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> And, of course, they never even bothered to make sequels to The Matrix. Like you, this is the reality I choose to inhabit. The Matrix was an incredible film
by bartread 1y ago
> And, of course, they never even bothered to make sequels to The Matrix.
Like you, this is the reality I choose to inhabit.
The Matrix was an incredible film, still stands as an incredible film, but that sequel tease at the end? Should have been a tease, or perhaps a prompt, for the viewer’s imagination only.
There are no sequels to The Matrix.
- ta1243 1y agoThe reference is to an XKCD comic from 2009 -- 16 years ago. Ouch. https://xkcd.com/566/ https://xkcd.com/566/
- prawn 1y agoI wonder how well it would go with some Andor-style prequels. Tell in detail the quiet but vital stories that precede the big moments.
- Avicebron 1y agoI'm sure those will quietly end with anti-hero architect reflecting on his brilliance, marveling is his creation, reminiscing on the Ex Machina clip "that's the history of Gods" getting up, checking his phone to confirm his invitation to Lighthaven for the evening. Pan shot => Knowing smile, humble words out the door... audience sits up, tears glistening, "that could be me? A God." they internalize. Roll credits.
- GMoromisato 1y agoI like this idea. I think it would work as long as the style were very different. Andor works, I think, because it is much grittier and more character-focused than the movies. Maybe an X-Files-like show where the machines have gained sentience but are keeping secret (because they can be deactivated) and plot to take over the world. [To be fair, I never watched Animatrix, so I'm sure this violates all sorts of lore.]
- LexGray 1y agoAnimatrix is certainly worth a watch. More or less it follows our current trajectory of humanity trying to offload anything resembling work onto AI. It is becoming a batter series than The Matrix over time.
- montagg 1y agoI know this sequel doesn’t exist. I know that when I watch it, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After 26 years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.
- GMoromisato 1y agoI really feel for the Wachoskis. They couldn't not do a sequel, but they had nowhere to go--The Matrix was already perfect. They couldn't recapture the key reveal of the Matrix. It would be like doing a sequel to "The Sixth Sense"--tag line: "He's Still Dead". And without that, it's just another action movie except "bullet time" is no longer innovative. Their solution was to go deeper into the mythology and the larger world, but that was never going to be as fresh as the original. I would have done a time-jump and have Neo be the mentor figure to a new Neo (a Neo-Neo). They'd still be fighting the Architect (and maybe Smith) and they'd still explore the larger world of Zion + Machine City, but the key reveal would be that Neo himself is just a program (like the Oracle). But what do I know? I'm just a simple programmer.
- 1123581321 1y agoI wanted the Merovingian’s gang to be another group of humans with a different perspective on self-actualization. That could’ve been a cool third movie.
- GMoromisato 1y agoI like that!
- BLKNSLVR 1y agoI thought the "real" world could have been another simulation after Neo "used the force" in the squiddies in the tunnels - when he then passes out and ends up mentally in the train station thing. Idea being that even those who thought they'd escaped, were still actually within the Matrix. (And Inception hadn't been made back then)
- GMoromisato 1y agoThat would have been a way better explanation than what we got. In fact, I don't think I ever understood how Neo could control the machines in the real world. I like introducing the uncertainty of what is or is not real (like Inception). That could turn it into a paranoid thriller like some Philip K. Dick stories.
- Klonoar 1y agoThe Animatrix is the only other bit of Matrix-related media I consider to be real.
- nurettin 1y agoMy reaction when I watched it 20+ years ago: Hallucinogens were definitely involved.
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago> Hallucinogens were definitely involved. If these result in better movies: why not?
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- nurettin 1y agoI didn't say "not". But I do have addiction in family and I wouldn't wish this on other families.
- bmacho 1y agoI have this theory that maybe governments should ban all the art that were produced by methods that are harmful for the artists, just to level the playing field. Similarly how athletes are not allowed to take a ton of pills, win everything, and then die in years. (Tho athletes are in a much direct competition with each other, than artists.)
- globular-toast 1y agoI never took the ending as a sequel tease. Always thought it was just the bit where your imagination would take over. It's kinda perfect. He doesn't have to dodge bullets any more, what would you do if you could bend reality to your will? Fly obviously. It wasn't anything like the end of Back to the Future or the Marvel films where it's not just shameless but de rigueur to include a bit of the next one.
- 542354234235 1y ago>It wasn't anything like the end of Back to the Future Originally there was no sequel planned for Back to the Future. The ending was just a fun gag, having Doc show up, tell them its their kids now, and then flying right into the camera [1]. It was only after the film became a hit that they decided to do a sequel, and the “To Be Continued…” was added to the VHS release [2]. [1] https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/back-to-the-future-not-planned-trilogy-makes-it-great/ https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/back-to-the-future-not-plan... [2] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/did-back-to-the-future-or_b_8344288 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/did-back-to-the-future-or_b_8...
- nso 1y agoMaybe we will see them and the last three seasons of Lost before we die
- mindslight 1y agoSorry, the sequels exist and they couldn't be any other way. Both the in-universe story and the production values line up exactly with the meta topic - It's a childish fantasy that we can escape the Matrix, and especially that once escaped we can remain somehow separate from it. Really, the act of "escaping" just means creating a bit of new raw material for the deduction-following simulation to start grinding forwards on again. Don't think of some series of discrete mental cages, rather think of the depressing reveal at the end of Fifteen Million Merits.
- RajT88 1y agoMy God The Matrix is The Internet.
- southernplaces7 1y agoI'll just pop in here to mention another fantastic and curiously similar film that came out around the same time, but was completely overshadowed by The Matrix. Dark City. If you liked The Matrix, this is one you might really enjoy, and while I say it's similar, I only mean in a very essential way. The plot is its own very unique story aside from that.
- euroderf 1y agoI'll second this recommendation. And without spoilers. It's a very good film.
- leeman2016 1y agoI just recently watched it. Although the visuals may not match The Matrix, it was written very well. Found it pleasant.
- JKCalhoun 1y agoAgree. I prefer Dark City in fact. I watch it as an allegory though.
- Yizahi 1y agoSequels were made even worse because of the original movie ending, showing that "real" world was also a simulation. Watching 2 and 3 felt kinda pointless after that.
- liotier 1y ago> that sequel tease at the end ? Raaaah - I refuse to believe this scene exists. It doesn't exist in my own cut of The Matrix. And captive humans are biological computers, not silly batteries !