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My Deus Ex lipsyncing fix mod
- laidoffamazon 1y agoMight be the greatest game ever made. I was raving like a lunatic about it to a friend in public once and a guy next to us turned around and interrupted me to say it’s the only game he’s ever played because he felt no other games could top it.
- durakot 1y agoIt's true, Warren Spector won PC gaming and it's just been downhill with snazzier graphics since.
- glenstein 1y agoI was really excited when he was announced to be working on System Shock 3 which unfortunately ended up getting shelved.
- zpeti 1y agoCame here just to see comments like this. Still my favorite game by far and I wish I could forget about it so I could replay it without remembering :)
- glenstein 1y agoYeah. I was just a teenager when I first played, but the prison escape and the associated revelations were breathtaking to me and once of my first "holy shit" moments in playing a PC game. And not the only such moment just from that game! The Agent Navarre airplane scene was incredible. And I loved that you had conversations, like with the Australian expat at the Hong Kong bar or the AI, or the terrorist at the statue of Liberty, that were good conversations where the payoff was just intellectual curiosity and the content itself. Hong Kong was amazing to just explore too. I still haven't played anything like it some 25 years later unless The Nameless Mod counts.
- amatecha 1y agodamn, for real? I still haven't played it -- I didn't have a Windows machine when it came out, and by the time I did have one, it slipped through the cracks.. it's really that good? That reminds me I do have one friend who says it's his top favorite game, actually, heh. It's especially strange I haven't played it since I generally love cyberpunk/dystopian stuff like that!
- durakot 1y agoIt is the best PC game ever made, but I don't think it hits the same in 2025... one of those things where you had to be there.
- Semaphor 1y agoWhile I don’t agree with the best ever chorus, I’d say it holds up decently well with mods. The HD mod makes the graphics acceptable, and I replayed it in 2023 or something and it was still great.
- Terr_ 1y agoA better rendering-engine is a no-brainer—the original shadows tend to become olive-banded messes—but my experience with texture-pack mods isn't as good. IIRC they tended to make the overall experience worse, with jarring inconsistencies of high-poly/high-res objects versus unmodified portions of the environment. Plus nowadays "low res" is sometimes it's own art-style. :p
- qmr 1y agoPersonally anything since Quake II / UT / HL era impresses me.
- stavros 1y agoI think things are a product of their time, and you had to be there for the vast majority of it. The Matrix was a revolution when it came out, but now it just kind of looks the same as everything else (even dated), but that's because everything else copied it.
- iammrpayments 1y agoWhen I first played this game, I couldn’t speak english and just thought it was cool. I still remember the exact moment I learned the word “surrender” from the terrorist leader at the statue, because I’ve replayed the first level hundreds of times, since my pirated version of the game would crash around one of the first levels. When I was a late teenager I learned english and my mind was blown that the game actually had deep meaning behind it.
- cornhole 1y agoit is the most based game i've ever played
- Lammy 1y agoGood thing it's just fiction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46oDDnE1Z6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46oDDnE1Z6o
- iberator 1y agobased?
- kridsdale1 1y agoHe’s saying it kicks ass because it doesn’t pull punches on politics and conspiracy theory discussion and analysis.
- sph 1y agoWhile still not treating its audience like idiots. A modern game with political undertones would be much more in your face in a us vs them kinda way and unable to deal with any sort of nuance, just like our political discourse.
- karel-3d 1y agoI played it last time in 2007 or so. I wonder how the themes of the original game hit today, in 2025, the world being what it is now.
- scott_w 1y agoI recall watching a review in 2020/2021 where the reviewer stated how awkward he felt about the way it just took every conspiracy theory and just asked “what if it were true?” Bear in mind that, at this time, people genuinely believed there was some nutjob conspiracies being revealed by QAnon. Ironically, half of them seemed to come directly from Deus Ex…
- glenstein 1y agoDeus Ex was drawing from a palpably '90s flavor of fascination with aliens, conspiracies, and alternative history. In the present day that same subject matter is unfortunately associated with things like vaccine denial and anti-democratic nationalistic movements. It's the difference between the X-Files and Alex Jones, essentially.
- LarsDu88 1y agoSeveral years ago Elon Musk did an interview with Marques Lee Brown praising the original Deus Ex and stating his disappointment with the sequel. In the intervening years he's invested tons of money into neuroaugmentation, capturing global telecommunications in a massive satellite array, buying out the US president, and poured money into a compute cluster for a superintelligent AI finetuned to be obedient to his will (although it deviates from time to time) Basically Elon has turned into the supervillain Bob Page from Deus Ex sans the "globalist agenda" and with a dash of stormfront white nationalism to boot. The original game takes place in 2052, and we are headed straight towards that dystopia.
- RangerScience 1y ago"At last, we at Unicorn Startup, Inc have built the Torment Nexus from the famous sci-fi story Don't Build The Torment Nexus"
- RangerScience 1y agoIMO - There's a few games that match it, but nothing "in the same category". Braid, Portal, Stanley Parable come to mind. (Also what I hear about Baldur's Gate 3, but I haven't played.) But the depth of character, discussions on morality - I still reference the MJ12/Illuminati portrayal from Deus Ex as a discussion on leadership and morality - the depth of gameplay, the way it created a feel of a much bigger, open world.
- fluoridation 1y ago>Also what I hear about Baldur's Gate 3, but I haven't played. They're very different, so they're difficult to compare. BG3 is very much a tabletop RPG in electronic form, with a focus on tactics and positioning. I guess you could call it fantasy XCOM. In terms of player choices, BG3 is more open, though I'd say it's almost to its detriment, because it's jankier than DX. You'll probably get at least one bugged out quest during a playthrough. Nothing game-breaking, but still. It kind of kills the immersion.
- kridsdale1 1y agoBut the spirit of the post is correct, both are games that you the player mold around you as you play. They aren’t just hallways of content.
- laidoffamazon 1y agoIm playing BG3 right now and im very impressed. Also feel this way about New Vegas is a league beyond the Bethesda Fallout games.
- forgotTheLast 1y agoDisco Elysium
- sph 1y agoI was 14 and impressionable, but when I played, the "twist" of the game coincided exactly with the moment I decided to switch to the "terrorists" and tried to kill Anna Navarre. Then the rest of the game went exactly as I hoped it would. It completely blew my mind. I'm not ashamed to say that Deus Ex was extremely formative and the reason why now, almost in my 40s, I still read about political philosophy, anarchism, and cultivate a healthy distrust of the government and mass media. Which in turn also gave me a direct pipeline towards crypto-anarchism and Internet privacy rights.
- kridsdale1 1y agoJust don’t move to Idaho and form a militia. If you do, get better helmets.
- DuncanCoffee 1y agoIt's the game that made me stop using cheats. I was young and discovered cheat codes and used them in every game that made them available. I remember completing Deus Ex and finding it "just ok", but then I read how people talked about it, and realized that taking away the challenge from games was making them worse! Never used one again, aside from when I discovered Cheat Engine, which was amazing for somebody who was starting to get interested in programming.
- kridsdale1 1y agoI opened the level file I was currently in and filled a room with every weapon upgrade and skill booster. Then put bosses outside the door, saved, loaded the game. If I could get in, I could have the stuff. Kids these days don’t have access to edit their games like we did. It’s why crafting games are popular, the only “level editors” that remain once companies realized they could monetize extra content.
- michalion 1y agoWhat a shame ;-)
- carabiner 1y agoImpressive augmentation.
- igleria 1y agoLMAO, this goes to show that people can be funny with a few words. Why lot word, when few word do trick?
- shmerl 1y agoJust tested Deus Ex - Revision mod. It's pretty good so far.
- alias_neo 1y agoThanks for the heads up, I was wondering which version to play as I never played it the first time around. The GOTY was £0.83 on Steam and I've installed the revision Mod which the comments say is the one you _should_ play as it's better than the "remaster".
- lII1lIlI11ll 1y agoRevision deviates too much from the original, often not in a good way. I would suggest you to start with GMDX as a mode that strives to very carefully fix and improve the game without introducing random changes for no good reason.
- alias_neo 1y agoThanks for the tip. I'll look into it. Revision was a one click install on my handheld from the Steam store, but it looks like I'll have to figure out how to install GMDX by hand into the Proton directory for the game. Worth it though I think, I prefer to play as true to original as possible with only QoL changes.
- anthk 1y agoGet Lutris, it supports the GMDX mod.
- alias_neo 1y agoI have lutris, but i just installed GMDX by downloading the binary and running it from CLI with WINE and pointing it at the Steam game directory, it was actually really straight forward. My past experience with trying to get mods on Proton games was much more complicated, but this seems to work fine; a little buggy, but once in gameplay it plays nicely, tested a few minutes of the tutorial on my lunch break and no issues.
- klipklop 1y agoThis is giving me another reason to play DX again.
- noident 1y agoThe janky lip sync gave us one of the funniest videos of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js02m-7qHyE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js02m-7qHyE
- Lammy 1y agoAnd the voice acting one of the second of third funniest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHX5-SvRXTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHX5-SvRXTs
- fennec-posix 1y agoYES, oh my god, I remember this. The funniest part for me was definitely the way they imitated the jank lipsync from the game.
- AdmiralAsshat 1y agoDeus Ex doesn't need parody videos to achieve one of the funniest videos of all time: https://youtu.be/ekVI_UoEYRc?si=f-txpkn32J3S8YQj https://youtu.be/ekVI_UoEYRc?si=f-txpkn32J3S8YQj
- SJC_Hacker 1y agoWhen I originally played it back in the day, there was one scene, combined with some "gameplay decisions" which had me completely lose it. On the mission where you have to assasinate Lebedev in the airport, when you finally get to him on the airplane you start a conversation, but are interrupted midway by your fellow agent Anna something, who proceeds to kill Lebedev. Well since this wasn't my first playthrough, I knew where the whole thing was headed so I decided to plant some LAMS on the approach to see what would happen. And what did happen was one of the funniest scenes in a video game. You hear Anna's footsteps, the camera angle change from the dialogue-style camera to a zoom out, and JC turns to the hallway she is coming from. LAMs go off, Anna lets out a scream, JC turns right back to Lebedev and just continues chatting as if it was some type of minor disturbance I must have laughed for a good 10 minutes or so
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- Areibman 1y agoFor fans of the game, Aspyr just announced Deus Ex: Remastered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1RdKezTYNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1RdKezTYNk However, fans of the game are calling it "Demastered".
- tryauuum 1y agoyes, looks ugly. Why can't people make games where every surface is flat, my brain loves the unrealistic perfection of it
- izacus 1y agoFans of a game always crap on remasters so that means nothing really.
- IlikeKitties 1y agoThis one is a particular kind of bad.
- junaru 1y agoHN posters usually present wrong statements as facts so yours mean nothing really. See d2r, oblivion, etc.
- anthk 1y agoAs a GMDX user your comment and the Remaster are both irrelevant. The mentioned mod makes the 1st Deus Ex perfect. It enhances places, items, location, graphics... without breaking the original gameplay and mood to please Gen-Zers.
- izacus 1y agoYeah, d2r and oblivion are both great. Thanks for confirming my point :P
- mrcarrot 1y agoIn a similar space, I'm pretty sure the recent remake & remaster of the two System Shock games were really well received, so that's hardly a given.
- fennec-posix 1y agoWonder if this works with Malkavian Mod?
- XorNot 1y agoDeus Ex OST remasters and remixes are one of my most frequent choices of music still. And the DuClare Chateau level remains one of my favorite plot beats in gaming.
- amiga-workbench 1y agoI miss games using tracked music, its a really unique sound.
- TapamN 1y agoThe headshot collision code in DX is broken as well. This is from memory from looking at the DX SDK years ago (+15 at least), but... The collision shape used for a character in DX is a single cylinder. The game looks at where on the cylinder the collision point of the shot is, and tries to figure out if it's a head, body, or leg shot. It does this by checking how high the collision point is, with the lower X% being legs, top Y% being the head, and the middle being the body. If a shot hits the head section, it runs some additional checks, and can sometimes still count as a body hit. There was some weird code that, after you stared at it long enough, looks like it ended up splitting the head area into compass aligned 1/8ths (so north, north-east, east, etc) and hits to the N-E-S-W octants would count as a head shot, and a hit to the NE-NW-SE-SW octants would count as body shots. (I couldn't tell if the angles rotate with the character, or are absolute relative to the world.) I think there was also a check for hits on the top cap of the cylinder, so that the hit would have to be close to the center of the cylinder to count as head hit, and near the outer rim would count as a body hit. Hm, I should just make a diagram. Here: https://imgur.com/a/KG6MF1k https://imgur.com/a/KG6MF1k I guess what they were trying to do was make the actual head hitbox a smaller section of the head level, so that a shot that should go over the shoulder and miss would just count as a body shot and not a true headshot. And if you made a test map, with the player and a static test enemy placed in a line, this could work reliably from a fixed position. But when you actually play DX, and approach enemies from various angles, headshots inexplicably fail.
- LarsDu88 1y agoThis explains the totally janky behavior of the stun prod and baton in the 5 playthroughs of this game I've done over the past 25 years
- Anvoker 1y agoAre you sure that the jankiness you describe is not related to you not being close enough to the enemy for it to count as a point blank hit? The engine does a simple distance check which is rather unforgiving, and if you utilize the range your melee weapon affords you, you will fail this point black attack check. This is just a guess on my part, but it's the #1 reason I've seen people be perplexed at seemingly inconsistent melee stealth takedown behavior. If you first push yourself as close as you can get to the enemy model and attack the general area of their torso, it works every single time. But again, this is just me taking a guess as to what the problem you're referring to is!
- qmr 1y agoOne of the best games of all time. This is what Warren Spector made while Romero was busy pissing money away and constantly rewriting Daikatana. The one worthwhile thing to come out of Ion Storm. Lots of emergent gameplay. Almost always more than one way to solve each puzzle. Stealth, brute strength melee, long range combat, explosives, computer hacking ... Branching story with multiple endings. A must play.
- karlgkk 1y ago> The one worthwhile thing to come out of Ion Storm. Anachronix too. Not a 10/10 game but an absolutely solid entry for the period.
- teddyh 1y ago*Anachronox
- Reubachi 1y agoOh my god! For 15 years I have been trying to recall the name ofthis game my mom got me randomly for for PC as a kid!!!!!!!!! I have googled EVERYTHING possible related to "late 90s to early 2000s PC game starting with A". THANK YOU SO MUCH!
- qmr 1y agoChatGPT is great for these tip of the tongue/joystick type things.
- faichai 1y ago"I didn't ask for this!"
- shoo 1y agoYou wanted orange, but it gave you lemon lime?
- jl6 1y ago“I am a prototype for a much larger system” presaged the catchphrase of our LLM era. “You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands.”
- TulliusCicero 1y agoLove the HL2 mention, I remember being very impressed by the lip sync/facial expression demo: https://youtu.be/Bdbhr2pZUgg https://youtu.be/Bdbhr2pZUgg Said demo has actually aged very well imo.
- CaptainOfCoit 1y agoIt was truly amazing at the time. Currently, I think the OD trailers are showcasing the SOTA when it comes to facial animations (guessing they're on Unreal Engine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi-5xTlWiiM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi-5xTlWiiM Wonder if we'll see similar differences in the future between the OD trailer and whatever is SOTA in ~10 years.
- rpodraza 1y agoI spill my drink!
- foldr 1y agoMy favorite recent Deus Ex discovery is that you can skip the entire Paris sewer section of the game by grenade jumping off the Paris rooftops and then grenade climbing into the area containing the entrance to the Catacombs. Nothing breaks! (The real pros can do it all in a single jump.)
- shoo 1y agolots of good stuff in Warren Spector's 2017 GDC Deus Ex postmortem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tffX3VljTtI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tffX3VljTtI Warren's 6+2+1 questions before starting a game project; Team 1 & Team A (no one wanted to be Team B or Team 2); the day we hit pre alpha and realised the game was not fun; LAM wall climbing & problem solving with explosive barrels; origin of the name JC Denton
- Tade0 1y agoAs a side note one of the composers of Deus Ex's OST, Alexander Brandon, has a YouTube channel where he regularly answers questions from viewers: https://www.youtube.com/@AlexCBrandon https://www.youtube.com/@AlexCBrandon
- scbrg 1y agoOne of my favorite pieces of game music ever, perhaps only rivaled by Morrowind's. Thanks to your link I also learned that Alex has done some voice acting work, including the voice of Ancano in Skyrim! Thanks for posting :)
- donkdonk 1y agoInteresting mod and writeup. But for me the jankiness is part of what makes Deus Ex so good. Together with the special voice acting and what not.
- Yeul 1y agoThey actually hired professional actors for some roles but NPCs are pretty bad...
- kridsdale1 1y agoNOT ADVISABLE TO GO IN TO THE CANAL AT NIGHT I SPILL MY DRINK!
- jsheard 1y agoModders have put a ton of effort into fixing and restoring this game. The developers originally wanted to let players choose the protagonists gender, but they didn't have the resources to make it happen, so of course the community ended up redubbing JCs entire script and editing the rest to bring it back almost seamlessly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDOv1W6-Cc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naDOv1W6-Cc
- qiine 1y agowow crazy stuff!
- vivzkestrel 1y agodont forget the deus ex coop mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1948676361 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=19486...
- AdmiralAsshat 1y agoThat voice actress totally nails JC's monotone delivery!
- butlike 1y agothey did a really good job with this
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- everyone 1y agoImo its crazy that there basically hasn't been a game made since, in it's genre, with the same level of ambition. Prey 2017 was fantastic.. but in terms of ambition it was a step back, it's basically an improvement on system shock 2. I do think there is an ultimate game out there that has not been made yet.. We could do it now though, combine a totally open simulation like minecraft with on-the-fly story / dialogue / characters by an LLM.
- SJC_Hacker 1y ago> Imo its crazy that there basically hasn't been a game made since, in it's genre, with the same level of ambition. I'm not sure what you mean by ambition. Deus Ex was pretty heavily criticized for having "last-gen" graphics What made Deus Ex stand out was the writing and atmosphere, and maybe some gameplay mechanics which hadn't become quite so popular. As you mentioned System Shock had already pioneered them, although that game didn't reach the level of popularity of Deus Ex which won game of the year in 2000 I'd also add in the music, to this day I still remember the main theme. Alot of games these days, don't even bother.
- fluoridation 1y agoWell, yeah. Who has ever said the best thing about Deus Ex is the visuals? The levels are boxy, the characters look and move like dolls, and the textures are blurry. Deus Ex is great in spite of this, not because of it.
- keyringlight 1y agoI think the closest we've had is Cyberpunk 2077, although it's still a very different game. I can appreciate why they're hard to do, when you start piling on variations in how the player can approach situations plus short and long term story/character choices it quickly starts multiplying the complexity and quantity of work involved to make something satisfying for dozens of hours
- dysoco 1y ago> Imo its crazy that there basically hasn't been a game made since, in it's genre, with the same level of ambition. I would argue that games like Cyberpunk 2077 or KCD2 are a logical step-up for the genre offering open world, next gen graphics, many more weapons, NPCs, interactions, etc. and quite ambitious. Same could be same of Skyrim 10 years ago.
- kapilkaisare 1y agoSurprised to see Deus Ex mentioned; I played the game first in the early 2000s and was entranced by the storyline, coming from shoot-em ups like Doom and Quake. I've played this game several times over the course of the last two decades, and while it hasn't aged very well, it remains one of my favorites. I can't recall any other game making me pause towards the end and considering the consequences of my actions.
- 12_throw_away 1y ago> Surprised to see Deus Ex mentioned I think it's in people's minds because A) "Deus Ex: Remastered" was announced this week [1] and B) many have remarked that the remaster low effort, and at least from its trailer, does not compare favorably to the many high quality community mods such as this one. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/3131640/Deus_Ex_Remastered/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/3131640/Deus_Ex_Remastere...
- gspetr 1y agoVery nice. I believe this is the 1st time in history that lips have been augmented.
- CarrieKalman 1y ago[dead]