender This is a straw man. Skin and gender were not the only factors he considered. And he considered gender because of patterns of failure when other mentors mentored women.
- tootie 11mo ago
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- analog31 11mo ago
me-vs-cat 11mo ago
> the line is ... arbitrarily placed so the govt can pick and choose the winners based on allegiance. This is the real problem. They use vague statements to make decisions based on loyalty with just enough merit as distraction. Everything will get much worse for everyone, and they will probably set back the progress of causes they use as vehicles in their loyalty crusade. I increasingly see other outcomes becoming less likely.

actionfromafar 11mo ago

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a456463 11mo ago
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- actionfromafar 11mo ago
  They don't like being found out.
  - CursedSilicon 11mo ago
    Sorry. Given the context of the thread Who is "they" exactly?
    - actionfromafar 11mo ago
      Presumably, somebody downvoting that comment. Of course, it doesn't have to be that reason, but if the shoe fits

ashtonshears 11mo ago

I appreciate your efforts to support community and people

zb3 11mo ago

You state no details.. but things like "girls who code" sound discriminatory. What about outreach to people who can't learn to code for example because they're not wealthy enough?

endemic 11mo ago
So we shouldn’t focus on helping a subset of people because doing so is discriminatory to everyone else?
- AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
  Well... if you're getting a grant to help group X (which is in need), and you're not helping group Y (that is also in need), that should be all right (one organization probably can't do everything). But there maybe ought to be someone else getting a grant to help group Y.
- endomorphosis 11mo ago
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  - __loam 11mo ago
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    - endomorphosis 11mo ago
      [flagged]
      - __loam 11mo ago
        You seem to care a lot about it actually.
      - hatf0 11mo ago
        You slipped in "based on sex" for an intentional reason that I'd like you to share with the class. Say, is your opinion of the "sex is an immutable characteristic and fixed at birth and therefore trans people are invalid and should..."? Or maybe I'm just reading into your wording a little too much.

slumberlust 11mo ago

Cronyism is back on the menu.

belorn 11mo ago

Around 2019, Guido official stated that he would not longer mentor any white male, and that there was enough white males around that any white male who wanted to learn developing python would have to do it on their own. The community in general seemed to follow the same policy back then, but now seem to have relaxed a bit. Reducing complex individuals into two bits of information, skin and gender, will never be a stable system for equity. It always bring push back, which usually escalate hostilities and bring more polarization. I would like to imagine than in the place of DEI or anti-DEI, we will instead see a push for programs that look to the individual and their need for support. Needing mentors and support is not born out of gender or skin color, nor faith or sexual orientation. Its born from human need to improve oneself and those around us. That is a program that deserve government grants, and I wish there was governments that would support that in 2025 political climate. I noted today in local Swedish news that one of the largest STEM university in Sweden found that they have now reached their gender equallity goals for technical programs, and is looking to change the diversity program towards other demographics that has been overlooked and gotten worse over the years in term of gender equallity, like for students in biology and chemistry. Time will tell what the people with strong moral fiber will do, as there seems to be a lot of resistance among those who previous was supported by that diversity program.

Me001 11mo ago
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pseudalopex 11mo ago
> The community in general seemed to follow the same policy back then Our definitions of the community in general must differ. This was not what I saw. > Reducing complex individuals into two bits of information, skin and gender This is a straw man. Skin and gender were not the only factors he considered. And he considered gender because of patterns of failure when other mentors mentored women.
tootie 11mo ago
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analog31 11mo ago

me-vs-cat 11mo ago

> the line is ... arbitrarily placed so the govt can pick and choose the winners based on allegiance. This is the real problem. They use vague statements to make decisions based on loyalty with just enough merit as distraction. Everything will get much worse for everyone, and they will probably set back the progress of causes they use as vehicles in their loyalty crusade. I increasingly see other outcomes becoming less likely.