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As someone who bothered to learn the keyboard shortcuts for the em dash and ellipsis, this makes me sad. Even in posts not using these things, I’ve been accuse

As someone who bothered to learn the keyboard shortcuts for the em dash and ellipsis, this makes me sad. Even in posts not using these things, I’ve been accused of being an AI bot a few times now. I’m not sure what it is I’m doing that makes people think that. My natural reaction is to double down on whatever I was trying to explain, which seems to make things worse. Such is life…

carlosjobim 1y ago
People are psychotic everywhere online and will accuse you of anything and everything if you're not 100% aligned with their views.
- mikestorrent 1y ago
  Very much so! I used to write responses online in the classic GPT formula with lots of bullets etc. and now I am deliberately ensuring that I don't over-formalize grammar so as to provide people with a little bit of confidence that I'm real... for what it's worth. I used to spend a lot of time arguing online. Now, with Dead Internet Theory, it feels like it's just hammering home how useless that all was.
  - 7jjjjjjj 1y ago
    All those people on Reddit who never found "Shift" or "Enter" on their keyboard are laughing at us now.
  - al_borland 1y ago
    While I fully understand not wanting to argue things online when the dead internet theory has seemed to come true, I don’t think we should dumb ourselves down for it. I also don’t think that will help. I saw an Odd Man Out video where humans and an AI were put into a box and they had to try and figure out who was the AI. If I remember correctly, the AI said it was purposely making some mistakes to better emulate a human. We should seek to be better where AI falls, rather than sink to a level beneath AI and assume its superiority.
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  Even when you are, people are on average so paranoid and suspicious of random internet strangers with malintent that the concept of reading a response while assuming good intentions has been lost.
  - crmi 1y ago
    Yep — on mainstream AI YouTube videos, I see a lot of comment replies accusing anyone of commenting with ai (if its a well weitten post, with punctuation). Others chiming in "ran through ai detector, says 37% human 63% air — BOT" etc YT comments were never a good place, but it's interesting to see this shift now its hit the masses And interesting that no ones commenting about the robotic AI voice over... Instead pointing finger's at each other like the spiderman meme.
    - al_borland 1y ago
      I’m not a YouTube commenter, so I don’t have a horse in this race, but it seems like Google is in a very good position to know if a commenter is AI or not. It is very likely that their YouTube account is tied to a Gmail account… they know if that’s being used by a person or not. Google’s unwillingness to tackle the comment problems has been a problem for years, long before AI. I recall seeing some videos on some scripts a guy wrote to flag and filter spam and bots on YouTube comments. Something Google could and should have done a long time ago. If they have done anything at all recently, it’s been due to public shaming from top creators on the platform.
unethical_ban 1y ago
I used to secretly assume any comment on reddit that uses direction quotation marks ” “ vs " " are bot or AI generated. But I believe that's just how iOS does it? I wish a comment being completely vapid or trollish were indicator enough.
- MarkusQ 1y ago
  You could just reserve your rancor for posts that are completely vapid or trollish — and ignore the issue of how they were created. It works for me.
  - unethical_ban 1y ago
    Bot content deserves all the derision trolls do. The best solution for me is to touch grass daily.
- whatamidoingyo 1y ago
  I have some blogs that make use of Markdown. " is automatically rendered as a ”. Likewise, "--" is rendered as an em dash.
- zappb 1y ago
  I assume those are people who write their comments in MS Word and copy the text with its smart quotes.
  - vincent-manis 1y ago
    Sorry, I wouldn't be caught dead using Word. I use quotation marks because that is the correct punctuation.
- maratc 1y ago
  > that's just how iOS does it? MacOS, too.
- cwillu 1y ago
  On the osx keyboard layout (which you can use under linux): “ < altgr + [ ” < altgr + ]
AlienRobot 1y ago
https://xkcd.com/3126 https://xkcd.com/3126

carlosjobim 1y ago

People are psychotic everywhere online and will accuse you of anything and everything if you're not 100% aligned with their views.

mikestorrent 1y ago
Very much so! I used to write responses online in the classic GPT formula with lots of bullets etc. and now I am deliberately ensuring that I don't over-formalize grammar so as to provide people with a little bit of confidence that I'm real... for what it's worth. I used to spend a lot of time arguing online. Now, with Dead Internet Theory, it feels like it's just hammering home how useless that all was.
- 7jjjjjjj 1y ago
  All those people on Reddit who never found "Shift" or "Enter" on their keyboard are laughing at us now.
- al_borland 1y ago
  While I fully understand not wanting to argue things online when the dead internet theory has seemed to come true, I don’t think we should dumb ourselves down for it. I also don’t think that will help. I saw an Odd Man Out video where humans and an AI were put into a box and they had to try and figure out who was the AI. If I remember correctly, the AI said it was purposely making some mistakes to better emulate a human. We should seek to be better where AI falls, rather than sink to a level beneath AI and assume its superiority.
BizarroLand 1y ago
Even when you are, people are on average so paranoid and suspicious of random internet strangers with malintent that the concept of reading a response while assuming good intentions has been lost.
- crmi 1y ago
  Yep — on mainstream AI YouTube videos, I see a lot of comment replies accusing anyone of commenting with ai (if its a well weitten post, with punctuation). Others chiming in "ran through ai detector, says 37% human 63% air — BOT" etc YT comments were never a good place, but it's interesting to see this shift now its hit the masses And interesting that no ones commenting about the robotic AI voice over... Instead pointing finger's at each other like the spiderman meme.
  - al_borland 1y ago
    I’m not a YouTube commenter, so I don’t have a horse in this race, but it seems like Google is in a very good position to know if a commenter is AI or not. It is very likely that their YouTube account is tied to a Gmail account… they know if that’s being used by a person or not. Google’s unwillingness to tackle the comment problems has been a problem for years, long before AI. I recall seeing some videos on some scripts a guy wrote to flag and filter spam and bots on YouTube comments. Something Google could and should have done a long time ago. If they have done anything at all recently, it’s been due to public shaming from top creators on the platform.

unethical_ban 1y ago

I used to secretly assume any comment on reddit that uses direction quotation marks ” “ vs " " are bot or AI generated. But I believe that's just how iOS does it? I wish a comment being completely vapid or trollish were indicator enough.

MarkusQ 1y ago
You could just reserve your rancor for posts that are completely vapid or trollish — and ignore the issue of how they were created. It works for me.
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  Bot content deserves all the derision trolls do. The best solution for me is to touch grass daily.
whatamidoingyo 1y ago
I have some blogs that make use of Markdown. " is automatically rendered as a ”. Likewise, "--" is rendered as an em dash.
zappb 1y ago
I assume those are people who write their comments in MS Word and copy the text with its smart quotes.
- vincent-manis 1y ago
  Sorry, I wouldn't be caught dead using Word. I use quotation marks because that is the correct punctuation.
maratc 1y ago
> that's just how iOS does it? MacOS, too.
cwillu 1y ago
On the osx keyboard layout (which you can use under linux): “ < altgr + [ ” < altgr + ]

AlienRobot 1y ago

https://xkcd.com/3126 https://xkcd.com/3126