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If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of j

• justin66 1y ago
  > It consists of just 2 doses. Wasn't it 3 doses before?
  • pm90 1y ago
    you're right its 3, updated message
• baldr333 1y ago
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• abeppu 1y ago
  ... did you finish the series? I think for adults it should be 3 doses. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/administration.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/administration.html
• DaSHacka 1y ago
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  • buellerbueller 1y ago
    >I'd rather take my chances with the actual disease at this point.. Gross, @DaSHacka. Absolutely vile.
    • DaSHacka 1y ago
      Not as vile as having sex with someone who's already infected, whether protected/vaccinated or not.
      • buellerbueller 1y ago
        In a world of perfect information, you might have a point.
  • simmerup 1y ago
    Enjoy your warts
    • edgineer 1y ago
      Restrict your partners to Danes and you are unlikely to contract it.
    • DaSHacka 1y ago
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  • add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
    Once the libs chose the anti-disease side I suppose the right had no choice but to be pro-disease.
• comrade1234 1y ago
  Any way to test for previous exposure? I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't already have antibodies. I suppose it doesn't matter though.
  • Obscurity4340 1y ago
    Not sure but theres zero downside to getting it
    • toast0 1y ago
      Information from the CDC [1], indicates Adverse Reactions are similar to administration of a placebo, which is not zero. Any vaccine administration has potential for negative adverse reactions, it's reasonable not to get a vaccine if you judge the upside is not worth the downside, even if the downside is small. The CDC says: > Like all medical interventions, vaccines can have some side effects. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/recommendations.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/recommendations.htm...
      • freedomben 1y ago
        If it's similar to placebo, doesn't that imply that it's pretty much non-existent?
        • toast0 1y ago
          No, the CDC says (at my previous link): > A temperature of 100°F during the 15 days after vaccination was reported in 10% to 13% of HPV vaccine recipients. A similar proportion of placebo recipients reported an elevated temperature. If you take some research subjects, do nothing to them, and then ask how they did 15 days after, I would be surprised if 10-13% reported a 100F fever during that time. But, that's a reasonable result from a saline or hpv injection.
    • attila-lendvai 1y ago
      there's no zero downside (risk) of anything that makes a permanent state change in your immune system.
• rtaylorgarlock 1y ago
  And note i believe they just increased the recommended age of administration up to ~40yo? Throat cancer sucks. Get the vax.
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  • sillyfluke 1y ago
    Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?
    • JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax Vaccines are subject to stringent safety standards since they’re administered to healthy people. The age limit may suggest that at the time of the recommendation, in the relevant jurisdiction, the manufacturer had not studied its safety and efficacy in >40 year olds. (I also don’t think it’s an age limit as much as the upper end of a recommendation.)
      • LorenPechtel 1y ago
        It's an age limit to the approval caused by a lack of studies. To study it in over 45s you need suitable over 45s--but there aren't a lot of over 45s with risk but not prior exposure.
      • loeg 1y ago
        E.g., the Shingles vaccine simply hasn't been tested in <50 populations. But if you're under 50 and you've had the chicken pox, you should ask your PCP to prescribe the shingles vaccine off-label and go get it, because shingles sucks and the vaccine definitely works.
        • _heimdall 1y ago
          I don't follow your logic here. The GP comment is saying that the vaccine isn't available for populations it hasn't been tested for. Why are you recommending people ignore the fact that safety and efficacy testing isn't available for their population? And how can you say the vaccine definitely works for populations it hasn't been tested on?
• slaw 1y ago
  If you live outside of the US, you should get vaccine too. Even one dose is effective. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/ivac/the-power-of-a-single-dose-evidence-for-a-single-dose-hpv-vaccine-schedule https://publichealth.jhu.edu/ivac/the-power-of-a-single-dose...
• rogerrogerr 1y ago
  If you’re not sexually active, is it still worth doing?
  • hedora 1y ago
    Yes.
    • CGMthrowaway 1y ago
      Why?
      • analog8374 1y ago
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      • yladiz 1y ago
        Unless you're never sexually active (meaning, you eventually do have sex), it's worthwhile getting since there is a risk to yourself if you get infected.
      • vhcr 1y ago
        Rape, you might become sexually active in the future, and although sexual transmission is the most common way, there are some other ways to get infected.
        • airstrike 1y ago
          Probably in reverse order
      • bdangubic 1y ago
        rape
        • agons 1y ago
          Huh.
• hedora 1y ago
  I went to my local megacorp pharmacy out here in California, and asked about the COVID vaccine that’s no longer recommended by our anti-vaxxer overlords. Apparently, it’s about as easy to get as an old-school medical marijuana card. Results vary by state though. No need to travel to Canada or Mexico (yet).
  • arcticbull 1y ago
    Kaiser is continuing to cover it for everyone.
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  • OrvalWintermute 1y ago
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    • bsder 1y ago
      1) If your wife was having a high risk pregnancy and couldn't get vaccinated, she really shouldn't have been working on the front lines during Covid, anyway. 2) Take a look in the mirror and try blaming the people who have made "getting a vaccine" a culture war political statement rather than something routine and uncontroversial. If vaccines were uncontroversial, medical exemptions from them would also be rare and uncontroversial.
      • codr7 1y ago
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        • habinero 1y ago
          None of that is true, my dude. Don't fall for that victim mentality.
      • OrvalWintermute 1y ago
        A percent of people have allergies to multiple vaccine ingredients. One of her friends likewise in the medical field with allergies was forced to get a vaccine or lose her job, and then proceeded to have significant medical issues afterwards from the allergy attacks The vaccine regime has lost many supporters, myself included.
• LorenPechtel 1y ago
  It's not approved for those over 45. (AFIAK, simply because so few people in that age group would have risk without having had prior exposure. Basically only those who had divorced or lost their long time partner.)
  • p1necone 1y ago
    That feels like a wild assumption to me - we really think people 45+ aren't having casual sex? less casual sex maybe, but I would imagine still a decent amount, statistically.
    • finghin 1y ago
      If you’re having casual sex at 45+ you probably already carry HPV.
      • pcthrowaway 1y ago
        Sure, but you probably don't already have all the strains which can cause cancer.
      • p1necone 1y ago
        Yeah that makes much more sense as an explanation than OP.
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      • tehjoker 1y ago
        Maybe, but all 9 cancer causing strains covered by the vaccine? HPV also clears on its own usually after some time afaik.
      • phkahler 1y ago
        There are over 30 strains of HPV with just 2 causing the majority of cancers. So sure, most people may have had some strain of it, but that's not really relevant unless immunity is broad across strains.
• arjie 1y ago
  It is actually not straightforward to do. Safeway Pharmacy refused to actually give me the vaccine when I showed up saying I'm not in a group that's eligible. One Medical told me that it would be a $400/shot 3-shot regimen. I'll probably just travel to India some time to visit family and get Cervavac there instead of Gardasil here. It's about $20/shot.
  • BobAliceInATree 1y ago
    as far as I can tell, pharmacists cannot give vaccines off-label (this is an issue for the new covid guidelines and some states fell back to an Rx if no longer eligible for the covid booster). Your PCP may give a vaccine off-label though, which is how I got my Shingrix, though I had to pay out of pocket.
  • Aurornis 1y ago
    Depending on the state you’re in, you likely have to get a prescription from a doctor, not a pharmacist, due to the wording of the law. Simplest route would be to call your primary doctor and ask if they can give it to you at your next annual checkup.
    • WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
      My Dr doesn't give me stuff. But that's only because I'm one of the millions of Americans who has no healthcare beyond what can paid out of my pocket. Not his fault.
      • nroets 1y ago
        Surely he can give you a prescription.
        • WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
          He could but then I'd still need to pay for the vaccine - which is the issue. Specifically, I would be adding the vaccine onto the long, long list of medical stuff (vaccines, tests, procedures) that I need to buy if the funds ever come available.
• pyuser583 1y ago
  I've been through this with medical providers, and they say it's not recommended for me. I don't take medical advice from internet strangers, especially when it contradicts my doctors'. I'm not particularly interested in discussing the how's and why's. My doctor said he doesn't recommend I get it, so I don't.
  • SchemaLoad 1y ago
    In most countries it's recommended for everyone. It just isn't in the US because they don't want to pay for it.
    • pyuser583 1y ago
      From what I have heard, that is true for many, many vaccines. I think it's weird and creepy people are selectively opting into vaccines that are not recommended for them. It feels a bit like those ads that say "bring up Expedia with your doctor!" This isn't a good PSA. Should I be vaccinated against smallpox too? How about anthrax?
      • OkayPhysicist 1y ago
        If we had as trivial of vaccinations for smallpox, anthrax, and rabies as we have for HPV, I'd collect them all. One fewer risk in my life, and a finite reduction in the risk of everyone around me's life, with no downside at all. 1 pin prick * 340,000,000 people > 340,000,000 people * 6.1 cases of cervical cancer * 0.9 efficacy / 100,000 people Your world view assigns equally negative utility to at most 18,214 shots as 1 case of cervical cancer. Put another way: If you were told you had to either take a shot every day, or you are guaranteed to get cancer, would you really choose the cancer?
        • pyuser583 1y ago
          If I was told by my doctor I shouldn’t get the vaccine I wouldn’t get it.
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• yieldcrv 1y ago
  I'm male and read about this exposure vector back in 2012 when it was only rolled out to 12 year old girls, with a further guideline that nobody over 26 should take it. this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety, and just run of the mill 'is the government condoning sex' anxiety, and it was controversial for that reason alone the issue was that if you've been exposed already then the vaccine doesn't work. they had a test for women that can prove they've been exposed or not, and most adults have. they don't have a test for men that can prove they've been exposed or not, and most adults have. At the time, they had also only considered males to be carriers, with no cancers themselves. so for the US government to recommend a limited stock and get insurers on board, it was all based on probabilities of exposure and utility. I was younger at the time, naturally, I paid $600 out of pocket to get it across 3 doses because I figured it was worse than that, or I could get some 'male ally' brownie points from women. I wasn't wealthy then but figured this experience couldn't be taken from me even if I went bankrupt. Since then, they've further linked it to throat cancers in males, because of our mouth's contact with genitals, and insurers are told to cover it across all genders and up to mid 40s. that's not really much of a difference now though, since the checkpoint is basically the same group of people, 13 years later. They're still assuming older people are not worth bothering with, due to likely exposure. There is an amusing side of this if you are male and not vaccinated yet, since nobody can tell if you've been exposed still: keep your sexual relationships with younger women. lol. in case you needed an excuse - higher probability they're vaccinated.
  • mgiampapa 1y ago
    The current recommended cutoff is 45 (well, pre the current US administration). So I think it was a question of we tested this at the time in these high risk age groups and we were still waiting on the results for other cohorts that were less important.
  • Fomite 1y ago
    "this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety" - It was really, really not. Another thing to keep in mind was that the initial trials were only using cervical cancer endpoints - the association between HOV infection and cervical cancer is really strong. At that time, vaccinating boys provided only indirect protection (you couldn't infect a female partner), rather than direct protection (you won't be infected) in the context of cervical cancer. Women prior to sexual debut were the biggest "bang for the buck" and the obvious first recommendation target. Researchers both at universities and in private industry then started working on other populations based on alternative endpoints.
• p1dda 1y ago
  That is a truly naïve way of thinking about a pharmaceutical product. Would you say the same about any other drug? What about blood pressure medicines, should everyone "consider getting it"? Completely ignorant, you have to consider multiple factors for the individual before taking any pharmaceutical drug and then you have to consider the risk from the drug, yes, low and behold, even vaccines can give side effects! The level of ignorance of the comments is staggering!
  • boxed 1y ago
    Sweden is also on the verge of eradicating this disease. How many deaths you ask? Zero of course. You're very confused about the statistics here.
  • dreamcompiler 1y ago
    Apples and oranges. Blood pressure medicine is for people who have hypertension, and not everyone does. And hypertension is not contagious. Conversely, almost every adult over 45 is carrying some form of HPV and a few of those forms cause cancer. If any of those adults has unprotected sex with someone without HPV who is unvaccinated, they almost certainly will transmit the virus. Even if condoms are used, HPV can still be transmitted. This is a much more contagious virus than HIV. The HPV vaccine is both extremely safe and extremely effective. Suggesting that every human consider getting the vaccine -- with appropriate consultation with their healthcare provider -- is sound advice.
    • robocat 1y ago
      > hypertension is not contagious Common causes of hypertension are "contagious". Summary: spousal concordance: one partner’s chronic disease raises the odds the other has it too. If one spouse has hypertension, multiple studies suggest the other spouse’s risk is about 1.3 to 1.5 times higher than their cohort. Genetic causes can easily double risk over baseline cohort for children. However there is a strong environmental/lifestyle effect in children. Studies in Scandinavia show that children adopted into hypertensive households carry an elevated risk compared to the general population. A hypertensive parent with an adopted child nudges the child’s later-life risk by about 20–30% higher than baseline.
• xkbarkar 1y ago
  In Denmark its not recommended for women over a certain age. So please don’t get it regardless of age. Its not really considered effective for women who have been sexually active for some time. Which is why its only recommended for girls, not women. https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/boernevaccination/vaccination-mod-livmoderhalskraeft https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/boernevaccination/vaccinati.... Tldr; Dont rush to get a vaccine that is probably not effective for you. Make an appointment with your doctor and discuss it with her first.
  • tordrt 1y ago
    There is many different strains of HPV, the likelihood of already have contracted them all is small. It will still protect you against strains you don't have. It also protects against genital warts. The vaccionation program targets young girls because thats the most efficient time to take it and has highest benefit/cost. You will still reap benefits of taking it later. I dont see any reason not to take if you get it for free and you are planning to be sexually active with multiple different partners.
    • mailund 1y ago
      just keep in mind that not all kinds of HPV vaccines protect against all the strains causing warts! Some do, but not all, check the specific brand you're getting! Obviously cancer is worse, but the extra protection is nice to have.
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    • tecleandor 1y ago
      This. Protects against strains you don't have, reduces the spreading. We (male that have sex with females, and haven't been vaccinated) are a huge infection vector. My doctors have generally refused vaccinating me for years (Male/43yo), but finally a new (female) doctor told me it's a good idea. I'm not in a risk group, so I have to pay for the vaccine: Gardasil 9, 3 doses, 3 months away of each other, ~€200 each, although studies say that 2 doses might be enough. In reality, you can pay to a private doctor so they write you a prescription, but I feel more validated if my doctor says it's OK :)
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