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Cisco and Oracle didn’t start out as non-profits claiming to be focused on the betterment of mankind. This is no different than Google dropping the do no evil a
by tw04 1y ago
Cisco and Oracle didn’t start out as non-profits claiming to be focused on the betterment of mankind. This is no different than Google dropping the do no evil and getting roasted for it.
Also, you’re suggesting because a company got away with bad behavior in the past we should never expect better of any other company going forward?
- chii 1y ago> getting roasted for it. and making bank. I know which option i'd choose.
- mschoch 1y ago[dead]
- 0x69420 1y agothe nonprofit line has not been believ{ed,able} or relevant for what, in tech, may as well have been a century by now. had this happened around the time the veil was lifted, that would have been something worth discussing, but this was announced last month. it is now only meaningfully addressable along the same avenue as any other american tech giant getting comfy with the us govt's controversial foreign relations.
- jrochkind1 1y agoI think it's worth discussing AI specifically being used by authoritarian governments, because it is so suitable for surveillance and repression. And worth discussing OpenAI as a leader in the field, investing in such collaborations. It's worth talking about the others too for sure. Not every article or essay needs to talk about all of them. Sure, it would be improved if it at least mentioned in passing what is known of any other large corporations making specifically AI deals with authoritarian governments. (Such as all of them with Israel). But not every article needs to talk about everything. The argument that a given article or point should not have been made because it didn't talk about other things -- usually will result in less talk about any of the things, not more. And that's often the intent of such an argument.
- spacecadet 1y agoIt's strange anyone believed their intentions to begin with. Ive said it here often and I'll say it again- When they say they want to change the world for the better, stop and ponder their alignment. Even better, stop and realize someones public alignment does not equal their true intentions... Change might always happen, but it doesn't mean its "good" for humanity.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago> Also, you’re suggesting because a company got away with bad behavior in the past we should never expect better of any other company going forward? No, they are saying it is frustrating to see the focus on OpenAI rather than, for example, Cisco and Oracle, in an article with this particular title. On the topic of “supercomputers for autocrats”, a reader may be interested in what Oracle is up to. https://fortune.com/2025/02/14/larry-ellison-ai-centralized-database-citizen-data/ https://fortune.com/2025/02/14/larry-ellison-ai-centralized-... It is odd to focus such a broad topic on OpenAI.
- salawat 1y agoWe can focus on more than a single thing at a time. I'm also more worried about Palantir and such as well.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago> We can focus on more than a single thing at a time. This is not the point. You are correct that we can focus on more than one thing at a time and that’s why different articles are about different things. This article is about “Building supercomputers for autocrats” and it is odd that it focuses on a single aspect of that topic.
- 93po 1y agoThe problem is that we don't. We see the same thing in politics - we focus so much on "us vs them" and while the "them" is uniquely damaging, we lose sight of the fact that there is a lot of overlap in how they're both really damaging. Corporate news media hyperfocuses on the clickbait, rage-inducing, enagement-farming stories. And passes over companies like Oracle because they spend a ton on advertising (i.e. they kiss the ring)
- jimbokun 1y agoWriting an article criticizing OpenAI is not an exoneration of Cisco and Oracle.
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