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JetKVM – Control any computer remotely

• tmyrden 1y ago
  Has been for close to a week now! Mine is already through Canadian customs after shipping from China. Purchased via Wisdpi. I think they opened sales the same day that GL.iNet announced their new cloud KVM.
• nati0n 1y ago
  PiKVM seems to be the large competitor here and is completely open source. If you're looking into KVM solutions, probably check it out, but JetKVM is over 50% less, which is a huge argument in favor of it. https://pikvm.org https://pikvm.org
  • yapyap 1y ago
    JetKVM is over 50% less what?
    • gessha 1y ago
      Price.
    • holysoles 1y ago
      over 50% less the price, I see the JetKVM at $90 USD, but PiKVMs range from $230+. I found PiKVM useful as I already had the hardware laying around, so setting one up didn't cost me anything, and its a pretty good experience. If I were to buy new though, not sure I'd find it worth the cost for my use case.
  • newsclues 1y ago
    Tiny pilot is also an option
    • mliezun 1y ago
      Was gonna say the same thing, here: https://tinypilotkvm.com/ https://tinypilotkvm.com/
      • pythonaut_16 1y ago
        Is it really $400 per host? Why would one pick a TinyPilot over NanoKVM or JetKVM?
  • tripdout 1y ago
    What justifies the V4 Plus being worth $350? They're using the CM4 so they’ve made a PCB, but what hardware are they adding over the peripherals available on a Pi 4/5? All I can tell is an additional Ethernet port, a SIM card tray, and an “ATX controller”. What does the board look like, why can’t I DIY that version, etc. Are they just trying to make it up with the software (that I also can’t tell what it looks like).
    • nerdsniper 1y ago
      It's not really worth that much. You absolutely could DIY it, probably just kludge in a basic $30 HDMI capture card. Also JetKVM is now just as "open-source" as PiKVM is, so there's not even a moral high ground to spending extra. Both are open-source software but not open-source firmware or hardware (no schematics or gerbers or anything like that available).
  • choilive 1y ago
    I can buy 3 or 4 x JetKVMs for 1 PiKVM, pretty hard to justify going for PiKVM unless there is a PiKVM feature you need
  • NelsonMinar 1y ago
    The JetKVM is very impressive looking at a great price. Until recently it wasn't really available in the US but it looks like it is now/ The V4 Mini is a very nice piece of hardware. I paid $300 for one in April from Amazon. I also got PiKVM running on a Pi Zero 2 W and it worked fine but was a bit squirrely. Having the purpose-built device is nice. You can also use a Pi Zero 2 W as a serial console: it has a USB On-the-Go port perfect for the purpose. But the KVM approach is more generally useful since you can access a consumer BIOS from it.
    • iamtedd 1y ago
      They recently opened a global store. Previously, the only way to get one was to "buy" it on kickstarter, presumably from the US as well as the rest of the world.
  • Aurornis 1y ago
    The JetKVM software is also open source: https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm
  • donaldihunter 1y ago
    Geekworm make cheaper KVM hardware built around the Raspberry Pi. I have a KVM-A8 which mounts in a card slot. https://geekworm.com/collections/pikvm https://geekworm.com/collections/pikvm
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• breput 1y ago
  Just a FYI - many people[0] (including myself) have had serious issues with JetKVM. In my case, I found it is not compatible with all HDMI sources but others just have unknown "Loading video stream..." issues. [0] https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm/issues/84 https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm/issues/84
  • ahepp 1y ago
    It's difficult for me to tell how many of the issues in that thread are serious, because there also seem to be a surprising number of people who come back to say "I solved it by enabling h264 in my browser". On the other hand there are people who say "I ordered three, two work and one doesn't" which seems like pretty good evidence there can be real issues with the hardware.
    • bradfitz 1y ago
      I ordered three and they all worked and then one died. Fortunately they replaced it, though.
      • woleium 1y ago
        this doesn’t seem ideal for a piece of hardware that may go in a remote location.
        • bradfitz 1y ago
          It doesn't. But judging from forum posts, it seems like it was a common failure mode and it might've been fixed in later hardware revs.
    • _factor 1y ago
      Ordered 2, one was fine, other required a reflash to resolve a black screen. Worked fine across a variety of SBCs and desktops since. Security is not top priority very obviously, but for a quick kvm on a system without bmc, it’s fine. Picks up DHCP quickly and responsive web UI.
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• awill 1y ago
  From the specs it's very annoying this uses a mini-HDMI. There's room for a full HDMI port, and it's such a waste. We all have dozens of HDMI cables at home, but zero mini-HDMI.
  • mynameisvlad 1y ago
    Looking at the product itself, it looks like it barely squeezes the mini-HDMI externally as is, let alone then PCB/internal available space. I don't think there is, in fact, room for a full HDMI port. Mini HDMI is a compromise, and everyone knows it. It wouldn't have been included if full size HDMI was feasible.
    • jonah 1y ago
      The formfactor is self-imposed though, they could have made the device a few mm wider to accommodate a full HDMI port, but then it wouldn't be nice and square. Form over function maybe.
      • rtkwe 1y ago
        Mini-HDMI is fine for this use though and can just move with the item so it's not like you need to buy many.
        • Slash65 1y ago
          That’s what I do, the jetkvm has its “own” mini hdmi that follows it as I have moved it from different machines. Buying one cable wasn’t the end of the world (I was able to snag the jetkvm for $70 during its kickstarter and a $10 cord) and I use it constantly so it’s never collecting dust
      • mynameisvlad 1y ago
        The form factor is based on the Apple Watch screen they use, clearly.
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• amelius 1y ago
  I've been looking for something like this, but with a built in LTE modem. Also, where do you buy (IoT?) Sim cards cheaply, valid over entire continents or worldwide?
  • gruez 1y ago
    get a esim adapter (ie. euicc in sim card format), find a plan on https://esimdb.com/ https://esimdb.com/, load it onto the esim, and plug it into your iot device.
    • amelius 1y ago
      They don't seem to offer/list Lyca cards, which are among the cheapest, in my (limited) experience.
  • spott 1y ago
    Looks like they are coming: https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-rm10c4/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=menubar https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-rm10c4/?utm_source=websi...
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• candiddevmike 1y ago
  Why not combine the ATX board and the unit itself, and have a real HDMI port? This seems like a mess of cables and dongles.
  • rtkwe 1y ago
    The KVM can be plugged into any system not just those with a spare PCI-e and you can move it around easier without having to bring systems down if you don't need the direct power control which is the main use case of the PCI-e board.
  • nullify88 1y ago
    Something like the NanoKVM-PCIe? I have both JetKVM and NanoKVM-PCIe, its nice to have options.
    • candiddevmike 1y ago
      Yea, just looked at this based on the recommendation in the other comment, it's exactly what I was looking for. Hopefully the software holds up/stays maintained...
      • nullify88 1y ago
        I do think that JetKVM software is more polished, and has more frequent updates. Stuff like streaming images over the network is something that is handy. Nano KVM commits have stagnated a bit, but the form factor is really nice to have everything tucked away. I wish I could run JetKVM on the Nano KVM.
• dmitrygr 1y ago
  I've been satisfied with NanoKVM lite. Cheap and does what i want.
  • fotcorn 1y ago
    I have the PCIe version of NanoKVM, and I am also happy with it. The big advantage of the PCIe version is that it does not take up space on the desk and all the cables for ATX power control an inside the PC case. Full-sized HDMI is nice, the only limitation here is 1080p resolution. 1440p or higher would allow mirroring the output on the main monitor to the NanoKVM, but this probably a weird use-case anyway.
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• ahepp 1y ago
  I've been really happy with my JetKVM. The tariff situation is unfortunate, my recollection is that it was something like $50 during the kickstarter (could be wrong, didn't check). Looking around a bit, I'm not sure I see anything remotely as hackable at a competitive price, so maybe $90 is still a great deal. It would be awesome if they made a PoE version.
  • 542458 1y ago
    > The tariff situation is unfortunate I wish there was a way of ordering from a non-US source so I didn't get hit. I'm not in the US, so it feels silly that I have to pay the American import tariffs on Chinese goods!
    • nerdsniper 1y ago
      I believe the $90 is "mostly" without the tariffs - it appears to be the updated post-Kickstarter price (which was $70). The iKoolCore distributor says: > US Tariff update: There are currently no additional tariffs, but this may change after November 1st. We’ll ship your order promptly to help minimize the risk of tariffs, though we can’t guarantee none will apply. I am in the USA and the unit I ordered from iKoolCore is being shipped to me from China. I have no idea how much more I might have to pay in tariffs once it arrives to customs, or how I will even go about paying those tariffs.
• gommm 1y ago
  I've been using it since I got it. It's been working great with one small issue that I haven't been able to solve. For some reason when I use plasma on Arch linux (but not ubuntu), the display outputs garbage. I'm guessing it's not detecting the EDID correctly and setting a weird resolution or refresh rate. It's not a major issue since other desktop work well so I haven't spent much time looking into it.
  • iamtedd 1y ago
    I get that too on a machine running Mint Cinnamon. It also happens from the BIOS screen, so I don't think its a Linux issue. A re-plug fixes it, but that's not great for a remote access device.
  • vinnymac 1y ago
    Ever since I started using Wayland I’ve had this problem, even when I’m not using KVMs. I have to do a power reset of my monitor to get it to negotiate the correct resolution and refresh rate. Meanwhile Windows and macOS use the monitor without issue. I suspect the issue isn’t solely with the KVM.
• directmusic 1y ago
  As others have said, a full size HDMI port would be nice. However, I've been very satisfied with my JetKVM. I was about to order the GL.iNet KVM they just launched, but I ended up picking up another JetKVM now that sales are open. My use-case is that I have it connected to an Raspberry Pi which I use to test the RPi builds of my application. I just ordered a second to connect to a mini-PC which is the minimum spec supported by my application. It has made my testing experience very smooth.
• ape4 1y ago
  I couldn't see if it could "press" the reset button.
  • spogbiper 1y ago
    there's this add on which allows it to do front panel/power stuff https://jetkvm.com/products/atx-extension-board https://jetkvm.com/products/atx-extension-board
  • rtkwe 1y ago
    They made an add on board that you wire between your case buttons and the header on your motherboard so you can than then 'press' any of the buttons.
• somanyphotons 1y ago
  I wish there was a KVM out there that didn't need HDMI, where it sat on PCIe bus and presented a really dumb framebuffer/kb/mouse to the BIOS/OS, but sent it out over the network
  • ohnoesjmr 1y ago
    Teradici is that, but too expensive for home users.
    • nerdsniper 1y ago
      It looks like I can find Teradici card for $50-200 (used to new), which is in a similar range as the JetKVM. However, according to the installation manual that I found [0], you still need to plug in the DisplayPort connector on the Teradici host card to the GPU output port(s). 0: https://anyware.hp.com/web-help/pcoip_remote_workstation_card/22.04/installation/ https://anyware.hp.com/web-help/pcoip_remote_workstation_car...
  • brokensegue 1y ago
    or that just connected over usb and acted as a usb display adapter
    • spogbiper 1y ago
      afaik usb isn't an option for bios/preboot display. so only useful if the thing is booting up OK enough to run a usb display driver
      • wtallis 1y ago
        USB-C in DisplayPort Alt mode plus USB 2.0 signalling for the keyboard and mouse inputs is starting to be a pretty common option on consumer systems. Capturing that would allow remote control of a PC including the BIOS using a single cable (though a second cable would still be needed for connecting to a desktop motherboard's header for power and reset buttons). I think there just aren't as many options for DisplayPort capture chips as for HDMI/DVI capture.
• dang 1y ago
  Related: JetKVM – Control any computer remotely - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42986909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42986909 - Feb 2025 (1 comment) JetKVM Source - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42553822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42553822 - Dec 2024 (1 comment) JetKVM – Next generation open-source KVM over IP for $69 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42313894 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42313894 - Dec 2024 (2 comments) JetKVM: Tiny IP KVM That's Not an Apple Watch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41957056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41957056 - Oct 2024 (14 comments)
• systems 1y ago
  I know this might sound naive but for those of us who had to google kvm here mean keyboard video and mouse, not the linux kernel-based virtual machine kvm this device apparently is used to connect to machines remotely over IP
  • layer8 1y ago
    People familiar with KVM switches have the reverse issue with the Linux kernel thing. ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45706866#45713054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45706866#45713054
    • RicoElectrico 1y ago
      Likewise with DRM.
      • bigbuppo 1y ago
        Digital Radio Mondiale?
      • technothrasher 1y ago
        Being a nerdy kid in the 80’s, I can’t see the acronym MCP without thinking, “You’re in trouble program. Why don’t you make it easy on yourself. Who’s your user?”
        • int_19h 1y ago
          They should have called it OCP, the Omni Control Protocol.
          • ambentzen 1y ago
            Over Current Protection
        • btschaegg 1y ago
          Well that one at least has appreciable parallels :) Letting an LLM loose on a real system without containing it in a sandbox sounds about as predictably disastrous as letting a glorified chess program run all ENCOM operations…
• lawrencegripper 1y ago
  Have 2 of these for my homelab with the power management extension and they’ve been great, would recommend
• chelmzy 1y ago
  Don't use these on your corporate devices or the infosec department will think you are a DPRK remote worker.
  • jxi 1y ago
    Is this even detectable? Doesn’t it just show up as a regular mouse and keyboard?
    • chelmzy 1y ago
      It is. There are a few different methods. If the devices aren't configured to spoof their USB information they typically have manufacturer information in the usb device name, serial, or vendorID. Otherwise searching usb devices by the deviceclass they are using is another good indicator. I've found that these typically show as USB device class 01h (audio) and 08h (mass storage) which is kinda rare. Just have to filter through legitimate USB products.
• jauntywundrkind 1y ago
  No out of the box TailScale but it's 'easy to add.' WebRTC is neat. It looks like it relies on CloudFlare WebRTC relay for STUN / TURN, but supposedly you can self-host the cloud api. https://jetkvm.com/docs/networking/remote-access https://jetkvm.com/docs/networking/remote-access I'd also point out the gl.inet Comet Pro, which has some nice to haves like wifi 6, full sized HDMI ports, HDMI and USB pass through. https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/ https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/ The PiKVM approach of having a whole computer you can also use makes so much sense to me. Interesting seeing similar parallels in NAS space, where Ugreen for example is running Debian on their NAS.
  • Sean-Der 1y ago
    Hopefully you are in a network that allows P2P! Then STUN just works and you can use any of the public servers (CloudFlare, Google, Twilio...) Running your own TURN server would be trivial also. I have been tempted for a long time to make a 'TURN in a Box' that does autoconfig so people can run it easily on Hetzner/AWS
• dangerboysteve 1y ago
  I picked up one from the kickstarter campaign. It's a wonderful, well-made device and open-source to boot. I plan to buy more.
• nixosbestos 1y ago
  If Sipeed had any idea how to run a product or software, the NanoKVM line would eat this alive. Fortunately, Sipeed is like most other chinese manufacturers and have no idea what they're doing. Did they partner with Manjaro for that one? I don't think the Manjaro folks are even that incompetent.
• crims0n 1y ago
  Please forgive my ignorance, but what advantage does this have over RDP/VNC?
  • dmd 1y ago
    RDP/VNC don’t work when the computer is off. Or the computer’s network card is down.
  • pythonaut_16 1y ago
    Operates at a hardware level, separate from the target machine rather than software in the OS. With RDP/VNC what do you do if the machine fails to boot? Or RDP stops working for some reason and you can't SSH in? Or for installing a headless OS on a new machine. I'm sure there are more specific usecases as well but that's what I mainly use remote KVM devices for at home.
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  • mlapida 1y ago
    A few things: 1/ the system doesn’t need to be connected to a network, or can be on a private/secured network. 2/ You can make changes to BIOS and other elements of the system that the OS can’t “see”. 3/ If the system is sleeping or shutdown, JetKVM can send a wake-on-LAN signal/magic packet. I’d say for many use cases, it’s not better than RDP/VNC, but if you’re looking access that is independent of the network and state of the system, JetKVM can’t be beat.
    • crims0n 1y ago
      Ah, this use case makes the most sense to me - thank you kind stranger.
  • burnt-resistor 1y ago
    Add-on, almost lights-out remote management. Without lights-out management, eventually physical access to power cycle will be needed. For systems people care about, they already have BMC (Supermicro), iLO (HP), iDRAC (Dell) controllers. Anything that can capture HDMI and spit it securely over a wire without some cloud-dependency bullshit, present "virtual USB" or input over the network, and close a RST circuit momentarily would do the job. The problem is, in the name of consumerishism and convenience, none of these home-gamer "solutions" have been independently audited that I know of by any reputable firm. (A competitor, NanoKVM, is known to be shady AF downloading serialized binary crap. It talks to tailscale without user permission, communication, or approval. Never use it for anything.) Don't trust something simply because there's press release or social media hype about it. I have to endure constant Cloudflare CAPTCHAs because it's probable that a large fraction of other customers on my ISP have pwned IoT (cameras, doorbells, whizbang startup weather station, etc.) DDoSing and hacking the rest of the world. PSA: For the love of the sysadmin gods, please don't use desktops as servers. ECC RAM, HA, duty cycle, lights out management, and vendor support are completely different beasts compared to retail gear. For non-lights-out, host-based remote desktop that can be self-hosted, RustDesk is able to work locally without relaying to any clouds. And using WG (non-TS) for "VPN"/remote network bridging, that's a pretty compelling option. I haven't yet checked if it can work in an air-gapped environment but I think it might work; but if it doesn't, that would be sad.
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• Greed 1y ago
  I might be missing something, but what does this do that an app like AnyDesk doesn't? Is there something inherently better about remoting in with dedicated hardware rather than using any of the free and widely available software solutions? I can see where this would make sense for low powered machines that can't easily encode video at high speeds / low latency, but I struggle to see the sense of this in a context where I actually want video output (a powerful workstation) rather than just SSH.
  • woleium 1y ago
    it’s useful to be able to get into the bios for remote support situations of critical servers, I guess
  • cjm42 1y ago
    I believe the primary use-case for devices like this is debugging "Why isn't this server rebooting?" without driving to the datacenter. Good luck figuring that out with AnyDesk or SSH.
  • layer8 1y ago
    It doesn’t require the OS on the target hardware to be running, and no other software can get in the way. It can also connect via a separate network than the one the computer is on (if any).
  • IvyMike 1y ago
    > what does this do that an app like AnyDesk doesn't Work when the network config on that particular computer is down/borked.
    • philjohn 1y ago
      or allow you to do a fresh OS install.
• neilv 1y ago
  Provenance and trust are relevant for a remote KVM. But I can't find any information on their Web site about who runs the JetKVM company, not even a partial name or handle of anyone, nor even what country they are in. Which seems odd for how much this product needs to be trusted. Searching elsewhere, other than the company Web site... Crunchbase for JetKVM shows 2 people, who it says are based in Berlin, and who also share a principal company, BuildJet, which Crunchbase says is based in Estonia. The product reportedly ships from Shenzhen. BuildJet apparently is a YC company, but BuildJet's Web site has very similar lack of info identifying anyone or their location, again despite the high level of trust required for this product. Are corporate customers who are putting these products into positions of serious trust -- into their CI, and remote access to inside their infrastructure -- doing any kind of vetting? When the official Web sites have zero information about who this is, are the customers getting the information some other way, before purchasing and deploying? If these people are still running the companies, why aren't they or anyone else mentioned on the company Web sites? That would be helpful first step for trust for corporate use. So its absence is odd.
  • delusional 1y ago
    I don't think this is nearly at the stage of "corporate customers putting into serious trust" Buildjet (the parent company) looks to be a pretty small company with currently modest revenue[1]. I agree that the absence of people on both webpages is sort of odd. I think it make more sense for their original service (CI workers) than it does for a hardware product. https://ariregister.rik.ee/eng/company/16075023/Buildjet-O%C3%9C?search_id=eb52dc5&pos=1 https://ariregister.rik.ee/eng/company/16075023/Buildjet-O%C...
  • trenchpilgrim 1y ago
    I think products like JetKVM are targeting hobbyists and small outfits; corporations who aren't on a public cloud are using stuff like idrac, ilo, or dedicated rackmount KVM hardware.
    • echo7394 1y ago
      IDrac often demands that the PC connecting to it be on the same network however, an rkvm like this let's you skip the pc-in-the-middle step.
• RajT88 1y ago
  This is cool. JetKVM seems really popular on my homelab groups, but I use something similar called Aurga for my personal stuff. I don't see anyone in this thread using Aurga. It's not as good as RDP or physically being in front of the machine, but it's good enough.
  • nickphx 1y ago
    I have an aurga. I've found their client software to be lacking.
• karteum 1y ago
  I have happily used nanokvm (https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_Pro/introduction.html https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_Pro/introduc... ). (N.b. unfortunately the ATX board cannot be ordered independently, so be sure to order the "nanokvm-full" package)
• brasizecalc123 1y ago
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• karolist 1y ago
  I love this little thing. In case someone uses ESRack system, here's the bracket I designed you can print https://www.printables.com/model/1359418-esrack-module-jetkvm https://www.printables.com/model/1359418-esrack-module-jetkv...
• GaryBluto 1y ago
  >Join our Discord Nothing instils faith in a product like using a gaming chatroom populated by tweens for communication.
  • wahnfrieden 1y ago
    It's not 2018 anymore
    • GaryBluto 1y ago
      I don't see what that has anything to do with it.
      • wahnfrieden 1y ago
        demo shift
  • system2 1y ago
    I agree. Discord support = a cheap company that can disappear tomorrow. Similar to cryptos.
  • dilyevsky 1y ago
    Are you aware how expensive community slack can be these days? Between this and some old school community support forum i personally pick discord
    • GaryBluto 1y ago
      Support forums are ten-times better than either Slack or Discord and offer more control, they're also searchable and archivable. I don't think it's a stretch to say people who prefer Discord to forums are the type who sign in with Google or Facebook on all websites that offer it.
  • jpfromlondon 1y ago
    God forbid they try to save a bit of money, got a better suggestion?
• nodesocket 1y ago
  I got tired of waiting for JetKVM availability in the US and pulled the trigger on a GL.iNet Comet PoE. A bit more expensive on Amazon ($110) but supports PoE which the JetKVM does not. Honestly, it has worked great. I know the earlier Comet firmware had some issues, but apparently they fixed it up and it has been solid.
• tamimio 1y ago
  The cringe thumbnails in the videos in the homepage and having discord for communication is enough for me to NOT use it or try it.
• greenavocado 1y ago
  My company runs on GL.iNet Comet GL-RM1 KVMs to manage servers deployed at remote customer sites and I'm about to deploy more tomorrow
  • burnt-resistor 1y ago
    "GL Technologies (HK) Ltd & GL Intelligence, Inc & Shenzhen GuangLianZhiTong Tech Co.Ltd" Since there's no independent audit of these and no way to prove that these aren't being intercepted, I wouldn't be bragging about voluntarily installing potential infrastructure vulnerabilities.
    • wiredpancake 1y ago
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    • greenavocado 1y ago
      They are firewalled and can only communicated with other devices on the LAN. We use the other systems on the LAN to jump to the KVMs. No simple infrastructure attack is possible.
• rat87 1y ago
  Since people are saying this software doesn't have enough time/known contributors for trust who would people recommend for remote control of say a parents laptop for remote IT support. Preferably $0 and open source but others as well
• syntaxing 1y ago
  For what its worth, GL inet released something similar https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=banner https://www.gl-inet.com/campaign/gl-rm10/?utm_source=website...
• bicepjai 1y ago
  Take my money. I was so looking for something like this
• arjie 1y ago
  I wonder if there's a form-factor that looks like an ATX expansion slot (perhaps dual slot) type system with PoE powering it and all the electronics on a PCI-card form-factor. Then the whole thing can all fit on the case neatly, and we just have to plug in from the case to the case and run two Ethernet instead of one. EDIT: Anything I can think of, China has already built https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_PCIe/introduction.html https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/kvm/NanoKVM_PCIe/introdu... Amazing
• BobbyTables2 1y ago
  The cynic in me wonders how remote access software companies are NOT in bed with governments and organized crime. Wouldn’t it just be too lucrative? Sure, these entities may not care about YOU. But YOU provide a means of free computing power, internet connection — the means for proxying cyber attacks.
  • dns_snek 1y ago
    The market for this type of device is negligible compared to the market of people who install free VPNs and mobile games that come bundled with a botnet membership. "The means for proxying cyber attacks" are entirely commercialized, just search for residential proxy providers. They sell by the gigabyte and primarily rely on naive users and compromised devices.
  • vinnymac 1y ago
    The difference is that the masses don’t buy these devices, only us nerds do. We are much more likely to disconnect a device as soon as they’re found being malicious. While the masses won’t even react after being told the well is poisoned. Large slow targets are more lucrative and long lasting.
• system2 1y ago
  It is hard for me to understand who benefits from these devices. Any serious server environment already uses idrac or something similar. What kind of device are people planning to remote into with them? NVRs maybe?
  • blkhawk 1y ago
    People without a serious server environment or in all the myriad places where you need a local terminal temporarily or setting up one is super inconvenient. Say a small 19" rack in a cellar. with this you just plug in in, memorise the IP and go somewhere where you can sit comfortably.
  • PhilipRoman 1y ago
    I think you overestimate how "serious" most companies are. Sure, they have long documents about compliance but then you look behind the facade and see a CI server running on a windows laptop with an external USB SSD plugged in.
• aborsy 1y ago
  If the device is behind firewall and VPN, short of back door, is it still a security concern?
• qiu3344 1y ago
  Personally, I usually try to pick motherboards that give you access to everything you need via the serial port (UEFI, boot selection, etc). That's why solutions like this seem a little bit backward to me. On top of that, all server/desktop OSes I'm familiar with, provide better remote control options after boot (that respect UAC) - but maybe I'm simply not the target demographic here.
• marwis 1y ago
  How come there are still no 4K 60fps KVM devices? Software solutions like Moonlight/Sunshine have been able to do that with near-zero latency for a long time and they are not even the first. Phones have chips capable of capturing 4K 120fps. Why is it so hard for KVM devices?
  • nerdsniper 1y ago
    Because no one manufactures a cheap silicon chip that converts DP Alt-Mode to UVC at 4K. There exist great <$5 ultra-commoditized options for 1080p HDMI -> UVC but as soon as you move up to capture 4K it gets super expensive for the silicon alone and the engineering complexity goes way up as well. Generally all these devices are just slapping together a few existing silicon chips. If the chip they need doesn’t exist, no ones really going out of their way to overengineer a different solution for which price to consumer would be prohibitive.
• buserror 1y ago
  Pro tip: Do not use on your internet router if it is ALSO the DHCP server, as the JetKVM is by default DHCP (with no backup fallback to a LL address) so if your server somehow needs serious attention... Well yes, your JetKVM no longer has a lease. Don't ask me how I discovered this one :-)
  • cpfleming 1y ago
    Static addressing in the next release, shame there's no link locals setup though.
• bnferguson 1y ago
  Absolutely love this little thing. Picked a couple up back when it was still a kickstarter and was super surprised at the build quality (shockingly heavy for its size) and how smooth everything went. It's not a thing I use everyday but sooo much nicer than having to unplug and lug my proxmox server up from the meter closet anytime there's an issue.
• volkadav 1y ago
  Trip report of size one, fwiw: I have a JetKVM device at home and it's been super handy in my small homelab (half dozen or so older dells and lenovos). I haven't experienced any problems with my device. It seems solidly built, the software works well and is receiving updates, and the price was very fair from what I recall. One feature that I thought was particularly a nice touch was that you can store OS images on it and have it show up as storage on the target machine (though some of my older gear doesn't seem to want to boot from it for whatever reason -- which I suspect has more to do with decade+ old workstations that last got a firmware upgrade when Obama was president than anything JetKVM is or isn't doing). Overall, I'd recommend them. :)
  • elheffe80 1y ago
    Check to see if they are connected via usb 2? I know in the past I have had problems with older hardware on a usb 3 port vs a usb 2 port...
• kristopolous 1y ago
  Oh geez. I had some USB OTG prototypes of a device like this in 2019 over a Pi zero but nobody cared so I abandoned it. I even used mine in the field. Worked over LTE. So disappointing. Ewasted it during Covid. And now... Looks like it's a hot field. I need to do stop doubting myself. Somehow
• KETpXDDzR 1y ago
  If someone is looking for an open source alternative: https://pikvm.org/ https://pikvm.org/
• steinbring 1y ago
  I own two of those, and I have a third one coming in the mail.