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IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something

IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous especially with all the restrictions an applicant is under. It both suppresses wages and abuses the worker.

mavelikara 1y ago
> It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous It is ridiculous. Do you have a citation for the $50K number?
dbish 1y ago
Why not both?
- cogman10 1y ago
  Because I don't really want to penalize a company for bringing in foreign labor. If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person. What I care about is the current system isn't being used to find hard to find labor, it's used to bring in cheap labor in an abusive situation. We as a nation are really better off if we bring in the best in the world to work here with a cushy salary.
  - dbish 1y ago
    The fee should help ensure that only higher paying jobs or truly hard to find roles would be worth paying for as well (not that this is the right option, but playing it out). You would gladly pay 100k if the role already is high paying, it will be a small fraction of the cost, you won’t do that if it’s a couple year salary. It will also help curb abuse through multiple applications. I agree hard to find jobs for highly talented people (who are paid well) should be brought in.
    - cogman10 1y ago
      Well, again, I don't really care about prioritizing local hires. The 100k fee really only penalizes the company from hiring abroad. I'd much rather push everything into the salary of the person being hired. Both because it ends up raising the median salary for local workers and because it stimulates the local economy where that person is brought in. It's also a yearly fee. I think there's value in getting a very capable person working in your company and having a high salary is one way to make such roles highly competitive. A highly capable person will ultimately make everyone they work with more capable.
  - llm_nerd 1y ago
    >If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person It was never, ever that they "can't find someone".
    - victorbjorklund 1y ago
      If country has 10 qualified people but 15 positions to fill you cant find it by just hiring in the country. Then you just end up with a circle where the people move around.
      - llm_nerd 1y ago
        Yes, I also can make up imaginary math. 6 is bigger than 3. But 9 is less than 12. There are extraordinarily few roles handed out to H1Bs where there aren't enormous numbers of domestic options. Indeed, by far the biggest users of H1Bs in tech are shitty consulting firms like Cognizant, Infosys and Tata doing absolute garbage, low skill development. Yes, there are exceptions. There are truly unique talents in the AI space, for instance. Not someone to build Yet Another agent, but someone who actually understands the math. They are extraordinarily rare in that program. And for those exceptional talents, a $100K fee would be completely worth it. But they aren't going to pay it for an army of garbage copy-paste consultant heads. In actual reality it's just a way to push down wages by forcing Americans to compete with the developing world in their own country. In Canada we have "TFWs" filling the same role. It is a laughably unjustified, massively abusive program.
  - leopoldj 1y ago
    Multiple registrations are being filed for the same person in order to game the system. This is discussed in some details in a USCIS report [1]. The increased application fee is presumably to stem that practice. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/h-1b-specialty-occupations/h-1b-electronic-registration-process https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary...
    - cogman10 1y ago
      Honestly, with a much higher minimum salary I don't see a reason why the cap couldn't simply be eliminated removing the need to play such games.
  - loverofhumanz 1y ago
    "If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person." You're believing and repeating the propaganda. The H1B was sold to Americans as for this purpose and then very deliberately turned into a loophole for importing massive amounts of foreign labor. How silly is it to accept the idea that Big Tech companies like Google, Microsoft, and Tesla are not be able to hire Americans for any role they want. They're the richest companies on the planet! These companies use the H1B to increase their labor supply, suppress wages, and gain indentured workers. If they couldn't cheat by importing cheaper foreign labor they would have to compete against each other much more than they do for American workers. This is all about big companies rigging the system. They do not care if it's good or bad for America, the foreign workers, or anyone else. It's simple greed.
    - oytis 1y ago
      US has the highest salaries for software engineers in the world. If this is what suppressed salaries look like, then what do you think they should be paying? I think if the labour pool is further restricted by measures like this one, it can only lead to companies doubling down on opening R&D offices abroad.
      - loverofhumanz 1y ago
        They've almost all already doubled down and opened R&D offices abroad. They will do absolutely whatever helps them maximize profits. There are no ethics to it. American companies shouldn't be able to bribe American politicians into letting them cheat the market at the expense of Americans. If companies couldn't cheat by importing foreign workers they would have to hire and pay Americans more. They would also lobby for good things, like educating even more Americans to work for them. The system is corrupt.
    - 8note 1y ago
      this is also believing and repeating the propaganda, just a different propaganda. and entirely different propaganda is that without being able to hire so many people constantly, the work just doesnt happen, and companies downsize to save money rather than grow to make more money. a greedier facebook doesnt dump a ton of money into VR or ai glasses.
nine_k 1y ago
Can every industry pay $200k? I bet software, AI, or finance would be okay paying $200k, while e.g. hardware, aerospace, or biotech would have a harder time. The idea of requiring a high salary is reasonable, but I'd make it rather e.g. 120% of the median salary in a particular industry.
- wahnfrieden 1y ago
  If they can pay a $100k fee, they can pay a similarly higher wage instead
  - abirch 1y ago
    This makes sense if H1-Bs are about lack of talent instead of cheap labor.
    - wahnfrieden 1y ago
      That's what they're supposed to be about. OP proposed a way to put that into practice. Of course it is abused for cheap labor
- cogman10 1y ago
  Who would have a harder time? The company that wants to bring in employees? Sure. But I'm also sure that the top experts would be lining up to take such a job. The companies wouldn't struggle to find someone abroad. The percentage could be reasonable, but I think it's too easily gamed. You just know the company would try and say they are bringing in entry level people for whatever they want and use whatever lowest median they could find. There needs to be a fairly significant minimum salary to avoid such monkey business. An H1B job should be cushy. Otherwise, the company should simply raise salaries to find local workers.
  - nine_k 1y ago
    This is why I say about the median salary across a branch of industry. A company is free to bring in anyone they want, but not free to pay them entry-level salary then. They should rather pay entry-level salary to local folks, e.g. recent graduates. The point is to bring above-average workers from abroad, as you say. I don't think it's easy to game the median number, or the third quartile number if you prefer. Unless the salary distribution is severely bimodal, it should work reasonably.
secondcoming 1y ago
Having a $200k minimum salary will just see outsourcing to Asia / Eastern Europe.
- waynesonfire 1y ago
  Why is that a problem? Thats how the program should work, to recruit talent wherever it's found.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  That's going to happen regardless.
- curt15 1y ago
  Is there a special tax on income generated by off-shore workers? That would be the software analogue of tariffs on physical imports.
  - dmix 1y ago
    The opposite, there's a US corporate tax loophole for having operations overseas. https://thefactcoalition.org/tariffs-manufacturing-tax-breaks-for-offshoring/ https://thefactcoalition.org/tariffs-manufacturing-tax-break...
  - abakker 1y ago
    it is very difficult to determine this. Companies that do h1Bs are all multinational, so they can locate dev offshore and just say they did it internally. There's also the reality that even if you go out and try to evaluate the revenue that comes from IT, you basically can't get clean attribution even if you want to. many H1Bs are not working on customer facing product, but internal projects and that makes treating things like application maintenance or service desk pretty difficult to calculate for ultimate revenue outcome.
wahnfrieden 1y ago
You may have policy opinions but what would incentivize the current admin to require more money given to foreign workers vs keeping wages low (which also helps suppress wages for non-foreign worker peers industry-wide) while collecting more fees for federal use?
ericmcer 1y ago
Is it too complex to just look at the companies taxes and be like... "Hey you are paying H1B workers 25% less than their peers. You get hit with a fine". If you couldn't undercut H1B salaries there is little incentive to use them except for their desired purpose (you can't find any local workers).
- OkayPhysicist 1y ago
  Even paid identically, a company might prefer H1Bs for retention purposes. Having an indentured serf who's difficult for other companies to hire and is at constant risk of deportation if they lose their job is a winning prospect for the worst companies.
  - firstplacelast 1y ago
    It also prevents wages from rising, can't find anymore local talent at 80K/year so you hire H1B at that wage. If that didn't happen, wages would rise until they found someone local. I think something like equal pay and then a 10-20% fee that is funneled into american education/up-skilling efforts.
    - czl 1y ago
      Wages must rise to simulate local supply. If instead a foreign worker is hired and wages do not rise the local supply is not stimulated and the foreign worker being a short term solution causes a growing long-term problem: a growing inadequate local supply of high skilled labor. And if foreign workers are a "better deal" because they take more abuse (due to terms of their immigration) this further disincentives fair competition and makes the long-term problem larger.
  - DragonStrength 1y ago
    As my manager at Amazon once told me, “Amazon prefers H1Bs because they take more abuse.”
- BobbyJo 1y ago
  A great way to circumvent this is to build a large headquarters in an undesirable location. "No American software engineers are applying for my job in <random midwest town where I will be the only software employeer>! I need H1bs!"
rs186 1y ago
The nurse that helped save your life at ER might be on H1B getting paid $80k a year.
- jpadkins 1y ago
  the counterfactual is 'is there an equally qualified nurse who didn't get the position?' There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens.
  - cyberax 1y ago
    Because there aren't enough "equally qualified nurses". > There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens. No, there isn't. Even with the current AI mess, the unemployment for highly-qualified software engineers is 2.8%: https://www.ciodive.com/news/june-jobs-report-comptia-data-IT-labor-market/752354/ https://www.ciodive.com/news/june-jobs-report-comptia-data-I... The AI is now decimating the jobs for the recent CS graduates.
    - jpadkins 1y ago
      under-employment != unemployment. I carefully selected my words. And you switched from nurses to highly-qualified engineers. qualified nurses are having to get jobs at retail, etc to survive. For some sectors, it's importing cheap labor (aka wage suppression).
      - bamboozled 1y ago
        Hmmm, so a nurse can come from any country with any level of English and work in a US hospital without re-certification? There is a smell to this claim…
      - cyberax 1y ago
        The same applies to nurses. The nurse shortage has been basically non-stop since 80-s: https://nursejournal.org/articles/the-us-nursing-shortage-state-by-state-breakdown/ https://nursejournal.org/articles/the-us-nursing-shortage-st...
fred_is_fred 1y ago
It's not in this article but in others that this will be addressed. "The proposal would increase the wage floor for H-1B visa recipients from $60,000 to $150,000, eliminate the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program, and replace the current lottery-based selection process with a highest-bidder system." EDIT: This is a proposal by 1 senator - not Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484
- drdec 1y ago
  I would appreciate some links if you have them
  - fred_is_fred 1y ago
    Done above but that's a senate proposal. Sorry for the confusion.
fred_is_fred 1y ago
This article implies the minimum will be tripled. https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 EDIT: This is a proposal by 1 senator - not Trump.
fogzen 1y ago
IMO the minimum salary should be $0 and Americans should be free to hire whoever they want, without paying a fee and asking permission from the government. Non-citizens should be subject to the same minimum wage and workplace regulations as everywhere else. Whoever wants to come to America should be able to freely come, treated the same as anyone else. But that would be a free market that respected human rights, and Americans don't want that! Equality? Freedom? That's just marketing!
- danenania 1y ago
  If the non-citizen worker can't change jobs as easily as an American can, you still don't really have freedom.
- czl 1y ago
  > Whoever wants to come to America should be able to freely come, treated the same as anyone else. So just open USA borders to anyone that passes screening (security / health / etc)? What about gov subsidized welfare / healthcare / education / ...? Would you end all that? If not end it how would you handle the situation with current citizens vs the influx of foreigners who will expect these things be provided for them? And if those who show up start to vote for communism or some other ism that you do not like what will you do?
- s1artibartfast 1y ago
  Nobody wants that kind of equality, just like they don't want other people to have equal access to their bank account or home.
- rangestransform 1y ago
  my country should prioritize its own people first, second, third, fourth, fifth... and anyone else an incredibly distant last, if at all
woah 1y ago
The H1B program should be scrapped and replaced with a program where anyone (who passes some background check) can pay $100k a year for a green card
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  Rich drug dealers from corrupt countries rejoice! your green card is in the mail
  - woah 1y ago
    That's why you've got to pass the background check. It doesn't seem any more prone to abuse than the existing H1B program.
    - Braxton1980 1y ago
      How will the US perform a background check on people from other countries?
  - mrheosuper 1y ago
    Isn't that Trump golden card ?. Pay $5mil and boom, welcome to the US, rich drug dealer.
beefnugs 1y ago
They arent "trying to fix it" they are setting it up as corruptible, game-able, politically weaponizable

mavelikara 1y ago

> It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous It is ridiculous. Do you have a citation for the $50K number?

dbish 1y ago

Why not both?

cogman10 1y ago
Because I don't really want to penalize a company for bringing in foreign labor. If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person. What I care about is the current system isn't being used to find hard to find labor, it's used to bring in cheap labor in an abusive situation. We as a nation are really better off if we bring in the best in the world to work here with a cushy salary.
- dbish 1y ago
  The fee should help ensure that only higher paying jobs or truly hard to find roles would be worth paying for as well (not that this is the right option, but playing it out). You would gladly pay 100k if the role already is high paying, it will be a small fraction of the cost, you won’t do that if it’s a couple year salary. It will also help curb abuse through multiple applications. I agree hard to find jobs for highly talented people (who are paid well) should be brought in.
  - cogman10 1y ago
    Well, again, I don't really care about prioritizing local hires. The 100k fee really only penalizes the company from hiring abroad. I'd much rather push everything into the salary of the person being hired. Both because it ends up raising the median salary for local workers and because it stimulates the local economy where that person is brought in. It's also a yearly fee. I think there's value in getting a very capable person working in your company and having a high salary is one way to make such roles highly competitive. A highly capable person will ultimately make everyone they work with more capable.
- llm_nerd 1y ago
  >If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person It was never, ever that they "can't find someone".
  - victorbjorklund 1y ago
    If country has 10 qualified people but 15 positions to fill you cant find it by just hiring in the country. Then you just end up with a circle where the people move around.
    - llm_nerd 1y ago
      Yes, I also can make up imaginary math. 6 is bigger than 3. But 9 is less than 12. There are extraordinarily few roles handed out to H1Bs where there aren't enormous numbers of domestic options. Indeed, by far the biggest users of H1Bs in tech are shitty consulting firms like Cognizant, Infosys and Tata doing absolute garbage, low skill development. Yes, there are exceptions. There are truly unique talents in the AI space, for instance. Not someone to build Yet Another agent, but someone who actually understands the math. They are extraordinarily rare in that program. And for those exceptional talents, a $100K fee would be completely worth it. But they aren't going to pay it for an army of garbage copy-paste consultant heads. In actual reality it's just a way to push down wages by forcing Americans to compete with the developing world in their own country. In Canada we have "TFWs" filling the same role. It is a laughably unjustified, massively abusive program.
- leopoldj 1y ago
  Multiple registrations are being filed for the same person in order to game the system. This is discussed in some details in a USCIS report [1]. The increased application fee is presumably to stem that practice. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/h-1b-specialty-occupations/h-1b-electronic-registration-process https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary...
  - cogman10 1y ago
    Honestly, with a much higher minimum salary I don't see a reason why the cap couldn't simply be eliminated removing the need to play such games.
- loverofhumanz 1y ago
  "If a company can't find someone for a specific job or role then I don't care if they go abroad to find that person." You're believing and repeating the propaganda. The H1B was sold to Americans as for this purpose and then very deliberately turned into a loophole for importing massive amounts of foreign labor. How silly is it to accept the idea that Big Tech companies like Google, Microsoft, and Tesla are not be able to hire Americans for any role they want. They're the richest companies on the planet! These companies use the H1B to increase their labor supply, suppress wages, and gain indentured workers. If they couldn't cheat by importing cheaper foreign labor they would have to compete against each other much more than they do for American workers. This is all about big companies rigging the system. They do not care if it's good or bad for America, the foreign workers, or anyone else. It's simple greed.
  - oytis 1y ago
    US has the highest salaries for software engineers in the world. If this is what suppressed salaries look like, then what do you think they should be paying? I think if the labour pool is further restricted by measures like this one, it can only lead to companies doubling down on opening R&D offices abroad.
    - loverofhumanz 1y ago
      They've almost all already doubled down and opened R&D offices abroad. They will do absolutely whatever helps them maximize profits. There are no ethics to it. American companies shouldn't be able to bribe American politicians into letting them cheat the market at the expense of Americans. If companies couldn't cheat by importing foreign workers they would have to hire and pay Americans more. They would also lobby for good things, like educating even more Americans to work for them. The system is corrupt.
  - 8note 1y ago
    this is also believing and repeating the propaganda, just a different propaganda. and entirely different propaganda is that without being able to hire so many people constantly, the work just doesnt happen, and companies downsize to save money rather than grow to make more money. a greedier facebook doesnt dump a ton of money into VR or ai glasses.

nine_k 1y ago

Can every industry pay $200k? I bet software, AI, or finance would be okay paying $200k, while e.g. hardware, aerospace, or biotech would have a harder time. The idea of requiring a high salary is reasonable, but I'd make it rather e.g. 120% of the median salary in a particular industry.

wahnfrieden 1y ago
If they can pay a $100k fee, they can pay a similarly higher wage instead
- abirch 1y ago
  This makes sense if H1-Bs are about lack of talent instead of cheap labor.
  - wahnfrieden 1y ago
    That's what they're supposed to be about. OP proposed a way to put that into practice. Of course it is abused for cheap labor
cogman10 1y ago
Who would have a harder time? The company that wants to bring in employees? Sure. But I'm also sure that the top experts would be lining up to take such a job. The companies wouldn't struggle to find someone abroad. The percentage could be reasonable, but I think it's too easily gamed. You just know the company would try and say they are bringing in entry level people for whatever they want and use whatever lowest median they could find. There needs to be a fairly significant minimum salary to avoid such monkey business. An H1B job should be cushy. Otherwise, the company should simply raise salaries to find local workers.
- nine_k 1y ago
  This is why I say about the median salary across a branch of industry. A company is free to bring in anyone they want, but not free to pay them entry-level salary then. They should rather pay entry-level salary to local folks, e.g. recent graduates. The point is to bring above-average workers from abroad, as you say. I don't think it's easy to game the median number, or the third quartile number if you prefer. Unless the salary distribution is severely bimodal, it should work reasonably.

secondcoming 1y ago

Having a $200k minimum salary will just see outsourcing to Asia / Eastern Europe.

waynesonfire 1y ago
Why is that a problem? Thats how the program should work, to recruit talent wherever it's found.
MangoToupe 1y ago
That's going to happen regardless.
curt15 1y ago
Is there a special tax on income generated by off-shore workers? That would be the software analogue of tariffs on physical imports.
- dmix 1y ago
  The opposite, there's a US corporate tax loophole for having operations overseas. https://thefactcoalition.org/tariffs-manufacturing-tax-breaks-for-offshoring/ https://thefactcoalition.org/tariffs-manufacturing-tax-break...
- abakker 1y ago
  it is very difficult to determine this. Companies that do h1Bs are all multinational, so they can locate dev offshore and just say they did it internally. There's also the reality that even if you go out and try to evaluate the revenue that comes from IT, you basically can't get clean attribution even if you want to. many H1Bs are not working on customer facing product, but internal projects and that makes treating things like application maintenance or service desk pretty difficult to calculate for ultimate revenue outcome.

wahnfrieden 1y ago

You may have policy opinions but what would incentivize the current admin to require more money given to foreign workers vs keeping wages low (which also helps suppress wages for non-foreign worker peers industry-wide) while collecting more fees for federal use?

ericmcer 1y ago

Is it too complex to just look at the companies taxes and be like... "Hey you are paying H1B workers 25% less than their peers. You get hit with a fine". If you couldn't undercut H1B salaries there is little incentive to use them except for their desired purpose (you can't find any local workers).

OkayPhysicist 1y ago
Even paid identically, a company might prefer H1Bs for retention purposes. Having an indentured serf who's difficult for other companies to hire and is at constant risk of deportation if they lose their job is a winning prospect for the worst companies.
- firstplacelast 1y ago
  It also prevents wages from rising, can't find anymore local talent at 80K/year so you hire H1B at that wage. If that didn't happen, wages would rise until they found someone local. I think something like equal pay and then a 10-20% fee that is funneled into american education/up-skilling efforts.
  - czl 1y ago
    Wages must rise to simulate local supply. If instead a foreign worker is hired and wages do not rise the local supply is not stimulated and the foreign worker being a short term solution causes a growing long-term problem: a growing inadequate local supply of high skilled labor. And if foreign workers are a "better deal" because they take more abuse (due to terms of their immigration) this further disincentives fair competition and makes the long-term problem larger.
- DragonStrength 1y ago
  As my manager at Amazon once told me, “Amazon prefers H1Bs because they take more abuse.”
BobbyJo 1y ago
A great way to circumvent this is to build a large headquarters in an undesirable location. "No American software engineers are applying for my job in <random midwest town where I will be the only software employeer>! I need H1bs!"

rs186 1y ago

The nurse that helped save your life at ER might be on H1B getting paid $80k a year.

jpadkins 1y ago
the counterfactual is 'is there an equally qualified nurse who didn't get the position?' There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens.
- cyberax 1y ago
  Because there aren't enough "equally qualified nurses". > There is a lot of under-employment for highly qualified US citizens. No, there isn't. Even with the current AI mess, the unemployment for highly-qualified software engineers is 2.8%: https://www.ciodive.com/news/june-jobs-report-comptia-data-IT-labor-market/752354/ https://www.ciodive.com/news/june-jobs-report-comptia-data-I... The AI is now decimating the jobs for the recent CS graduates.
  - jpadkins 1y ago
    under-employment != unemployment. I carefully selected my words. And you switched from nurses to highly-qualified engineers. qualified nurses are having to get jobs at retail, etc to survive. For some sectors, it's importing cheap labor (aka wage suppression).
    - bamboozled 1y ago
      Hmmm, so a nurse can come from any country with any level of English and work in a US hospital without re-certification? There is a smell to this claim…
    - cyberax 1y ago
      The same applies to nurses. The nurse shortage has been basically non-stop since 80-s: https://nursejournal.org/articles/the-us-nursing-shortage-state-by-state-breakdown/ https://nursejournal.org/articles/the-us-nursing-shortage-st...

fred_is_fred 1y ago

It's not in this article but in others that this will be addressed. "The proposal would increase the wage floor for H-1B visa recipients from $60,000 to $150,000, eliminate the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program, and replace the current lottery-based selection process with a highest-bidder system." EDIT: This is a proposal by 1 senator - not Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484

drdec 1y ago
I would appreciate some links if you have them
- fred_is_fred 1y ago
  Done above but that's a senate proposal. Sorry for the confusion.

fred_is_fred 1y ago

This article implies the minimum will be tripled. https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 https://www.newsweek.com/h-1b-visa-change-proposal-2132484 EDIT: This is a proposal by 1 senator - not Trump.

fogzen 1y ago

IMO the minimum salary should be $0 and Americans should be free to hire whoever they want, without paying a fee and asking permission from the government. Non-citizens should be subject to the same minimum wage and workplace regulations as everywhere else. Whoever wants to come to America should be able to freely come, treated the same as anyone else. But that would be a free market that respected human rights, and Americans don't want that! Equality? Freedom? That's just marketing!

danenania 1y ago
If the non-citizen worker can't change jobs as easily as an American can, you still don't really have freedom.
czl 1y ago
> Whoever wants to come to America should be able to freely come, treated the same as anyone else. So just open USA borders to anyone that passes screening (security / health / etc)? What about gov subsidized welfare / healthcare / education / ...? Would you end all that? If not end it how would you handle the situation with current citizens vs the influx of foreigners who will expect these things be provided for them? And if those who show up start to vote for communism or some other ism that you do not like what will you do?
s1artibartfast 1y ago
Nobody wants that kind of equality, just like they don't want other people to have equal access to their bank account or home.
rangestransform 1y ago
my country should prioritize its own people first, second, third, fourth, fifth... and anyone else an incredibly distant last, if at all

woah 1y ago

The H1B program should be scrapped and replaced with a program where anyone (who passes some background check) can pay $100k a year for a green card

Braxton1980 1y ago
Rich drug dealers from corrupt countries rejoice! your green card is in the mail
- woah 1y ago
  That's why you've got to pass the background check. It doesn't seem any more prone to abuse than the existing H1B program.
  - Braxton1980 1y ago
    How will the US perform a background check on people from other countries?
- mrheosuper 1y ago
  Isn't that Trump golden card ?. Pay $5mil and boom, welcome to the US, rich drug dealer.

beefnugs 1y ago

They arent "trying to fix it" they are setting it up as corruptible, game-able, politically weaponizable