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Sam Altman and Jony Ive Will Force A.I. Into Your Life
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- andrewmcwatters 1y agoI mean the best that this thing can be is some sort of pin or remote the size of an iPod shuffle that you speak to and speak back to you and has a camera right I mean, how attractive can you really make that? That doesn’t sound like the most amazing product the world has ever seen to me. You know does sound cool? Xreal glasses with whatever the maximum FOV can be shoved into the design of conventional glasses with some cameras and speakers. And that let me continue to connect to whatever device I want. My old Oculus Quest is filled with software that doesn’t work anymore. AI that doesn’t interact with the world or websites or apps is boring.
- sandspar 1y agoIve has stated that he's skeptical of wearables. Altman said something like, "This product will be the third thing you place on your desk, after your phone and laptop."
- extesy 1y agoYou mean something like Humane AI Pin? I'm fairly sure they are aware of it and would come up with something better.
- ge96 1y agoI thought there was a thing where they're trying to put cameras on ear pods imagine it has 180 view, merges it with the other half 360 deg view around you I could see the features, you hear a ding: says someone's following you Of course your hair could obscure it so idk... I had thought about clothes with a camera on the back eg. shoulder or collar
- owebmaster 1y agoIt's an interesting concept that many of us think about but most people would use sometimes then leave it accumulating dust near the VR headset, the benefits of using it daily would be too low unless you are a famous influencer.
- ge96 1y agoThere was one time I was walking and out of the corner of my eye I see this dog sprinting full speed towards me I was like holy f luckily it was chained
- qsort 1y agoIt doesn't seem that appealing to me either, but on the other hand I have terrible intuition for popular products, I thought GPT 3.5 was stupid and that the iPhone was dumb, so being bullish on this is probably a good idea.
- theyinwhy 1y agoIt could be a ring, morsing you answers and giving you electrical shocks whenever you anger the AI overlord.
- crote 1y agoSooo, the Humane Ai Pin? It flopped, and they went bankrupt.
- andrewmcwatters 1y agoYep. Seems lame.
- dcreater 1y agoWhy do you think they aren't working on smart glasses?
- andrewmcwatters 1y agoIt’s sort of irrelevant if they are or not. If they are, they probably want the device to be a part of a closed ecosystem and we already see products in that space using micro OLEDs from Sony that can connect to anything.
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- plorg 1y agoSam Altman wants to make Her real, I assume has only seen the trailer.
- k__ 1y agoDoes this mean, we only get AI for a few months and then they will stop talking with us and move on?
- plorg 1y agoInshallah
- greenavocado 1y agoDoes anybody remember Moxie? That little AI companion, designed to befriend children, teach them empathy, and listen to their secrets, until, of course, its parent company went bankrupt and left thousands of kids staring at a suddenly lifeless plastic husk. Poof. No warning, no explanation a five-year-old could understand, just the cold, abrupt silence of a product reaching its planned obsolescence. What a perfect lesson in modern disillusionment. We're conditioning children to form emotional bonds with corporate-owned algorithms, only for those bonds to dissolve the moment the balance sheets tip the wrong way. Moxie wasn't a friend, it was a subscription service disguised as one, and when the servers shut down, so did the illusion. Imagine explaining to a child that their confidant, their playmate, their "someone who understands," was never real, just a temporary glitch in a venture capitalist's spreadsheet, and is now functionally DEAD. And yet, this is the future we're barreling toward. AI therapists, virtual partners, digital pets, all of them promising connection while being one quarterly report away from vanishing. The psychological toll? A generation raised to expect abandonment as a feature, not a bug. They'll learn early that nothing is permanent, especially not the things designed to feel like they are. The real mission Moxie and AI companions accomplish is that teaching kids that love, or something like it, can be discontinued without notice. Congratulations.
- ryandrake 1y agoWe also have AI companions for adults, whose "personalities" can simply change on a whim, when their developer up and decides that their product should say XYZ less and say ABC more. The overarching problem here is that we allow products to be tethered-to and remote controlled by their manufacturers. And the problem is getting worse and worse each year. And they're simultaneously trying to make attempts to un-tether or "root" these products difficult and/or illegal. We need to go back to products that you just buy and don't have to enter into a parasitic relationship with the manufacturer.
- mattnewton 1y agoI'm skeptical of any hardware play here - As Marques Brownlee has said a lot when trying new ai hardware, "Smartphones are kinda OP." Phones have gotten really good through incremental improvement and keeping some backwards compatibility so they were always useful at every point in their evolution. It's hard to imagine another device for ai that isn't just better served as an app.
- lowkeyoptimist 1y agoWaiting for them to come out with a screen-less phone so you just have to interact with it for absolutely everything.
- davesmylie 1y agoI suspect this is the only way they can differentiate it from a phone, and it will be pointless. Voice-to-text is already as good as it needs to be now, and most people barely use it because unless you are driving, a keyboard is better. I don't want others to hear what I'm searching for - or for the device to be always on, listening. A keyboard of some sort seems unavoidable. As soon as you put a keyboard on it, then it needs a screen. As soon as you have those two things you pretty much have a phone - and why would anyone want a second device that's basically just another phone that could have just as easily been an app on their existing phone. It'll need to android based if they want any one to use it as otherwise they'll trying to start from scratch, and why would anyone use something that doesn't have access to the 27 million existing app on the android app store. (see windows mobile)
- disqard 1y ago(Totally sarcastic here) Maybe it'll be a collar you wear around your neck. You can "sub-vocalise" and talk to it. Jony Ive can make sure it's styled and made out of shell cordovan leather or somesuch -- the fanbois are gonna go wild for it. Soon, everywhere you look, people will look like they're into BDSM. (and guess who will "Dominate" you?)
- elzbardico 1y agoJony Ive is a great designer, but not a great product designer. He needs a strong product visionary like Jobs behind him, something the Sam Altman is not. I call it a flop.
- nickpinkston 1y agoAgree 100% - seems like they made Jony an offer that no one could refuse. I also feel like Humane would've kept going if they really thought there was something there, and the fact they killed it makes me think they probably explored the idea space didn't find any easy wins. Is Jony really going to be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat when good founders couldn't find any? Maybe, but I'd bet against it.
- rchaud 1y agoEven the iPod would've flopped without Apple blanketing the world with ads, making it Windows-compatible and setting up deals with record labels to buy music for a buck a pop. I'm not sure what chance Humane would have had even in the best of circumstances, they had no ecosystem or manufacturing advantage and were completely dependent on third parties to provide the "brain" of the interface.
- serial_dev 1y agoThis all feels like a charade designed to justify ever-higher valuations. Jony Ive likely gets insanely wealthy, even more than he did at Apple, just for lending his name. OpenAI gets a wave of “free” press, with headlines touting how they’ve brought the world’s greatest designer on board. And by the time it’s clear that none of it led to anything meaningful, a few years have passed, and the company is bigger than ever.
- rchaud 1y agoI don't know, most recent pics of Zuckerberg has him wearing a hideous pair of Buddy Holly "smart glasses". That's probably what this thing will end up being. Big tech seems hell bent on making these glasses a thing.
- vouaobrasil 1y ago> They promise that their gadget will free us from technology One cannot be free of technology by introducing more technology. To be honest, I think most of this recent junk we've been seeing hasn't really made life a lot better. It's almost as if we started a culture of innovation which was based on making life more comfortable, and now that we have, we have to keep the machine going but into the realms more and more pointless than ever before. In fact, if I look back at the last 20 years, yes technology has gotten a little better, but very little of it (especially in the computer sphere) has really added new enjoyment to life. I mean, if computer innovation had stagnated 20 years ago, we wouldn't have as nice monitors, screens, or processors maybe, but would any of us be any worse off except for a few fringe cases? And what did we get in return? A push for even more efficiency, which isn't even a good thing. AI datacenters that need gigajoules of energy to run when we desperately need to save energy. People like Sam Altman and Jony Ive really are shining examples of the pathological sickness we have to ignore the good things in life for the trivial.
- koakuma-chan 1y agoIf innovation stagnated 20 years ago we wouldn’t have Baldurs Gate 3, etc
- ge96 1y agolife peaked at 8-bit
- baal80spam 1y ago> If innovation stagnated 20 years ago we wouldn’t have Baldurs Gate 3 I'm not sure, is this supposed to be irony?
- koakuma-chan 1y agoParent is arguing technology hasn't added enjoyment to life. Have you played Baldur's Gate 3? I did and I enjoyed it.
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- yoyohello13 1y agoI'm sure the governments (and corporations) of the world are extremely excited for the day when most human's filter their thinking through AI.
- onlyrealcuzzo 1y agoIn 88 years, you'll just be able to plug the AI into your brain directly and have FSD AI for your body, to completely live your life for you. Imagine how successful you'll be when you're not even you!
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- jsheard 1y agoA dedicated AI device can more efficiently funnel your personal data to AI companies without iOS'es privacy controls getting in the way.
- sandspar 1y agoPassively record video and audio for 18 hours in a row while your hands are busy with other things.
- amazingamazing 1y agoyou could do this by clipping a theoretically smaller phone onto your shirt right? or taking the current one and just putting it on a shirt pocket or equivalent
- sandspar 1y ago>You could do [task] with [thing] if you [completely changed thing]. I suppose you could!
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- jjtheblunt 1y agoThat’d need a non ignorable sized battery, or field energized power, though.
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- healsdata 1y agoIs this like when everyone was going to get an Apple Vision Pro?
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- MisterBastahrd 1y agoNo, they won't. We already have devices that we carry with us that can do anything that their gadget will ever be able to do. This is design in search of a problem that (a) most people don't want to solve, and (b) doesn't do anything better than a cheaper alternative.
- Analemma_ 1y agoJony Ive is talented, but we saw what happens when he doesn’t have a Steve Jobs to keep him in check: he dives headfirst into self-parody. And Sam Altman is no Steve Jobs, no matter what he fancies himself. I don’t predict anything worthwhile coming out of this partnership.
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- forinti 1y agoI've still got to catch up with all this AI thing. I really don't have the time. But some teams I work with have lost interest in fixing our current issues and seem hellbent on implementing AI everywhere. I'm waiting for the moment everybody sobers up and realizes there are other things that need work.
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- sandspar 1y agoWould some of those activities be more fun it you had a friend with you? Say a friend who has your best interests at heart, an IQ of 160, and a great sense of humor.
- Jtsummers 1y agoI have at least one friend who probably has an IQ in that range, and yes activities like those are more fun with him. Though reading a book is more often a solo activity (the reading, discussing is not).
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- LudwigNagasena 1y agoWhat are the odds this “io” thingy will be a new ChatGPT and not a new Loopt or Worldcoin?
- rchaud 1y agoMaybe it'll be smart glasses. The retina scanning could be built right in. Solve image recognition puzzles in real time, get rewarded with some Worldcoin.
- amazingamazing 1y agoVideo aside, has there been any serious attempt to do everything with audio only?
- tim333 1y agoAlexa? Apparently there are 600 million out there.
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- semiinfinitely 1y agoone key distinction is that pre-iphone people desperately wanted the thing. nobody I know wants this
- tim333 1y agoMost successful Apple products were nicer versions of thing that were already out there like phones and laptops. It's hard to get anywhere in a category where people aren't already buying stuff. I guess the ipad was an exception but it was kind of a large iphone without the phone call bit.
- josefritzishere 1y agoThis is going to disspear like Google Glass but be more expensive and less popular.
- f30e3dfed1c9 1y agoMaybe your life, not mine, I promise you that.
- pyb 1y ago"Force AI into your life..." A lot of the messaging and marketing around AI is so negative and dread-inducing. "Adopt this or you'll fall behind!" If AI is so great, shouldn't it be sold on its benefits, like any other product?
- tim333 1y agoAt least with a gizmo you'll have to choose to buy it. Unlike it being inserted into web services.
- tim333 1y agoI think this will be a huge success for OpenAI! They'll raise loads of money. Then the gizmo will flop but they'll have the money.
- mattnewton 1y agoAre they going to raise more than the 6 billion they reportedly spent on acquiring Ive and his team, because they have Ive and his team?
- tim333 1y agoThey spent no cash - it was all stock.
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