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What if tariffs?
- isoprophlex 11mo agoSo... they swapped 3 and 9 numerals. Does it run counter clockwise then, as a horological commentary on our present age of backwardness?
- brightbeige 11mo agoThat you can find around southern South America https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28013157 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28013157 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica_Invertida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9rica_Invertida
- isoprophlex 11mo agoFascinating, thanks
- nunorbatista 11mo agono, it's a regular quartz movement.
- stavros 11mo agoSo the hands show 9 o'clock but the face shows 3 o'clock?
- nunorbatista 11mo agoyes, the hands show the normal hour corresponding to the wrong number: at 9 o'clock, the hours pointer will be in it's correct place, pointing to a 3.
- brightbeige 11mo agoOnly available in Switzerland Here’s a link to the Swiss store which has more details, like price: https://www.swatch.com/en-ch/what-if-tariffs-so34z106/SO34Z106.html https://www.swatch.com/en-ch/what-if-tariffs-so34z106/SO34Z1...
- Quarrel 11mo agoI like the "Hopefully, just a limited edition." line too :)
- bbno4 11mo agoabsolutely brilliant, one of the greatest things i have ever seen. shame its only available in switzerland.
- immibis 11mo agohow is a watch with 3 and 9 swapped brilliant in any way at all?
- jagrsw 11mo agoReminds me of the Orange Alternative movement in communist-era Poland. A group would wear t-shirts, each with a letter, spelling an innocent phrase. When one turned away, the message would instantly become different, like changing "Down with the heat" to "Down with the cops" - https://sztukapubliczna.pl/pl/precz-z-u-palami-pomaranczowa-alternatywa/czytaj/30 https://sztukapubliczna.pl/pl/precz-z-u-palami-pomaranczowa-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Alternative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Alternative the whole world is a work of art, so even a single policeman standing in the street is a work of art
- layer8 11mo agoRight? I don’t want to work from 3am to 9pm. ;)
- mndgs 11mo agoTrue that
- Kwpolska 11mo agoIt looks so terrible I thought the idea behind it was “this is what the US can manufacture without importing foreign materials”. But nah, it’s just an ugly watch with a pretty dumb marketing stunt that makes it less usable as a watch.
- louthy 11mo agoSwatch watches are all ugly tbf (imho, of course). But let’s face it, this is more of a statement than a product
- watwut 11mo agoLike, seriously and not just Swatch. I wanted to buy myself a watch that would look good. Ended up with nothing because good looking watch dont seem to exist.
- nunorbatista 11mo agotaste is subjective. Are you sure you know what you're looking for?
- watwut 11mo agoA watch that does not look ugly. I am usually ok with almost anything visually, but all the watches are in basically same ugly style. I am not designing own watch if that is what you mean. I settled on cheap plastic ones, because well, since there is nothing better looking that cheap plastic I can go cheap.
- aredox 11mo ago[dead]
- golem14 11mo agoI find the Tissot Seastar pretty. I wish it came with a spring drive. My Seastar has terrible accuracy.
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- louthy 11mo agoDo the hands tick counter clockwise? I am assuming so to make 3/9 swap work, but it’s not mentioned.
- dalmo3 11mo agoIt can't not be clockwise.
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- louthy 11mo agoIt ticks, therefore it is
- hshdhdhehd 11mo agoLocally clockwise
- dr_kiszonka 11mo agoBest comment! Thanks.
- layer8 11mo agoIt could be clockunwise.
- tempodox 11mo agoThat’s it, definitely.
- fainpul 11mo agoBoring answer: no, because that would require modifications to the movement and would make the watch much too expensive. The whole idea of Swatch is based on simplicity, reduction of parts count and automated manufacturability.
- intermerda 11mo agoThe number 39 refers to the 39% tariff rate on Switzerland. Kind of insane that the American President just made up a lie that tariffs are paid by foreign countries and rest of the administration just went along with it. It flies in the face of any common sense.
- croisillon 11mo agoit's thanks to the lying that he was elected in the first place, and no one around him dares to contradict him, what would be the incentives to stop?
- Swoerd 11mo agoAnd now that the U.S. has a tyrannical government, there’s no one left to stand in its way, the Second Amendment has proven to be a paper tiger.
- mlrtime 11mo agoCan you expand on what you mean exactly? I see these sentences like your littered throughout reddit, vague notions of violence/war?
- jamincan 11mo agoIt was a common argument that ultimately all of the constitutional protections, balance of powers and all that were protected by the Second Amendment - that in the face of losing their liberty, Americans would rise up against an authoritarian government. Within this administration, a lot of people feel that there has been an assault on constitutional protections, but the people who trumpeted the Second Amendment as being fundamental to protecting American liberty and democracy have largely been silent in the face of it.
- esseph 11mo agoIt was also avoided for decades as "vile" and now the groups that could most use the 2nd Amendment are (mostly) unarmed.
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- landgenoot 11mo agoI like that it's priced at 139
- Nextgrid 11mo agoFor a "statement" piece and limited edition with otherwise no notable features I'm surprised how cheap it is.
- input_sh 11mo agoIt's a Swatch, their prices don't go much higher. If it were a Rolex or a Patek Philippe that did the same, I'm sure there'd be another zero at the end.
- shikon7 11mo agoFor full effect, it should be priced 100 in Switzerland and 139 in the US
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- comrade1234 11mo agoGotta be careful making fun of trump and the tariff situation lest you get another 10% added, which will make this watch irrelevant.
- nunorbatista 11mo agoHe would actually be working against his interest: he has been seen wearing multiple Swiss watches - Patek's, Rolex, Vacheron, etc,
- simmerup 11mo agoYou don't think they're gifts for services rendered and therefore tarriff free?
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- spiderfarmer 11mo agoNobody should be careful making fun of him. Everybody should confront him and then dial back. TACO 2.0.
- stavros 11mo agoLet's not capitulate to bullies.
- nicois 11mo agoThis would be more impactful if we could see the cost to US purchasers was actually 39% more. Sadly some manufacturers spread the cost across all consumers, which actually means non-US customers are actually paying some of the tariff costs too.
- MadDemon 11mo agoThe tariff is applied to the import value. For many products you'll get a significant markup on top within the US for distribution, which is not affected by the tariffs.
- onion2k 11mo agoI imagine some manufacturers used tariffs as a reason to lower the price of their products that imported into the US while also raising the price outside of the US to balance that change, but that doesn't mean the manufacturer or their customers outside of the USA are paying anything towards tariffs. The entire tariff transaction is between the customer and the US government, and it's all transacted within the USA. Tariffs are a tax, paid on the value of imported good, by US citizens who are buying things from outside of the USA. That's it. They are not paid by anyone outside of the US.
- exe34 11mo agoThe manufacturer are subsidising the tariffs if they lower their price in the us to counteract part of the tariff. When they charge other markets more to make up for the cost, they are making those markets pay for the subsidy.
- bigfudge 11mo agoThat might be a short term strategy to avoid losing market share in the states and it’s rational if you think the tariffs are temporary. For goods like iPhones which are truly global that might last. But It doesn’t look like a stable equilibrium in the long term for any food which can support multiple suppliers because manufacturers who don’t do this will be more competitive in non us markets.
- bmacho 11mo agoMissed opportunity to initiate a global switch to clocks that go positive direction
- bmacho 11mo agoMaybe next time 39 becomes relevant for any reason
- rapnie 11mo agoTangential. It is fun to note how in ads showing watches the time is usually 9 past 10 as shown in the image. This apparently gives the most pleasing balance of the watch dials for the eye, while not covering the time indicators below.
- kitd 11mo agoIt makes the watch face look like it's smiling.
- hshdhdhehd 11mo ago10:09:30 is probably the closest to 120 degree equal separation.
- jenadine 11mo agoIn the image it is 10 to 2.
- mlrtime 11mo agoOnce you know this, you can never stop seeing it. I learned about it years ago and every time I see a watch ad, I notice the same hand position.
- verytrivial 11mo agoHaha but seriously, Trump is just starting to ramp up full kleptocracy mode. Each tariff change is going to be associated with billions in trades made with foreknowledge of the move. His robber baron friends will fund him and his regime forever. They can do whatever they want now. We might as well tear down the White House and replace it with a Putin style gilded palace for Oligarchs. Oh wait.
- dekerklas 11mo ago[flagged]
- seydor 11mo agoIronic that it can't be tariff'd
- kitd 11mo agoWhoever said tariffs were bad for business? There's a whole industry springing up of people taking the piss out of the POTUS.
- mohas 11mo agoDo we still remember that Tariffs are supposed to raise the price of foreign goods and make domestic goods more reasonable for buyers? it targets buyers and this is how it works regardless of how it is presented to the public, I don't imagine lots of supporters if presented as it is.
- advisedwang 11mo ago> raise the price of foreign goods and make domestic goods more reasonable for buyers Tariffs never make domestic goods cheaper. In fact if the supply chain has anything imported then domestic goods become more expensive. The best argument is that it makes domestic good relatively cheaper, thus supporting US manufacturing and so keeping jobs and profit in the country. However... that would require domestic goods to be an actual option. I don't see many US manufactured watches available, and the ones that are still don't really compete.
- hshdhdhehd 11mo agoLarge order in from Venezuela
- junglistguy 11mo ago[dead]
- bartread 11mo agoInteresting: does that mean the watch runs in reverse as well to account for the 3 and 9 markers being flipped? That would be kind of neat.
- hshdhdhj4444 11mo agoIt’s actually quite shocking to leave the U.S. and experience the drastic fall in respect. The U.S. has over a century’s worth of dominance and control built in, so it’s not gonna unravel anytime soon and countries will need to grovel along for a bit. But the decoupling has begun, is almost certainly irreversible and is gonna hit Americans hard at most a decade from now. We have no idea the the chain of motion that has already been set in. Trillions of dollars worth of goodwill and respect has been lost in months.
- CoastalCoder 11mo ago> It’s actually quite shocking to leave the U.S. and experience the drastic fall in respect. My only vantage point is from inside the U.S., but I find the loss of prestige completely believable. What amazed me was discovering that my own countrymen would vote in, and continue to support, someone like Trump. My political views are pretty centrist, and I thought I understood the views of most liberals and conservatives. But I never thought there would be so little resistance to the lies, corruption, authoritarianism, and the breakdown of the separation of powers. And the simple incompetence w.r.t. running the executive branch. It's like my mental framework has no way to model whatever is going on here.
- estearum 11mo agoTry on the "it's a cult" model. It explains pretty much everything. This has almost nothing to do with politics or policy or even economics. It's a cult around Trump and then a (quite diverse) set of politically/culturally/economically-motivated opportunists surrounding him and trying to leverage the Donald's cult-building magic into whatever future United States they dream of. Whoever speaks to him most recently before he steps in front of a microphone gets policy priority for the next media cycle!
- SlightlyLeftPad 11mo agoWell, we could be amazed although you seem to be jumping past another, more controversial yet still equally possible conclusion which is that our elections aren’t as pure as we’d all like to believe. Certainly, I’m not here to spread conspiracy and I agree with you here, the results are the only evidence we have of the current situation. Given that, I think many of us were amazed.
- nurettin 11mo agoAt first I thought tariffs were just more inflation. Import prices increase, sales prices balance it out and people will buy anyway. But no, it hurt import businesses in unforseen ways. I saw entire shipment crates get discarded because it was suddenly too expensive to get into the country overnight and too expensive to ship back. Just senseless, pointless waste.
- blitzar 11mo agoIt hurt import businesses in foreseen, expected and one must assume desired ways
- smusamashah 11mo agoIt says Arabic numeral 3 and 9. I don't know why. Arabic 3 looks like this ٣
- orwin 11mo agoDuring the middle ages, France and Spain (and probably Sicily/Southern Italy) used two numerals: Arabic and Roman. In the end, Arabic numerals gave our (western) current numbers and Romans are mostly kept in titles and names. Some watches still use Roman numerals (XII, III, VI, IX), Swatch specify here that those are Arabic (12, 3, 6, 9).
- zombot 11mo ago> glass that allows a side view of the watch’s dial. Greatest feature, you can glance at it sideways! And the built-in reminders of 39%.
- dekerklas 11mo ago[dead]