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Here are the highlights from the .DMG installer screens (https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu): 1. Turn on browser memories Allow ChatGPT to

Here are the highlights from the .DMG installer screens (https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu): 1. Turn on browser memories Allow ChatGPT to remember useful details as you browse to give smarter responses and proactive suggestions. You're in control - memories stay private. 2. Ask ChatGPT - on any website Open the ChatGPT sidebar on any website to summarize, explain, or handle tasks - right next to what you're browsing. 3. Make your cursor a collaborator ChatGPT can help you draft emails, write reviews, or fill out forms. Highlight text inside a form field or doc and click the ChatGPT logo to get started. 4. Set as default browser BOOST CHATGPT LIMITS Unlock 7 days of extended limits on messaging, file uploads, data analysis, and image generation on ChatGPT Atlas. 5. You're all set — welcome to Atlas! Have fun exploring the web with ChatGPT by your side, all while staying in control of your data and privacy. (This screen also displays shareable PNG badge with days since you registered for ChatGPT and Atlas). My guess is that many ChatGPT Free users will make it their default browser just because of (4) — to extend their limits. Creative :)

tim333 1y ago
I tried making it my default browser because of (4) You miss the most questionable bit which is asking for keychain access. I said no to that one.
- terhechte 1y ago
  Weird, I didn't get that question. It asked for full disk access so it could import my Safari settings, but that was optional.
- Skunkleton 1y ago
  A browser using your keychain seems like the least questionable bit, if anything.
  - Analemma_ 1y ago
    Right, but most browsers aren't owned by money-losing startups desperate for any bit of training data they can get their hands on as scaling taps out. I really doubt OpenAI consciously wants my passwords, but I could absolutely see a poorly-coded (or vibe-coded, lol) OpenAI process somehow getting my keychain into their training set anyway, and then somebody being able to ask Chat-GPT 6, "hey, what's Analemma_'s gmail password?" and it happily supplying it. The dismal state of LLM scraper behavior and its support (or lack thereof) of adherence to best practices lends credibility to this.
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- S0y 1y ago
  When I was testing out Agent mode I had to give it login details in clear text (throw away account). Keychain access is very sensible.
conartist6 1y ago
Giving people money to set you as your default browser seems like it might be, idunno, like, maybe a little bit anticompetitive and dystopian
- callc 1y ago
  Or maybe a prime example of healthy capitalism! /s
- bdangubic 1y ago
  getting an 50 mile Uber ride for $25 when taxi was charging me $100 sure got that app onto my phone... once I had the app on the phone...
- erikig 1y ago
  It feels like a natural competitive extension to any company seriously trying to usurp Google's browser domination including but not limited to paying Apple to be the default search engine
- lII1lIlI11ll 1y ago
  Why? Sounds quite competitive to me. Making chatgpt only work with their own browser would be anti-competitive.
- username223 1y ago
  I dunno... it sounds better than giving Apple/Mozilla/etc. dump-trucks of money to make Google my default search engine.
  - conartist6 1y ago
    Very slightly better, but only very slightly, and Google's tactic was ruled illegal anti-competition so this feels like an attempt to find a loophole
cekanoni 1y ago
How can you trust company that says Privacy in your control or some nonsense like that, when they scraped the whole internet and breached the foundation of privacy :)
- tobyjsullivan 1y ago
  Unclear if this question is about Atlas or Google Chrome /s
  - bdangubic 1y ago
    Chrome for sure
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- felarof 1y ago
  You should try us :) open-source and privacy-first alternative to Atlas -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
  - d3Xt3r 1y ago
    Seems like it's based on Chromium? If so, that's a no-go for me. We need more web diversity and support smaller browser engines, we don't need yet another Chromium/Blink based browser.
    - varenc 1y ago
      I agree with this sentiment, but besides Webkit/Chromium and Firefox's Gecko, there's not really any options. Ladybird is a new implementation gaining fast though don't think it's ready to replace everyday workflows yet. And Ladybird has been a huge undertaking of course. Building a new browser engine is 99% of the work and slapping LLM features on it is the other 1% of it.
granzymes 1y ago
Being able to search browser history with natural language is the feature I am most excited for. I can't count the number of times I've spent >10 minutes looking for a link from 5 months ago that I can describe the content of but can't remember the title.
- lxgr 1y ago
  In my experience, as long as the site is public, just describing what I want to ChatGPT 5 (thinking) usually does the trick, without having to give it access to my own browsing history.
- jacekm 1y ago
  I think that such feature is already available in Chrome https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774?hl=en
  - baal80spam 1y ago
    Ah, makes sense why I need to use an extension for that: > To use this feature, you must be located in the US
    - bobviolier 1y ago
      I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?
      - ninininino 1y ago
        What's not to get? Talk to your political representatives about reining in the EDPB if you want access to cutting edge features. Or if you are not in the EU, spend more money I guess and become an attractive market.
6thbit 1y ago
This may be the first time I see a 'perk' of choosing a browser as default. People will probably leave it default past the perk period.
- orliesaurus 1y ago
  this is genius to be honest
- latexr 1y ago
  > People will probably leave it default past the perk period. That’s the idea. It’s an obvious dark pattern. Just like a free trial which automatically stars billing you at the end of the period.
ghostpepper 1y ago
I turned off chatGPT memory entirely because it doesn't know how to segment itself. I was getting inane comments like this when asking about winter tires: Because you work in firmware (so presumably you appreciate measurement, risk, durability) you might be more critical of the “wear sooner than ideal” signals and want a tire with more robustness.
- taspeotis 1y ago
  I have also had bad experiences with it and turned it off - especially for creative stuff like mocking up user interfaces it gets “poisoned” but whatever decision it made in some chat 6mo ago and never really iterates on different outcomes unless you steer it away which takes up a bunch of time.
- andrewguenther 1y ago
  How long ago was this? I had this same experience, but there's a new implementation for memory as of a few months ago which seems to have solved this weird "I need to mention every memory in every answer" behavior.
- kgeist 1y ago
  A couple of months ago I experienced this weird bug where instead of answering my questions, ChatGPT would discuss rome random unrelated topic about 95% time. I had to turn it off, too.
  - sgarland 1y ago
    Carthago delenda est.
- sheepscreek 1y ago
  There was a phase when ChatGPT would respond to everything I said, even in the same request with something like “..here’s the thing that you asked for, of course, without the fluff.” Or blah blah blah “straight to the point.” Or some such thinly veiled euphemisms. No matter how many times I told it not to talk like that, it didn’t work until I found that “core memory”.
prng2021 1y ago
I’m surprised they released something so underwhelming. This will take zero market share from existing browsers.
informal007 1y ago
The wars between LLMs are still hot, it's not expensive to get enough access for LLMs, like student version of Gemini. More access for free users might not provide enough attraction.
noisy_boy 1y ago
> You're in control - memories stay private. For now.

tim333 1y ago

I tried making it my default browser because of (4) You miss the most questionable bit which is asking for keychain access. I said no to that one.

terhechte 1y ago
Weird, I didn't get that question. It asked for full disk access so it could import my Safari settings, but that was optional.
Skunkleton 1y ago
A browser using your keychain seems like the least questionable bit, if anything.
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  Right, but most browsers aren't owned by money-losing startups desperate for any bit of training data they can get their hands on as scaling taps out. I really doubt OpenAI consciously wants my passwords, but I could absolutely see a poorly-coded (or vibe-coded, lol) OpenAI process somehow getting my keychain into their training set anyway, and then somebody being able to ask Chat-GPT 6, "hey, what's Analemma_'s gmail password?" and it happily supplying it. The dismal state of LLM scraper behavior and its support (or lack thereof) of adherence to best practices lends credibility to this.
  - deleted 1y ago
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S0y 1y ago
When I was testing out Agent mode I had to give it login details in clear text (throw away account). Keychain access is very sensible.

conartist6 1y ago

Giving people money to set you as your default browser seems like it might be, idunno, like, maybe a little bit anticompetitive and dystopian

callc 1y ago
Or maybe a prime example of healthy capitalism! /s
bdangubic 1y ago
getting an 50 mile Uber ride for $25 when taxi was charging me $100 sure got that app onto my phone... once I had the app on the phone...
erikig 1y ago
It feels like a natural competitive extension to any company seriously trying to usurp Google's browser domination including but not limited to paying Apple to be the default search engine
lII1lIlI11ll 1y ago
Why? Sounds quite competitive to me. Making chatgpt only work with their own browser would be anti-competitive.
username223 1y ago
I dunno... it sounds better than giving Apple/Mozilla/etc. dump-trucks of money to make Google my default search engine.
- conartist6 1y ago
  Very slightly better, but only very slightly, and Google's tactic was ruled illegal anti-competition so this feels like an attempt to find a loophole

cekanoni 1y ago

How can you trust company that says Privacy in your control or some nonsense like that, when they scraped the whole internet and breached the foundation of privacy :)

tobyjsullivan 1y ago
Unclear if this question is about Atlas or Google Chrome /s
- bdangubic 1y ago
  Chrome for sure
deleted 1y ago
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deleted 1y ago
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felarof 1y ago
You should try us :) open-source and privacy-first alternative to Atlas -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
- d3Xt3r 1y ago
  Seems like it's based on Chromium? If so, that's a no-go for me. We need more web diversity and support smaller browser engines, we don't need yet another Chromium/Blink based browser.
  - varenc 1y ago
    I agree with this sentiment, but besides Webkit/Chromium and Firefox's Gecko, there's not really any options. Ladybird is a new implementation gaining fast though don't think it's ready to replace everyday workflows yet. And Ladybird has been a huge undertaking of course. Building a new browser engine is 99% of the work and slapping LLM features on it is the other 1% of it.

granzymes 1y ago

Being able to search browser history with natural language is the feature I am most excited for. I can't count the number of times I've spent >10 minutes looking for a link from 5 months ago that I can describe the content of but can't remember the title.

lxgr 1y ago
In my experience, as long as the site is public, just describing what I want to ChatGPT 5 (thinking) usually does the trick, without having to give it access to my own browsing history.
jacekm 1y ago
I think that such feature is already available in Chrome https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774?hl=en
- baal80spam 1y ago
  Ah, makes sense why I need to use an extension for that: > To use this feature, you must be located in the US
  - bobviolier 1y ago
    I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?
    - ninininino 1y ago
      What's not to get? Talk to your political representatives about reining in the EDPB if you want access to cutting edge features. Or if you are not in the EU, spend more money I guess and become an attractive market.

6thbit 1y ago

This may be the first time I see a 'perk' of choosing a browser as default. People will probably leave it default past the perk period.

orliesaurus 1y ago
this is genius to be honest
latexr 1y ago
> People will probably leave it default past the perk period. That’s the idea. It’s an obvious dark pattern. Just like a free trial which automatically stars billing you at the end of the period.

ghostpepper 1y ago

I turned off chatGPT memory entirely because it doesn't know how to segment itself. I was getting inane comments like this when asking about winter tires: Because you work in firmware (so presumably you appreciate measurement, risk, durability) you might be more critical of the “wear sooner than ideal” signals and want a tire with more robustness.

taspeotis 1y ago
I have also had bad experiences with it and turned it off - especially for creative stuff like mocking up user interfaces it gets “poisoned” but whatever decision it made in some chat 6mo ago and never really iterates on different outcomes unless you steer it away which takes up a bunch of time.
andrewguenther 1y ago
How long ago was this? I had this same experience, but there's a new implementation for memory as of a few months ago which seems to have solved this weird "I need to mention every memory in every answer" behavior.
kgeist 1y ago
A couple of months ago I experienced this weird bug where instead of answering my questions, ChatGPT would discuss rome random unrelated topic about 95% time. I had to turn it off, too.
- sgarland 1y ago
  Carthago delenda est.
sheepscreek 1y ago
There was a phase when ChatGPT would respond to everything I said, even in the same request with something like “..here’s the thing that you asked for, of course, without the fluff.” Or blah blah blah “straight to the point.” Or some such thinly veiled euphemisms. No matter how many times I told it not to talk like that, it didn’t work until I found that “core memory”.

prng2021 1y ago

I’m surprised they released something so underwhelming. This will take zero market share from existing browsers.

informal007 1y ago

The wars between LLMs are still hot, it's not expensive to get enough access for LLMs, like student version of Gemini. More access for free users might not provide enough attraction.

noisy_boy 1y ago

> You're in control - memories stay private. For now.