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Based on the murderous reaction from the entire family, I doubt the transliteration issue happening or not wouldn't have changed the outcome much. It's a weird
by jeroenhd 2y ago
Based on the murderous reaction from the entire family, I doubt the transliteration issue happening or not wouldn't have changed the outcome much. It's a weird consequence of a transliteration issue, but someone prepared to murder someone else over a rude text is a ticking time bomb regardless.
- omeid2 2y agoIt might seem like an overreaction from a western point of view, but the accusations in the context of Central Asian culture is something so extremely sensitive that people from all walks of life, from nobility to the poor kill and die over it. It is just a different frame of mind.
- 4gotunameagain 2y agoI'm sorry but stabbing someone over a single text message is not cultural difference, is idiocy.
- pjc50 2y agoHonor culture makes people do weird and terrible things. The American cultural version would be the same thing but with a gun.
- omeid2 2y ago"A single text" is an absurd reductionism. People suffer worst than death over words all the time, even in the West. Some folks adhere to honour, some to political groups and ideologies, some religion, some to their social views; there are words that are treated as violence and responded to accordingly in every context.
- g-b-r 2y agoAccordingly would be with (violent) words. Could you tell us where you're from, anyhow?
- GoblinSlayer 2y agoAt least you can defend yourself in that case. For comparison in USA you can go to jail for life if FBI drops a picture on your computer.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoIt's like a Reddit relationships post, it's highly unlikely the single text message was the whole issue.
- batuhanicoz 2y agoThis is an overreaction. It's violence. Trying to justify it by claiming it's part of their culture is not healthy, I think we can have some universal values (don't stab people?) and it is perfectly reasonable to force people to adopt to those values. It's their culture? They can leave the violent parts of culture behind and adopt to the expectations of modern society (not stabbing people). I'm Turkish. I grew up in Turkey. These things happen, but let's not try to justify them. We should aim to get to a point where people share these "western values" (of not stabbing people).
- dooglius 2y agoThe point of the comment you're responding to is not to justify it, the point is to rebut GP's assertion that the violence would have occurred anyway.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago> it is perfectly reasonable to force people to adopt to those values. No, it isn't (slippery slope fallacy I know), because that's what's happening in western politics as we speak and I for one am Not Okay with it.
- readthenotes1 2y agoThe other replies seem to indicate that cultural diversity is fine as long as it's in accord with their culture.
- teddyh 2y ago[flagged]
- watwut 2y agoYou mean ... people upset about nazi salute which was used to express sympathies to the nazi movement and to express alliance with them?
- teddyh 2y ago(See what I mean?) In that particular case, as far as I know, the gesturer himself denies that interpretation, so what people like you are upset about are about your own interpretation, not anything actually confirmed. This is therefore similar to the sıkışınca/sikişınce case, where people were willing and able to kill based on their own interpretation of things, ignoring the denials from the originator of what was being interpreted.
- ses1984 2y agoMaybe if said gesturer had a record of being honest, it would be easier to believe him. How is this man’s record I wonder.
- teddyh 2y agoIf the Turkish texting man had a history of blatant and frequent lying, would that have excused the reasoning and behavior of his wife and her father?
- Dylan16807 2y ago> In that particular case, as far as I know, the gesturer himself denies that interpretation, so what people like you are upset about are about your own interpretation, not anything actually confirmed. My understanding is that he denies expressing support, but doesn't deny support. Which doesn't look good! > If the Turkish texting man had a history of blatant and frequent lying, would that have excused the reasoning and behavior of his wife and her father? It would have excused treating the supposed typo as not a typo. That's a separate question from the reaction after.