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Yes, if they would make a basic car like in the past I would buy it. Everyone has to sell you too much, I want a simple car, I don't want either the stereo, I w

Yes, if they would make a basic car like in the past I would buy it. Everyone has to sell you too much, I want a simple car, I don't want either the stereo, I will add my own later (I can put it one that is better than the factory one for a cheaper price, but in a modern car replacing the stereo is almost impossible). There are a ton of useless sensors, the sensor that tells you if you have a flat tire (I think I can notice myself), the emergency call button (while everyone has a mobile phone these days), automatic regulating seats (pulling a lever is too much difficult), dual zone clima control (it's the same space in the same car, why I would want to set 2 different temperatures?), etc. And in all this useless things that they put in a car, they no longer provide you with a spare tire, just an useless repair kit...

Hamuko 1y ago
I presume you're gonna buy a Slate truck? https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en
- throwaway173738 1y ago
  Is it available in a hybrid or ICE?
- idiotsecant 1y ago
  Yes!! If it turns out to be not vaporware, which lets be honest is probably a reasonably high probability.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  I don't want a truck, but if they do that approach for a minivan or a sedan, and they can get it to market, I'd 100% go for that. It sounds amazing.
bumby 1y ago
Some of those “useless” sensors like tire pressure or backup camera are required by law. Even if you get a bare bones hatchback (manual transmission, manual locks, manual windows etc.) they’ll be forced to include those.
- ekianjo 1y ago
  Regulations will make cars unaffordable which is exactly what they are pushing for
  - threetonesun 1y ago
    Tire sensors and backup cameras are dirt cheap though. Maybe lane warning and collision avoidance are a bit more but they’re both 10+ year old technology, they can’t cost that much. Also all of these things are good. Redoing the steering wheel or using 22” wheels or adding heating for each individual ass cheek… that I don’t need, and it adds to the cost.
    - dgfitz 1y ago
      You can't replace a tire sensor without getting it coded. Complete bullshit.
      - threetonesun 1y ago
        I agree this is bullshit, although when I swapped from Summer to Winter tires I fixed this by putting tape over the sensor light in the Winter.
      - kube-system 1y ago
        A car on a busy highway needs to know which sensors belong to itself. Some cars are a PITA to program, but many can be done with cheap tools.
        dgfitz 1y ago
        Either you can see the tire is low visually, or when you hear a thump-thump-thump you know you blew a tire. I do not agree with your point. I do understand it, don't agree.
        bumby 1y ago
dgfitz 1y ago
I do a lot of work on my own vehicles. I think a lot of the responses are from people who do not. Paying for vehicle repair labor is basically a tax. They're making it harder and harder to fix your own car. I spent the afternoon yesterday trying to find headlight assemblies that didn't need to be coded to work correctly. Headlights. All the outrage about right-to-repair around here, and nobody realizes the frog is almost boiled around repairing cars.
itsoktocry 1y ago
Spoken like someone who hasn't owned a late model car. >I can put it one that is better than the factory one for a cheaper price As someone who used to be involved in the car audio competition scene, those days are long gone. Modern sounds systems are great, and tightly integrated into the A/V system. >the sensor that tells you if you have a flat tire The sensor will tell you when there's a rapid drop in pressure. You won't notice the flat until you're near driving on the rim. >the emergency call button (while everyone has a mobile phone these days), automatic regulating seats (pulling a lever is too much difficult), dual zone clima control (it's the same space in the same car, why I would want to set 2 different temperatures?) Old man yells at great features. >they no longer provide you with a spare tire, just an useless repair kit... Yeah, they provide roadside assistance. Because changing your tire on the side of the road is dangerous (as is driving on the donut). Plenty of used jalopies out there for you.
- bigfishrunning 1y ago
  > Yeah, they provide roadside assistance. Because changing your tire on the side of the road is dangerous (as is driving on the donut). As is waiting on the side of the highway for an hour (possibly in the winter, possibly in the dark) until AAA arrives. Also, allowing you to pay for roadside assistance isn't the same as "providing" it.
teslabox 1y ago
I agree that there are lots of useless things in cars, but the tire pressure sensors on my base trim 2013 Honda recently saved me a big headache. I recently pulled out of a business and the "low tire pressure light" turned on right away. "Hmm?" My next stop was 1/4 mile away, and it still felt okay. At the next parking lot I checked all the tires with my gauge and found one was 10psi low. On closer inspection the nail was right on top. Sure enough I'd picked up a little nail. It was a slow leak, and I wouldn't have heard the hiss. If not for the sensor I might not have noticed I'd gotten a flat until I got on the freeway. PSA: Check your spare's air pressure. Mine was supposed to be 60psi. It had 40psi, which was good enough to get me to the tire store. I checked the spare when I got home - the tire repair crew had bumped it up to 55psi. My dad was leaving on a trip recently. Because 'spare tire psi' was on my mind I checked his spare - it was only 25psi.
dzhiurgis 1y ago
FWIW repairing tyre is easier than putting on spare. So long it’s not a rare sidewall puncture.

Hamuko 1y ago

I presume you're gonna buy a Slate truck? https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en

throwaway173738 1y ago
Is it available in a hybrid or ICE?
idiotsecant 1y ago
Yes!! If it turns out to be not vaporware, which lets be honest is probably a reasonably high probability.
ceejayoz 1y ago
I don't want a truck, but if they do that approach for a minivan or a sedan, and they can get it to market, I'd 100% go for that. It sounds amazing.

bumby 1y ago

Some of those “useless” sensors like tire pressure or backup camera are required by law. Even if you get a bare bones hatchback (manual transmission, manual locks, manual windows etc.) they’ll be forced to include those.

ekianjo 1y ago
Regulations will make cars unaffordable which is exactly what they are pushing for
- threetonesun 1y ago
  Tire sensors and backup cameras are dirt cheap though. Maybe lane warning and collision avoidance are a bit more but they’re both 10+ year old technology, they can’t cost that much. Also all of these things are good. Redoing the steering wheel or using 22” wheels or adding heating for each individual ass cheek… that I don’t need, and it adds to the cost.
  - dgfitz 1y ago
    You can't replace a tire sensor without getting it coded. Complete bullshit.
    - threetonesun 1y ago
      I agree this is bullshit, although when I swapped from Summer to Winter tires I fixed this by putting tape over the sensor light in the Winter.
    - kube-system 1y ago
      A car on a busy highway needs to know which sensors belong to itself. Some cars are a PITA to program, but many can be done with cheap tools.
      - dgfitz 1y ago
        Either you can see the tire is low visually, or when you hear a thump-thump-thump you know you blew a tire. I do not agree with your point. I do understand it, don't agree.
        bumby 1y ago

dgfitz 1y ago

I do a lot of work on my own vehicles. I think a lot of the responses are from people who do not. Paying for vehicle repair labor is basically a tax. They're making it harder and harder to fix your own car. I spent the afternoon yesterday trying to find headlight assemblies that didn't need to be coded to work correctly. Headlights. All the outrage about right-to-repair around here, and nobody realizes the frog is almost boiled around repairing cars.

itsoktocry 1y ago

Spoken like someone who hasn't owned a late model car. >I can put it one that is better than the factory one for a cheaper price As someone who used to be involved in the car audio competition scene, those days are long gone. Modern sounds systems are great, and tightly integrated into the A/V system. >the sensor that tells you if you have a flat tire The sensor will tell you when there's a rapid drop in pressure. You won't notice the flat until you're near driving on the rim. >the emergency call button (while everyone has a mobile phone these days), automatic regulating seats (pulling a lever is too much difficult), dual zone clima control (it's the same space in the same car, why I would want to set 2 different temperatures?) Old man yells at great features. >they no longer provide you with a spare tire, just an useless repair kit... Yeah, they provide roadside assistance. Because changing your tire on the side of the road is dangerous (as is driving on the donut). Plenty of used jalopies out there for you.

bigfishrunning 1y ago
> Yeah, they provide roadside assistance. Because changing your tire on the side of the road is dangerous (as is driving on the donut). As is waiting on the side of the highway for an hour (possibly in the winter, possibly in the dark) until AAA arrives. Also, allowing you to pay for roadside assistance isn't the same as "providing" it.

teslabox 1y ago

I agree that there are lots of useless things in cars, but the tire pressure sensors on my base trim 2013 Honda recently saved me a big headache. I recently pulled out of a business and the "low tire pressure light" turned on right away. "Hmm?" My next stop was 1/4 mile away, and it still felt okay. At the next parking lot I checked all the tires with my gauge and found one was 10psi low. On closer inspection the nail was right on top. Sure enough I'd picked up a little nail. It was a slow leak, and I wouldn't have heard the hiss. If not for the sensor I might not have noticed I'd gotten a flat until I got on the freeway. PSA: Check your spare's air pressure. Mine was supposed to be 60psi. It had 40psi, which was good enough to get me to the tire store. I checked the spare when I got home - the tire repair crew had bumped it up to 55psi. My dad was leaving on a trip recently. Because 'spare tire psi' was on my mind I checked his spare - it was only 25psi.

dzhiurgis 1y ago

FWIW repairing tyre is easier than putting on spare. So long it’s not a rare sidewall puncture.