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Check UbuntuTouch, it's really a nice third option. The OS is refreshing and the dev community active. We do not have to choose the lesser of two evils this ti
by xandrius 1y ago
Check UbuntuTouch, it's really a nice third option. The OS is refreshing and the dev community active.
We do not have to choose the lesser of two evils this time.
- cons0le 1y agoI wonder if banking and messaging apps will work on it in the future
- jolmg 1y agoRe: banking, not until adoption of non-Android and non-iOS devices grows. To break this chicken and egg problem, one can get an Android phone and use it exclusively for the banking app, treating it like one of those hardware security keys the banks used to give out in the early 2010s. One used to just leave it at home; maybe take it to work occasionally. Another option is to live like the early 2000s and go to an ATM/bank for all bank things, including account consultation.
- WD-42 1y agoOr use the banks website from a computer? Which banks do not allow this?
- londons_explore 1y agoMany banks in Europe are app-only and don't allow you to log in with a web browser.
- nmfisher 1y agoUbank in Australia just told me they’re retiring their website in a few months, the app will be the only way to access your account. It’s digital only, so no real world branches either.
- gt0 1y agoMy bank in Australia has a great desktop website, but you have to do 2FA on your phone to access it. That means even though I prefer to use the desktop site, I still need to be able to run the app too.
- edg5000 1y agoThe biggest bank in the Netherlands at least requires the app to confirm payments. Although they do still have these paper slips (maybe) for transfers but that cannot be used for ecommerce
- derkades 1y agoING? You can choose to receive a hardware device instead of using the app.
- jolmg 1y ago> Although they do still have these paper slips (maybe) for transfers Are you describing checks?
- ahartmetz 1y agoWritten (on paper) transfer orders. You fill them out at home and throw them into a special mailbox at the bank. Old people still use them, I even used them occasionally 20 years ago or so because they sometimes came with invoices, pre-filled with receiver details, so they were about as convenient as online transfer.
- disgruntledphd2 1y ago> The biggest bank in the Netherlands at least requires the app to confirm payments This is (I believe) part of PSD2, so basically all EZ banks require this now. Hilariously enough, they still have absurdly weak passwords but apparently they meet security requirements by forcing you to confirm stuff on your phone.
- p0w3n3d 1y agoUbuntu touch has an Android compatibility layer
- MattyRad 1y agoI glanced at Ubuntu Touch, but its device compatibility looked severely lacking (https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/).... I have old Pixel phones I could potentially try it out on, but the last Pixel phone that is officially supported is the 3a. So that is a bummer.
- xandrius 1y agoDevice compatibility is not a feature occurred naturally, it's the result of people wanting and then working to get it supported. So, if you're interested in adding more devices, join the community and see what you can do!
- Lutzb 1y agoChicken egg situation. I would be interested to contribute, but I cannot run it on any of my devices. Alas I am not contributing.
- p0w3n3d 1y agoJust buy a FairPhone. That's what I'm considering to buy ATM.
- d3Xt3r 1y agoThere are decent Linux phones you can buy now, such as the FuriPhone FLX1 (Debian), Volla Quintus (Ubuntu Touch), Jolla C2 (SailfishOS) etc. The best part is that all of them also support running Android apps (via Waydroid or similar compatibility layer), so you get the best of both worlds.
- IshKebab 1y agoYeah... Does it support WhatsApp? If not that's a deal-breaker in most of the world.
- xandrius 1y agoUsing Waydroid, you can run many/most Android apps unmodified. So, yes, it's possible :)
- ronsor 1y agoMost of the world loves being shackled by a Meta product for some reason. The allegiance to WhatsApp is mindbending.
- XorNot 1y agoSignal desperately needs "Signal for Business". Sell a way for businesses to send trusted communications to their customers in sensitive industries - i.e. healthcare would be a big one. They need both an actual revenue stream, but also that sort of professional messaging can drive adoption which ultimately furthers the Signal mission. Plus all those things could desperately use good secure messaging systems.
- stavros 1y agoHuh, that wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
- bobsmooth 1y agoWhatsApp works with your phone number. If you have someone's number, you have their WhatsApp. And since basic text messaging is terrible and RCS still isn't universal, WhatsApp is used.
- pdntspa 1y agoFree unlimited global text messaging in a time when people with very low incomes dealt with very low limits or per-message fees. Much of the love was built before Facebook took it over.
- doug_durham 1y ago"Refreshing" is an interesting adjective to use. I don't want a refreshing OS. I want a rock stable OS that sips battery.
- xandrius 1y agoThere are so many ways one can go about telling people that Android and iOS are not the only viable options for a mobile OS. If an adjective is sufficient to make you fall back to the mean then there wasn't much one can do to convince you, I'm afraid.
- fsflover 1y agoUbuntu touch has a locked-down filesystem, like Android does. Mobian, PureOS and postmarketOS behave much more like regular GNU/Linux.
- smm11 1y agoNot a lot of life left in Pixel 3 phones.