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Fastmail desktop app
- tomekw 1y agoDoes anyone know if this is Chrome in disguise?
- DarkCrusader2 1y agoIt is not available for linux in the download page despite the article saying otherwise.
- kritr 1y agoI was looking for this 2 days ago for a new computer setup. I haven’t had a chance to download this yet, but hoping that it has native keybindings. (Cmd+N) on mac for composing a new email or something similar. I know fastmail’s built in keybindings are robust, but I can’t keep track of them all.
- archb 1y agoYes, the keyboard shortcuts are available, but I am unable to see browser navigation shortcuts like 'command + left arrow' to navigate to the previous page.
- ggm 1y agoElectron apps.. didn't I read something here on HN about them burning battery on OSX?
- SG- 1y agoolder versions that have a bug do. they are using Electron 38.2.2 which doesn't have the bugged rendering code.
- mmh0000 1y agoIt’s not an “app” in the traditional sense. Just a webpage with a bundled web bowser (electron). This is like the worst of everything. A terrible noncustomizable browser and a poor email client glued together.
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- echelon 1y agoObsidian is an Electron app, and it's one of the best apps in the world. Don't hate on the tech stack.
- isolatedsystem 1y agoYes. I'm over the hatred for Electron too. Programmers have few options if they want cross-platform compatibility without Electron. What else are they going to use? QT? Please, give me a break. Some angelic developers like the KeepassXC guys still use QT, but that is a tough road to go down on. For the rest of them, Electron Or Bust I'm afraid.
- bigstrat2003 1y agoI would unironically rather have nothing than an Electron app in most cases. They are that bad. And in this case the app doesn't even add anything of value. Literally any email application will let you do the same thing.
- dymk 1y agoWhat is that bad about them?
- tankenmate 1y agoWaste of disk, RAM, and CPU. Tabs in your browser at least try to share those; but no chance of that with Electron.
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- pixelatedindex 1y agoSurely it’s more efficient to just ignore this release and continue using the browser than it is to switch providers? Unless there’s another reason, in which case I’m all ears. I’ve been quite happy with Fastmail as a provider.
- defraudbah 1y agomore efficient is to buy google workspace or ignore paid providers, we are not talking about efficiency for $5 a month to me this means this company is going to take shortcuts whenever possible instead of taking proper time to release something amazing.
- pixelatedindex 1y agoBuying Google workspace is not an option for me because the whole point of switching for me is to de-Google myself. Appreciate your input though, I totally understand.
- defraudbah 1y agoI get it, fastmail is the easiest non-google option, likely the one with the biggest featureset+SLA too. It just makes me sad all electron garbage that people push around. and stop being nice to me, we are competing with reddit here
- cosmotic 1y agoWhat does this add over using IMAP with the built-in native client?
- tankenmate 1y agoOn the down side it's an Electron app, on the upside it's JMAP.
- WA 1y agoI use Mail on macOS, but occasionally the Fastmail web app in a browser. Here are a bunch of things I use the web app for besides configuration stuff: - Block sender (whole domain) - Report phishing - Mark as spam Because that stuff should be done on the server, not on the client and if you mark stuff as spam in Mail, it's on the client afaik.
- cosmotic 1y agoMarking as spam in mail.app moves to junk folder on server and triggers server side report as far as I know.
- k8sToGo 1y agoReplying to mail that arrived through masked email addresses will also reply with the masked email address and not accidentally leak your main address. Also creating masked mail addresses in the first place.
- agos 1y agoI would hope it uses JMAP, not IMAP
- cosmotic 1y agoWhy is this important to a user?
- archb 1y agoMostly performance benefits that JMAP enables, and masked email addresses feature for example. - https://www.fastmail.com/blog/how-and-why-we-built-masked-email-with-jmap-an-open-api-standard/ https://www.fastmail.com/blog/how-and-why-we-built-masked-em...
- boolean 1y agoWhat would be the benefit of this vs Chrome/Brave app and how does the memory consumption compare?
- tjbiddle 1y agoJust taking a glance and main benefit I'd say is offline support - which they also recently added to their mobile app. Also being able to make it your default app for email (and hopefully calendar?)
- boolean 1y agoOffline support already works in the Brave app. I've been testing it last couple of weeks.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 1y agoNo: offline has been supported in all modern browsers for a while now.
- kubihubi 1y agoFirst i read fairmail, now I am disappointed
- rtpg 1y agoI know Fastmail isn't the hugest place in the world and the set of skills involved but it feels a bit insulting to roll this out rather than contribute into Thunderbird in a way to get what Fastmail feels is necessary out there. Thunderbird has had a good number of QoL improvements, and the calendar plugins etc are quite niec. Just if one day search could... uhh... work, that would be nice
- defraudbah 1y agothey have an amazing team, integration with 1 pass, tons of good things and chose a shortcut like every other major company because it generates revenue, short wins over strategy
- rtpg 1y agoI don't hold it against them in the sense that this is the easiest stack to onboard onto, but all the recurring lost effort on native e-mail clients seem very unfortunate. Fastmail does, of course, probably consider its UI chops etc to be part of their value add. Just seems like if they also want to win over people who like native clients then "here's a bunch of shit that makes native clients also work very well with our offerings" is less of a lift while being more helpful overall. Maybe.
- sylens 1y agoThunderbird needs to adopt JMAP and then Fastmail will work great in it
- elashri 1y agoI am already using fmail3 [1] and before that fmail2 which is also a web wrapper but feels more native to mac than Electron apps. And I think it is written in swift. So I don't know why fastmail cannot do something similar after all these years. [1] https://fmail3.appmac.fr/ https://fmail3.appmac.fr/
- jacques-noris 1y agoThanks for this tip, looks much better than the electron app from Fastmail.
- amanzi 1y agoI love Fastmail, but this feels like a waste of time. I'd rather just leave Fastmail open in a browser tab, rather than install Flatpak just to load an Electron app with the web client in it.
- JodieBenitez 1y agoOffline mode can be useful where network connectivity is not great.
- Kudos 1y agoOffline mode works in a browser tab too.
- JodieBenitez 1y agoyes, but not at app.fastmail.com unfortunately.
- calcifer 1y agoI've had it for a while actually. Maybe they are rolling it out slowly?
- JodieBenitez 1y agoOh... my bad ! Turns out it was disabled by default... so yes, one less reason to use the standalone app.
- Kudos 1y agoHave you tried it lately? The webworker tech they added for the browser is almost definitely why this app exists at all.
- JodieBenitez 1y agomy bad, had to enable it in settings...
- deanc 1y agoUnderstandably, as technologists we are in uproar at yet another Electron app due to the widely-accepted performance concerns many have with them. But if you don't want to run this, you can always just run it in the browser as before. Nobody is forcing you to install it. I sometimes think we forget that Electron would have allowed them to ship this to customers super quickly, across all desktop platforms, and get a nice-looking application in to the hands of their customers (who probably have been requesting this for years).
- eviks 1y ago> Electron would have allowed them to ship this to customers super quickly So why didn't it? The company launched two decades ago
- wiseowise 1y ago> “We” (a couple of fanatics)
- pjmlp 1y agoSomehow we used to do that in the middle of 16 bit home computer mess, even when it required writing everything in Assembly. Don't complain about Google taking over the Web, when everyone keeps packaging Chrome with their applications and calling it a native app.
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- enriquto 1y agoAs a happy paying user of fastmail, I'm beyond saddened that they are wasting my hard-earned money in this... what, electron bundle? There is already a fastmail desktop app. It's called thunderbird. And there are many more, for all possible tastes!
- apples_oranges 1y agoWhy the dislike of electron? It’s not worse than a website resource wise ..
- ho_schi 1y agoElectron is Flash for the Desktop. https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/ https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/ * Non-native UI toolkit * Massive waste of resources (CPU, RAM, Battery, Disk). Consumption of 500 MB RAM for idle is the norm. * Slow. * Often issues with autonomous, local operation. * Security -> Browser Engine It is always better to use a well-working application with your native UI-Toolkit: * Linux: Evolution, Geary, K-Mail, Claws, whatever TUI application you prefer. And Thunderbird. * macOS: Apple Mail or Thunderbird. * Windows: Please. Stop using Windows. You harm other people. Start with using Thunderbird :) The “Electron” from Signal is one of the best applications using Electron. It is fat. Even in this case people resist. Signal isn’t supporting a stable API but: https://github.com/boxdot/gurk-rs https://github.com/boxdot/gurk-rs TUI :) Electron is used, when a company wants to save on developer. All users pay with suffering from bad UI and their hardware resources. In this case it is something nobody asked for?
- lmz 1y agoIs Thunderbird really that different bloat-wise? It also has a full browser engine inside of it.
- wltr 1y agoI use Thunderbird everywhere, but I want to contribute this to the conversation: you don’t have to have your email client open all day long. I open my email client few times a day, and that’s it. I do the same with my chats, but with the chats (especially the work ones) I’m expected to reply within minutes, unfortunately. And, well, that’s another topic. For email, I mostly don’t care whether it takes too much RAM, if the app is usable. I work with it, then I close it. That’s my workflow, at least. I believe I’m not alone in this. My iPhone is the mini server that gets all the notifications for the emails I need. (By being connected with the default email client.) So, if I want to reply from my laptop, I’ll open my app. Otherwise it’s closed.
- jofzar 1y agoGoing to post the unpopular opinion here, this is also good for them purely for deployments/sales.dont forget the common denominator of "open fastmail app on your windows computer" for the tech literate. I'm sure there was some deal that didn't get completed because of this.
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- lexlambda 1y agoI find it rather strange that so many email providers have to develop their own "app". There are so many good clients out there, and I'd rather have 1. The team focus on their core offering, and 2. the existing email client is for the same reason (limited developer time, and matureness) a much better choice for security
- yesbut 1y agoits so they can put ads in it without you being able to block them like you can in Thunderbird.
- happymellon 1y agoWhat adverts have Fastmail put in?
- pacifika 1y agoOne reason could be that they need one if there are unique differentiators on the roadmap that cannot be added into regular clients. I dont know if this is the case.
- mcny 1y agoThat's even more reason for fast mail to actually invest and coordinate with clients, especially with JMAP integration. This is from August 2019 https://www.fastmail.com/blog/jmap-new-email-open-standard/ https://www.fastmail.com/blog/jmap-new-email-open-standard/ This announcement is a slap in our faces.
- alisonatwork 1y agoThis is basically where I'm at. I love Fastmail, but going to the effort of trying to get JMAP standardized and then investing development effort to NOT put it in Thunderbird feels like there's no real intent to make email better for everyone, which is disappointing.
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- blub 1y agoIf AI is really making developers so much more productive, companies should invest that productivity into offering better technical solutions. This means native applications for each platform. I’m not a customer of Fastmail, because the laws in Australia are very anti-privacy and Fastmail is at their mercy. But my mail provider has exactly the same problem: a lame web app. This is not a “technical person” complaint. These so-called apps look and behave worse on macOS.
- archb 1y agoOn the same boat as everybody else that this is electron based and not a great experience. I think from a business perspective this is just meant to satisfy those customers that are asking for a standalone app.
- edweis 1y agoI would rather have more integrations with third parties rather than this. My main problem is that I have to put a lot of effort to not use gmail for my business because most of third-parties (like CRMs) work only/better with gmail. Fastmail team, how about a Gmail compatible API ?
- archb 1y agoDo you mean to access Fastmail as a client for your Gmail-hosted inbox? How about using the fetch feature that moves all emails to your Fastmail inbox, and the 'send as' feature where you can send emails out from your Gmail SMTP via Fastmail. Those two features already exist.
- mths 1y agoAlthough when setting this up, Gmail really make you feel like they might pull support at any minute. I wonder if Fastmail could log you in to Gmail in a way that's consistent with Google's security model, similar to how you can "log in with Google" on many services. I'd much prefer it over the app password thing.
- archb 1y agoNow that you mention it, I remember that's how Fastmail works today. They use app passwords for non-Google-hosted email inboxes, and 'login with Google' for Google-hosted inboxes.
- edweis 1y agoNot exactly. I use Fastmail to avoid using Google. However there are tons of services that require Google (or outlook) to work with your emails.
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- dewey 1y agoI don’t get the negative sentiment here. I know that as someone who uses a third party email client to use Gmail / Fastmail via manually configured IMAP I’m a very tiny minority. Most people probably use the web interface or the Gmail app on their phone. Nothing wrong with offering an option for people who prefer a desktop app, you don’t have to feel like you are the target audience for everything.
- Gys 1y agoOT: Does Fastmail offer search through email contents like gmail?
- rcMgD2BwE72F 1y agoYes
- stavros 1y agoYes, don't all providers? I search through my email fine.
- Gys 1y agoI was considering Protonmail (have a paid subscription for many years even) but that is e2e encrypted, which means searching emails needs a local index of all emails. I have many many years of emails and several client apps. So that is not an option for me. Therefore I wonder if this is different (‘better’) for Fastmail. It means Fastmail also can see the contents and that is ok, I just want to move away from US providers.
- Freak_NL 1y agoIt does. Why wouldn't it?
- nmjenkins 1y agoChief Product Officer of Fastmail here. I see a lot of comments here from people that don't appear to have actually tried using the app, which is a little disappointing; don't knock it 'til you've tried it! Happy to answer any questions, but to answer the main ones that are popping up: # Why Electron? Because it lets us build an app that works well across all major platforms with the resources we have available. Building an email/contacts/calendar app is a huge undertaking. Doing it from scratch on each platform is just not feasible for us. With Electron, we can maintain a single code base across all platforms so we can move faster, and keep feature parity everywhere. More than that though, we believe it lets us build a really great experience on each of these platforms, while offering a consistent UI for our customers across all their devices. Honestly, we can never out-native Apple because by definition whatever they do is "native", even if it sucks (Liquid Glass on the Mac is … not great UX). If that's your primary consideration, you will always be better with Apple's own Mail app, so it's pointless us trying to build something in that space. (And instead we work to also make Fastmail the best service to use Mail.app with — which we believe it is!) # Why would you use this instead of the webmail? If you prefer to keep Fastmail in your browser, great! You can do so. But we hear from many customers that they would rather not have their email mixed in with their tabs. With a separate app you can see it in the dock, Cmd-tab to it, make it your default email app system wide etc. It also lets us integrate with the system, like the Mac menu bar and native context menus. # Why would you use this instead of an IMAP client? If you've ever used the Fastmail web interface you probably already know the answer, but for everyone else… 1. It's a lot faster. Compared to Apple's Mail.app for example (which is a good IMAP client!): - It resyncs way faster when you open the app, and uses a lot less data (JMAP is so much more efficient). - Moving between messages is quicker. With Mail.app there's often a slight lag between clicking a message and it rendering. In Fastmail, it's usually instant. 2. It's more powerful. We provide the best standards support out there, and are also working to make the standards better. But there's always going to be more that we can do when we control both the server and the client. With the Fastmail UI you can: - Add private memos to emails - Mute conversations to ignore replies - Pin important messages to the top of your inbox - Schedule messages to send in the future (and not need your laptop to be online then for it to work) - See related emails when you open your contacts. - Add events straight into your calendar - And much more (https://www.fastmail.com/features/). 3. It's got much better search. (Yeah, this is kind-of just "more powerful", but I'm calling it out because search sucks in most email clients0. # And finally… This is just a choice. We hope this is something that some of our customers will love, but we're not backing away from our commitment to open standards and encourage everyone to find what works best for them. I'll try to answer any other questions as I can.
- flyer23 1y agoI use fastmail for long time and this move is not good. Instead of investing into TB for example, they do Electron bloatapp... Will for sure never touch that thing
- kijin 1y agoWhy should Fastmail invest in Thunderbird, an open-source email client run by a completely unrelated organization? Of course they could, out of good will. But you can't demand that they do. This is just their webapp wrapped in an off-the-shelf browser engine. Hardly any development resources needed. It could have been quickly put together to tick a checkbox for some big client, the revenue from whom could help them work on features that actually matter more. None of us needs to use it. But somebody must have needed it, so here it is.
- AnonC 1y ago> Why should Fastmail invest in Thunderbird, an open-source email client run by a completely unrelated organization? One very good reason is that Fastmail created the JMAP protocol and while work on getting it into Thunderbird started several years ago, it hasn’t progressed. So JMAP is kinda stuck (obviously Microsoft is not going to put it in Outlook). It could’ve been a win-win-win for JMAP, Fastmail and Thunderbird to accelerate the implementation and support for JMAP within Thunderbird. This would/could help in JMAP adoption by other mail providers too.
- yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago> Why should Fastmail invest in Thunderbird, an open-source email client run by a completely unrelated organization? Of course they could, out of good will. It's likely cheaper to submit self-serving patches than to build and maintain your own email client. > But you can't demand that they do. Who's demanding anything?
- jph 1y agoI pay for Fastmail and I'm using the Fastmail desktop app right now. It's much faster than Thunderbird so far for me, and more convenient than a browser tab for me, and I'm especially liking the interconnections among mail, contacts, and calendar. The best feature for me is being able to click an email link anywhere on any web page, and have it lead to the Fastmail app. I do have two questions. The app on my macOS system is using 700MB RAM; is that for Electron? The majority of RAM is showing as GPU rendering; is that for font smoothing?
- ho_schi 1y agoIt is Electron. Sadly this is usual for Electron applications, the company saves developers and you pay with hardware. Software scales well, so investing in development would be much more efficient. It is not strictly necessary to waste so much resources with Electron. But usually it is, because optimization also requires developer time. Even rather good Electron applications like Signal require much more resources than a native application (Gtk, Qt, Cocoa). The right choice would be by Fastmail to cooperate directly with Evolution, Thunderbird, K-Mail, Apple Mail and help them were needed.
- Arnt 1y agoWhat makes you think they don't?
- benbucksch 1y ago> The right choice would be by Fastmail to cooperate directly with Evolution, Thunderbird, K-Mail, Apple Mail and help them were needed. Funny, I've actually been sitting literally right next to the Apple Mail developers when Fastmail developers (who were sitting on my other side and across from me) helped them make Apple Mail work better with Fastmail and other modern mail servers, in various ways. Fastmail is very active in the IETF, creating new RFCs that standardize modern email protocols [1] and adapting existing protocols to user needs [2]. Unlike Gmail and Outlook/Exchange cough cough, who I cannot even reach for serious bugs. > native application (Gtk, Qt, Cocoa) Do you know a cross-platform app (Windows, Mac, and Linux) that has many millions of users and is implemented natively on each of these platforms (Gtk, Qt, Cocoa, Win32 etc., respectively), not with JavaScript? I can't think of any. There are limits in the real world. Software teams don't scale well. Corporate agendas are set 5 management levels above the developers. Most of the apps you mention have very serious technical dept that would require a complete rewrite to get out of. I speak from first hand experience of 25 years working on 3+ different mail clients, most of them with millions of users. Seasoned developers usually made their decision after much deliberation. The "right choice" (your words above) is often far more complex than an observer can possibly know. Please don't throw peanuts at the developers from the peanut gallery [3][4]. [1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8621.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8621.html [2] Many like https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8474.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8474.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_gallery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_gallery [4] https://tenor.com/de/search/muppets-peanut-gallery-gifs https://tenor.com/de/search/muppets-peanut-gallery-gifs
- entropyie 1y agoI am a paid user. I use Thunderbird on my desktop. This is a waste of time and money. Put the money into proper EU based data centres instead.
- twleo 1y agoI don't need another desktop app... The only thing I miss is the official API for the scheduled sending feature. That's the only thing I would open the webpage app to do.
- mfru 1y agoAnother Electron app that could have been a PWA, if PWAs were good to work with across all OSes.
- thehamkercat 1y agoI saw this post on telegram, and noticed something weird about the webpage preview <meta property="og:description" content="Fastmail now has native apps for Mac, Windows & Linux."> It says "native", electron is opposite of that
- bartvk 1y agoThat's a disappointment, and in the screenshots, the app actually doesn't look native at all. The new Liquid Glass design, with the round search boxes and transparency, is nowhere to be seen.
- gausswho 1y agoTherein lies a detraction to making native apps. Binding yourself to how native apps look now will be a liability. People will judge you as outdated when the operating system moves on to a new groove.
- mvdtnz 1y agoNo one uses desktop apps. Maybe you should spend the engineering effort to make improvements to your phone apps. Like make it so the Android app doesn't load and then re-load every time I open it. Or support for offline mail.
- master-lincoln 1y agoMay I ask how old you are? Interesting perspective to me that " no one uses desktop apps". In my bubble people only use the phone to get notified about mails, but do the interaction on a desktop computer using some mail app
- mvdtnz 1y agoI'm 40.
- yuvadam 1y agoHappy Fastmail customer for many many years, I don't want or need a desktop app. Have a solid, well-performing web app, that's all I care about.
- internet_points 1y agoThe Previous Post https://www.fastmail.com/blog/not-written-with-ai/ https://www.fastmail.com/blog/not-written-with-ai/ is also worth a read :-)
- nipperkinfeet 1y agoIs this a native client?
- pjmlp 1y agoElectron App.
- loeribas 1y agoIf you want a fast small (6 MB vs 318 MB) Fastmail client, use FMail3 (https://fmail3.appmac.fr https://fmail3.appmac.fr). More options than this Electron shell around a web page. Use tabs, windows, Hook and much more. JMAP API handles real quick notifications. Have a look.
- ksec 1y agoIf Electron is inevitable, could we make electron slimmer? We don't need backwards compatibility, and we don't need certain features from browsers. Is it even possible to compile without them ?
- uncompressed 1y agoI love Fastmail, but I don't understand why they chose Electron for this. It's totally fair that they want to keep it web-based, but why ship a 318 MB memory hog? Why not something lighter like Tauri or a custom wrapper like Fastmate [1] did? [1] https://github.com/joelekstrom/fastmate https://github.com/joelekstrom/fastmate
- snapplebobapple 1y agoI dont know why you guys even want native apps anymore. Zen browser with multicontainer extension is a thing of beauty. Everything automagically sandboxing itself and using appropriate socks5 per container is amazing and it mostly just works across my various computers/operating systems.
- solarkraft 1y agoIt looks really good! Does it use JMAP? Is it open source? I’d really like to see a modern E-Mail client. Just in general. Most I’ve seen just aren’t appealing at all.
- archb 1y agoIt should be JMAP because that's the primary protocol that Fastmail as a email hosting company (not a email client) operates on. I don't think that's open source based on the blog post alone, and I don't think they have a reason to build a separate email client with advanced features. This app is likely just meant to serve the needs of the business clients that have asked for a separate app rather than using the website.
- pona-a 1y agoFastmail's previous stance on implementing PGP in their clients was that it would be impossible for them to guarantee they couldn't send the user malicious JavaScript over the wire. Now that you have a local app, would you consider implementing PGP? I expect this would be very straightforward using something like OpenPGP.js, or perhaps by integrating with a GPG agent to handle the heavy lifting. You could also reimplement some QoL features like E2E search by building a local index of seen cleartext messages, or perform spam filtering via local NLP models—though in my experience, I never saw any encrypted spam. Threading UI might use a cleartext copy, or instead of Thunderbird's "Subject: ...", it could use a random UUID while preserving cleartext "RE: " patterns. PGP is a very simple standard and could have become the default if not for some unfortunate client UX. If a major mail client automatically imported or generated a key on first install, required the user to write down a BIP-style mnemonic for private key recovery (PGP private key containers are quite large, so this might rely on symmetrically encrypting a provider-side backup), and attached the public key to every outgoing email—enabling end-to-end encryption automatically, with trust established on first use—I’d expect that a quarter of all human email traffic could have instantly become secure, eliminating decades of complexity built to sustain the illusion of trusted parties. A provider offerring this UX within an interoperable standard could be the only push it needs. You might object to TOFU as suboptimal, but it has been the standard in many encrypted messaging systems: Signal, for instance, uses key servers to distribute keys and relies on users to verify shared secrets out-of-channel, as does WhatsApp. If this simple manual verification UX could be integrated with Web of Trust, it could automatically vouch for the user, showing a reference path for each of your contacts. Even without that, it is better to accept a one-time risk of key exchange compromise than to face the continuous possibility of eavesdropping.
- braebo 1y agoThanks for this! I just signed up for Fasmail for the first time yesterday, and was bummed they had no Desktop app.. crazy timing. Tauri is much less horrendous than Electron, but I’m fortunate enough to have a MacBook that’s happy to run 100 Electron apps without breaking a sweat, and it’s much easier for me to hack on a browser or web view than a native app.
- atraac 1y agoI'm a fairly happy Fastmail user but as someone who now works in two timezones, I'm kind of disappointed with its calendar. Especially that they advertise with 'Email and calendar made better' slogan. There's still no way to display two timezones like Google Calendar does, there's still no 'book a slot link' feature, it consistently forces meetings to be added to main Fastmail calendar and not the one I set as default. It's overall very disappointing, to the point where I still have to rely on Google for calendar for work-related things. If you read up on reddit they are notoriously ignoring all community feature requests. My subscription ends next year and I'm still questioning whether I want to continue. Desktop app is the last thing it needs.
- smcleod 1y agoSeems like a waste of money / development effort. Does anyone really want yet another electron chrome wrapper? OS's already come with mail clients.
- wodenokoto 1y ago> Work whenever, wherever, with full offline support, just like our mobile apps. That one surprised me. I’ve been using the iOS app for, I don’t know. A decade? And I have never been able to check emails while offline. Is there a setting I missed?