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Firefox tab groups are here

• Kim_Bruning 1y ago
  Already using Tree Style Tabs. It's the one critical plugin I need. I still don't understand how anyone works without it.
  • netdevphoenix 1y ago
    Very interesting plugin, I will need to review it sometime soon
  • silveira 1y ago
    The same. Sometimes I pair with people working (programming) and having dozens of tabs open without any vertical tabs plugin. They pretty much have to spend time clicking and searching tab by tab what they need. I don't get why vertical tab is not at least an option in all browsers.
    • masfuerte 1y ago
      TIL that Firefox gained native vertical tabs recently! It's in the General section of Settings.
  • reginald78 1y ago
    It is particularly bizarre to me that the tab bar is horizontal on browsers. We switched to wide screen monitors close to 20 years ago, then stubbornly continued to waste vertical real estate for UI elements. Then webpages all went hard on mobile oriented designs and literally throw away the extra horizontal space by forcing portrait layouts. Yet we still use horizontal bars that make it hard to display tab titles and can't show more than a handful of tabs without a scrollbar showing up.
    • 3D30497420 1y ago
      I do a decent amount of front-end work, so I'll have a browser and code editor side-by side on a 29in monitor. In this situation, I very much prefer horizontal tabs. So that's one use case.
      • sdk- 1y ago
        Exactly this. Plus, I rarely have over 20 tabs and even when I'm close to that number I mainly use the 10 first ones. Vertical tabs is a cool feature but both modes are useful depending your needs.
    • petepete 1y ago
      Firefox has supported vertical tabs for the last year or so.
    • johnnyanmac 1y ago
      I guess it's just habit for me. I like having navigation on top, content in the middle, and OS operations on the bottom. The space was never much of a concern because 1. vertical content is scrollable anyway. if I lose a little space it's 1% more scrolling 2. if I do need the real estate it's one hotkey away. That's how Tree Tabs works, anyway. Use F1 to bring up the hierarchy and then hide it when unnedded
    • LadyCailin 1y ago
      Both FF and Chrome (or anyways, at least Edge) have vertical tabs already. One of the better novel features that browsers have.
  • _fat_santa 1y ago
    FYI. Firefox supports vertical tabs natively now.
    • mostlysimilar 1y ago
      Tree style is better, it gives you a visual hierarchy of where each tab has come from. Makes Wikipedia rabbit holes more interesting.
      • Cshelton 1y ago
        Yes, I wish the native vertical tabs gave that same hierarchy. I will keep using Tree Style Tabs until it does.
    • spixy 1y ago
      Also Edge. One of the reasons I switched from Chrome.
  • apocalyptic0n3 1y ago
    Personally, it's easy for me. If I get above 10 tabs, I just close them all. I don't see any value in having more than that and they just become a distraction for me. Tree style, sidebar tabs, tab groups, etc. are just overkill for me.
    • ARandumGuy 1y ago
      I'm in this boat as well. From my perspective, I'd only bother keeping a tab open for a long period of time if it meets the following criteria: 1) It's something I'd actually want to go and view later (most stuff fails this criteria) 2) It's not something I can easily find again 3) It's something that I only anticipate going back to a couple of times, and thus isn't worth making into a bookmark And over all my years browsing the web, almost nothing satisfies all that criteria. I'm pretty aggressive with closing tabs, and I almost never regret closing a tab.
    • pessimizer 1y ago
      That's just not how some people browse. When I hit HN's frontpage, I open every thread with an interesting headline in a new tab (within the HN tree.) Then I visit them one by one, and at least each one gets another tab opened (for the article.) The article may get multiple tabs opened if it has references or links that are interesting. If there's something that I want to get back to later, or don't have time to read now but looks interesting, it stays open. If I won't get to it for a while (before the next time I return to HN) it gets pulled out of the HN tree into its own tree. HN frontpage |> Interesting thread .|> Interesting article ..|> Interesting link from article 1 ..|> Interesting link from article 2 .|> Link from interesting thread. |> Interesting thread |> Interesting thread |> Interesting thread |> Interesting thread Things that get moved out of tree I might get back to in an hour or a year. If I'm at Amazon trying to buy a spatula, I have 10 different Amazon spatula pages open, and also three articles about spatulas within the tab tree. I dunno. When I go to a bookstore, I don't buy one book, go home, then come back and buy another book. I browse the bookstore, buy everything that I want, and I put most of them on a shelf while I read one. I do not find the shelf a distraction.
  • felbane 1y ago
    I wish there were better coupling between TST and STG (Simple Tab Groups). Automatic nesting of TST is great, but sometimes I'd like to just move a whole tree into a named group. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong.
    • xk_id 1y ago
      https://github.com/piroor/tst-more-tree-commands https://github.com/piroor/tst-more-tree-commands gives you folders and a few extra commands (for which you can configure shortcuts, in about:addons - manage extension shortcuts)
  • LandR 1y ago
    And with some chrome.css changes you can make the sidebar hide until the mouse hovers over it. https://imgur.com/a/SsKe3UC https://imgur.com/a/SsKe3UC
    • jannesan 1y ago
      please do share how you do it :)
      • LandR 1y ago
        Add this to your UserChrome.css for the FireFox profile you use. @namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); #TabsToolbar { visibility: collapse !important; } #sidebar-box { --bar-width: 40px; position: relative !important; overflow-x: hidden !important; /\* margin-right: calc(10px \* -1) !important; */ /* left: var(--bar-width) !important; */ min-width: var(--bar-width) !important; max-width: var(--bar-width) !important; border-right: 1px solid var(--sidebar-border-color); z-index: 3; transition: all 0.1s; } #sidebar-box:hover { --expanded-width: 250px; margin-right: calc( calc(var(--expanded-width) - var(--bar-width)) * -1 ) !important; /\* left: var(--expanded-width) !important; */ min-width: var(--expanded-width) !important; max-width: var(--expanded-width) !important; } #sidebar-box:hover #sidebar-header { min-width: var(--expanded-width) !important; max-width: var(--expanded-width) !important; } /* #sidebar-header is hidden by default, change "none" to "inherit" to restore it. / #sidebar-header { min-width: var(--bar-width) !important; max-width: var(--bar-width) !important; overflow: hidden !important; } /* #sidebar-splitter styles the divider between the sidebar and the rest of the browser. \*/ #sidebar-splitter { display: none; } You might have to create that file in a Chrome folder in your profile folder if it doesnt exist. i.e.: .mozilla/firefox/<your-profile-folder>/chrome/userChrome.css you can find the right folder by going to about:support in the url bar and clicking on Open Directory in the page that shows in the Application Basics grid. This works for me on Ubuntu on FF 137.0.2
• deleted 1y ago
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• mmastrac 1y ago
  I'm hoping they can auto-assign tabs to groups by domain name. Most of my tabs are just random Github links into various repos.
• hooverd 1y ago
  Now we're cooking.
• canadianwriter 1y ago
  I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue with bookmarks and history not being as useful as they could be? Not judging or anything, I just find how other people use tools differently than I do an interesting subject.
  • alabastervlog 1y ago
    I'm not consistent about going back and closing tabs. By the time I've browsed on a couple topics, I have enough tabs open I can't see the titles any more, and it's downhill from there. Some of them, I think "this is good, I'll come back to this when I get a chance" so I don't want to mass-close them. Eventually I'm opening new tabs of tabs I already have open, because it's faster than finding the original. Every now and then, I declare tab bankruptcy, mass bookmark them (to get over the feeling that I'll be closing something important), and close them all. I've never, ever, once, in 15ish years of operating this way, looked at any of the bookmarks. [EDIT] I guess the main issue is that deciding to close tabs I'm not currently looking at takes time, because I have to evaluate each one, and when I'm down to just favicons on the tab itself, that means actually looking at each page. Just periodically mass-bookmarking and closing is less work. It's a UI issue. Plus, if I'm looking at my browser, it's because I'm doing something, and that something is basically never "playing tab-gardener". My very first action is gonna be "new tab" and go from there.
    • DigitalBison 1y ago
      I'm essentially the same way, with the caveat that I do occasionally go back and find something from one of those archived bookmarks. Maybe a couple times a year at most, which is all the validation my lizard brain needs to consider this a critical practice that I will continue doing without questioning for the rest of my life.
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• butterlettuce 1y ago
  Where can I download it? I don't see a link in the blog.
  • echoangle 1y ago
    There's a link at the bottom for me: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ Assuming you want to download firefox. It seems to be integrated into the browser, there's no add-on or so for this that you would need to download separately.
    • butterlettuce 1y ago
      Weird, I had to go into about:config, search for "browser.tabs.groups.enabled" (which was set to false) and enable it there.
  • graton 1y ago
    It is built into the latest version of Firefox. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
  • neogodless 1y ago
    As others said, it will be built into Firefox, and is already part of the mid-April release, but apparently not yet enabled. When I updated to 137.0.2, it opened the following page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups > Starting in Firefox version 137, you can use tab groups to manage open tabs in Firefox by grouping them together and labelling them. All users should expect to see the feature by May 6, 2025.
• neogodless 1y ago
  Hmm if this would just automatically work with / integrate with multi-account containers it would probably be particularly helpful. e.g. just let me check an option to group items that share a multi-account container into the same tab group.
• surajrmal 1y ago
  Why did it take so long? It was their number one request for 3 years and chrome pushed this feature nearly 5 years ago. The design looks like a straight copy of chrome so it's not like there was a large design process to work out. It feels like it was finally prioritized so that they could "improve" it with ai, similar to what chrome is doing.
  • ianwalter 1y ago
    Yea crazy how long it took. Zen browser users have been waiting for them to ship this so it can be used in Zen. Of course they announce this the day I switch to Orion.
  • Spunkie 1y ago
    I think it was just stubbornness, pure and simple. Firefox actually had a feature like tab groups a long time ago. It was removed for "low usage" and ever since then they have been resisting reimplementing it. Anyways it still needs improvement but I am very happy to see this finally land. At work we have been moving everyone off of chrome after the manifest v3 shenanigans and the lack of tabs groups was a long standing sticking point for some users.
    • hysan 1y ago
      This sums up my experience with everything Firefox. It's why it slowly fell behind in UX and stopped being my primary browser ages ago. I keep giving it a try every year, but the gap between FF and other browsers just keeps getting wider and wider. This is a nice small step, but FF has a long way to go to catchup.
      • LadyCailin 1y ago
        FF having a real Adblock solution closes the gap dramatically for me.
      • kelipso 1y ago
        Same. Related example is Chrome and Safari have profiles while Firefox is still stuck in the tab groups era.
• fikama 1y ago
  It's just a clone of chrome feature. Cool they impelmented it too. I just don't see this "we listen to the community" more like "we are just trailing behind chrome"
  • CivBase 1y ago
    I really hope their implementation on mobile is better than Chrome's. I prefer no tab groups on mobile over what Chrome did.
  • Klaster_1 1y ago
    Opera had vertical tabs and groups in 2010.
  • BuckRogers 1y ago
    I used FF for 20 years and moved to Edge a few years ago. I thought similar about this feature, Edge has had tab groups and vertical tabs for a long time now.
• lencastre 1y ago
  Is this a superior solution to the firefox containers add on?
  • graton 1y ago
    Seems different to me. Containers allow you to have different cookies per container.
    • pbhjpbhj 1y ago
      I think I'd combine the two features, each tab group having it's own container. I'm sure some use would lose their space-bar actuated room heater or whatever the relevant xkcd is.
      • BHSPitMonkey 1y ago
        They're really not the same concern at all. If groups needed to function as containers (or did by default), you would be logged out of a site if you tried to visit it outside of a tab group (or dragged the tab in/out).
• freddydumont 1y ago
  Seems like it still won’t replace Sidebery for me as this provides only a single grouping layer.
  • Ezhik 1y ago
    To replace Sidebery Firefox would need to clone like half of Arc Browser.
    • honieware 1y ago
      Arc is dead, long live Arc. Best we can hope for while The Browser Company is toying with their investor-bait "AI browser" is for other browsers and extensions to copy the good parts of it.
• blackenedgem 1y ago
  The funny thing is Firefox already perfected this feature years ago with Panorama. Then one day decided to remove it because "less than 1% of users use it" (https://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-45-will-drop-tab-groups-panorama-495775.shtml https://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-45-will-drop-tab-gro...) There's been community forks of it since then that I switched to and will continue to use instead. Grouping tabs at the top is much worse UX than an entire page you can drag and drop around, and blatantly copying Chrome.
  • kjkjadksj 1y ago
    What percent of their users even have telemetry enabled? Mozilla always pulls this crap, using these biased telemetry numbers as a fig leaf to drop genuinely useful features. Luckily they still allow for community modification.
    • reginald78 1y ago
      Sadly, this seems to be the general purpose of telemetry. If the gathered statistics can be contorted to justify doing something you wanted to do anyway, then telemetry will be used for just that. If it says something else, just ignore it and say you don't have enough resources or something. Proponents suggest it is necessary to improve software. Microsoft has extensively used telemetry for at least 10 years in Windows, does that feel improved to anyone during that time? I'm of the opinion they largely used it to identify what existing features users were still being productive with so they could be enshitified next.
    • JohnTHaller 1y ago
      Most users leave telemetry enabled. It's enabled by default.
  • lostmsu 1y ago
    Exactly. The Panorama View is descent, but it tends to lose everything if you accidentally close the wrong window.
• deafpolygon 1y ago
  AI powered smart groups... more AI, yay. /s obviously I wish companies would spend less time shoving AI down our throats, because I feel like they are over-hyped and the privacy trade-off is rarely worth it.
• rad_gruchalski 1y ago
  Awesome, looks more convenient than onetab.
• lostmsu 1y ago
  I started reconsidering Edge literally last week because Panorama View managed to lose my groups again, and Edge has excellent workspaces (envy). Haven't tried the new groups yet, but from the video it is unclear what to do if I don't want them to constantly stay visible in the tab bar. The whole point for me is decluttering it from something I don't need at the moment.
  • internet_points 1y ago
    If you click the little < left-scroll arrow on the left of your tab bar a few hundred times you'll eventually get to the start of your tab group. Then there will be a box [ ] that you can click. That will toggle visibility of the tab group, so all the tabs in it will be hidden. Click the box again to expand the group.
• yoavm 1y ago
  This, together with the "Expand sidebar on hover" for vertical tabs, means that I can almost stop using a customized userchrome.css file completely, and that I've disabled Sidebery. It's great to have this implemented natively!
• nelblu 1y ago
  A little tangential question, but what is up with the "Distilled" logo on their blog site? I don't think I ever noticed this earlier, and I can't seem to find anything on their blog explaining it.
• righthand 1y ago
  Why is the demo video not of the actual implementation but instead using a barebones wireframe that looks nothing like Firefox?
• righthand 1y ago
  I wonder when this will come to Librewolf.
• izzydata 1y ago
  For some reason I had thought this was already implemented and I just wasn't using it because I don't have a lot of tabs open. It appears I was mistaken. Nice to see this implemented in Firefox.
  • yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago
    It was an existing feature, then it got moved to an extension, then they broke the extension. And then, much later, they implemented it again.
• m4r1k 1y ago
  Apparently, they've also released a new profile manager that's finally simpler than the clunky earlier one. This is the last feature I really need for my workflow to completely ditch Chrome. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management
  • philsnow 1y ago
    > Firefox prevents syncing multiple profiles with the same Mozilla account on the same device. If you create a new Firefox profile and then try to sign in to Sync with the same Mozilla account used in the other profile on that device, Firefox will block the sign-in to keep profiles separate. Is this just a temporary technical limitation / anybody know if there are plans to fix this? Why should the user need to remember which profile is synced on a given device?
    • pxoe 1y ago
      It's probably not broken but just works that way. Profiles are separate in more ways. Syncing all profiles could be counterproductive and unwanted. (for example, profiles which might just belong to different people - though it may be unlikely on a same pc but nonetheless. or syncing profiles that are intentionally kept separate, like work and personal stuff). It's not how it worked before in firefox, and it's not how it works on chrome or other browsers, and it's probably not in users expectations, when they expect separate things to be actually separate. (which seems to utterly confuse people who mix up container tabs and profiles functionality.) Conversely, why should someone remember, or rather, suddenly find out, that every profile in some firefox install is syncing to a same account, even though it is "intended" to be a separate, brand new, start from scratch kinda thing?
  • pxoe 1y ago
    Hooray, it only took them ...a decade or so?
    • m4r1k 1y ago
      The weird thing is that Firefox has been quick at developing and introducing some features while others did not land for a very long time. If their aim is gaining more Chrome users, I hope a gap analysis was done as well as feature prioritization
• AdmiralAsshat 1y ago
  I've not changed anything on my home setup yet, but I've been experimenting with vertical tabs and tabs groups for the past week or so. I'm not sure if vertical tabs are doing me any good, but I think Tab Groups have really been aiding my productivity. I have so many tasks I'm working on in a given day, constantly jumping between specific instances of the same site over and over. For example, on any given ticket I'm working on, I've probably got tabs open for: the JIRA ticket, Bitbucket code, Sharepoint documentation, an AWS console, DataDog logs, etc. And I'm probably jumping between at least five tickets a day, depending on if I hit a roadblock with one or a different one is suddenly getting escalated. Being able to GROUP all of those five tabs into one little block that I can label with the ticket number, and then hide/re-expand them when I'm ready to come back to it...that's pretty awesome. The only part about Tab Groups that has confused me so far is that there's a right-click option when clicking on a group that says "Save and Close Group". I've closed it, but have not figured out how to bring it back once closed...so I'm not sure what the point of "saving" it is.
  • JohnTHaller 1y ago
    The Panorama View extension can also help with organization. A whole set of tabs for a different context, for instance.
  • abhinavk 1y ago
    Saved groups are shown in the List all Tabs menu (the button on the right of tab bar)
    • LPNintendo 1y ago
      that button is NOT there
• submeta 1y ago
  Love Firefox. More than Safari or Chrome. Not only function wise. But also mission wise. Keep up the good work Mozilla.
  • rpastuszak 1y ago
    > But also mission wise I have bad news for you my friend. For years, most of (+90%) Mozilla's revenue was ad partnership based*. Recently this has gotten worse: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43203096 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43203096 * https://untested.sonnet.io/notes/defaults-matter-dont-assume-consent/ https://untested.sonnet.io/notes/defaults-matter-dont-assume...
  • pbhjpbhj 1y ago
    The mission for the last five years or so seems to have been enrich the CEO and piss off the users?
• sh3rl0ck 1y ago
  always wanted this, FINALLY. Moving from Arc to Zen, this was the biggest drawback I felt, and now, I'm just waiting for the merge!
  • xemoka 1y ago
    Similarly moved from Arc to Zen; hopefully this will allow for multiple windows/views into the same set of tabs? or at least a future possibility.
  • intothemild 1y ago
    Only thing holding me back from moving from Arc to Zen is syncing.
• ochronus 1y ago
  Finally, I can use Firefox again!
• submeta 1y ago
  I never thought I‘d belong to the group of people who never close tabs. Had read David Allen some twenty years ago and subscribed to his „inbox zero“ mantra. Until I realized I don’t have the time to clean up. I keep doing stuff, and when the chaos surpasses thresholds, I reset that system (close all tabs, restart, start with a clean slate). But this sounds interesting. Will give it a try.
• penguin_booze 1y ago
  I found that tab groups themselves are not synced. So, grouped tabs from one machine will appear as random set of tabs on another machine.
• thibran 1y ago
  After Firefox Mobile, killing Thunderbird and a sharp decline in market share, Mozilla finally starts to build what it's users want. Selling it as gigantic success is very American. In the end vertical tabs are nice and I hope I like the new tab groups too (the previous official tab group addon got killed by Mozilla and 'destroyed' my workflows at the time). Let's see, maybe Mozilla is on the path to something great yet again by being more innovative.
• yapyap 1y ago
  > What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it How about 4500 people ask mozilla not to sell their data? Snark aside, I’m still a firefox user because they haven’t molested us with manifest v3 yet. I hope it stays that way.
• Torwald 1y ago
  Every Firefox upgrade involving tabs makes me hope they finally debug the tab closing button on macOS. Disappointed again. On macOS the tab close button belongs to the left side, not on the right side. Firefox still gets it wrong. This is a usability flaw that renders it basically unusable to me. I suspect this oversight stems from too many programmers not having enough understanding about proper application design and development on the Mac. It's a cultural issue then. But I keep hoping, mainly because other browser vendors get it right. Namely Vivaldi and Opera amongst others.
• causality0 1y ago
  I have tons of tabs open but tab grouping is an anti-feature. It takes way more time fucking around with tab groups, opening them, closing them, moving then around than I've ever saved by using them.
  • jacobgkau 1y ago
    Yeah, I've had close to a thousand tabs open regularly on my main system, but I just use windows as my tab groups (and workspaces as my window groups). Another layer of grouping isn't what I need to manage that better. I do think it's nice to have as an option for the many people who seem to want it, though.
• pppp 1y ago
  Is there a way to hide the colored tab group buttons so they can only be seen in the List-all-tabs drop-down?
  • _Algernon_ 1y ago
    You can Right Click->Save and Close Group. Though it will reopen if you select it from the dropdown.
    • LPNintendo 1y ago
      there is no drop down
• noisy_boy 1y ago
  I open a new window for each "topic" to keep the tabs grouped while keeping unrelated things separate. I also use an extension (on my phone so can't lookup the name) to give names to each of these groups of tabs. Only the "main" window with it's tabs automatically starts up upon browser launch. For the rest of the named groups, the extension provides a button on the toolbar to "resume" any named group which launches its tabs in a new window. This workflow reduces startup time and only keeps those things open that I'm actively looking at.
• fifilura 1y ago
  Wikipedia has an entire, rather amusing, section on the dangers of tab hoarding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_(interface)#Tab_hoarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_(interface)#Tab_hoarding
  • 201984 1y ago
    That's hilarious. > Tab hoarding can lead to stress and information overload, distraction, and reduced computer performance. It can develop into emotional attachment to the set of open tabs, including fear of losing them upon a crash or other reboot, and conversely, relief when tabs are properly restored. Tab hoarders have attributed the behavior to anxiety, fear of missing out, procrastination, and poor personal information management practices.
  • imjonse 1y ago
    amusing, but true.
• guerby 1y ago
  about:config and then set browser.tabs.groups.enabled I'm really puzzled by the UI, you have to drag and drop a tab onto another to create a tab group. This really sucks because now when you want to move a tab you have to be pixel and timing exact to not create a tab group. Most of the time when moving a tab I end up creating a tab group then having to right click and then "ungroup tab" Also you cannot move tab group at all Why not just having a right click or icon to create a tab group? Anyone else being annoyed? Note: I'm using vertical tabs option in firefox settings
  • _Algernon_ 1y ago
    >I'm really puzzled by the UI, you have to drag and drop a tab onto another to create a tab group. You can also use Right Click->Add Tab To Group This is what I use as the pull tabs together is very bad UI. It's to easy to move the tab instead and / or open a new window. Hope this improves with time.
    • guerby 1y ago
      Thanks for the right click, I don't know how I missed it the first time I looked... Do you know how do you move a tab group once created? Right click has a menu manage but only option is to create a new window with the tab group. Drag and drop doesn't to work on the tab group (to reorder it vs other groups and tabs).
      • dao- 1y ago
        > Do you know how do you move a tab group once created? It should work once you've updated to Firefox 138.
        • guerby 1y ago
          It does thanks!
  • saurik 1y ago
    FWIW, that was also my experience when Edge added this feature. It was particularly annoying as I did not ever want to use the feature. I guess Firefox wanted to be bug-for-bug compatible? :(
• conceptualspace 1y ago
  one reason tab management is so important is because bookmark management is so bad. ive tried to solve for this with a thumbnail view for bookmarks on the new tab page: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/yet-another-speed-dial/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/yet-another-speed-d... it uses open graph images so the previews are more useful on a wider range of pages than simple favicons like the native new tab page. any suggestions or feedback welcome, ama!
  • skydhash 1y ago
    Bookmarks are OK. I's just that their purposes largely varies. There's the "pin this" bookmark for sites that are often visited, there's the "save for later" bookmark for things you want to go back to later", and there's the "interesting" bookmark for things you don't need now, but would be too much trouble to find. Maybe some days, I will code an extension for all those uses cases. For now, I put the first in the bookmark toolbar and the others in "Other bookmarks" while occasionally create folders for the last type.
• badgersnake 1y ago
  Shame Google Meet doesn’t work anymore.
  • smilliken 1y ago
    Works in firefox for many people I work with. Perhaps worth troubleshooting? Or maybe Google serves different bits to different people.
    • badgersnake 1y ago
      Camera frequently fails to work at all, or takes 45 seconds to detect. Audio is flakey, sometime mic doesn’t work at all. Not to mention GitHub is unusable, they seem to have done something to the comments view that doesn’t really work. And the Trello GitHub plugin doesn’t work at all.
    • antonchekhov 1y ago
      Window-sharing doesn't work at all in Firefox (last several versions) on macOS 15.4; Safari works fine for Google Meet events.
• gorbachev 1y ago
  Is there a way to migrate from tab groups implemented by an add-on? In my case I have been using Simple Tab Groups (STG) for years. I want to copy my STG tab groups, import them into the native tab groups, test that out and decide if I like STG or the native functionality better.
• deleted 1y ago
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• mulhoon 1y ago
  I know this sounds crazy, but has any browser just tried implementing two (or more) horizontal rows of tabs? - the user can decide to put them up the top or on the second row based on their own prioritising. Or just zip them up. Not saying it’s a great idea but these kind of horizontal chrome groups never worked for me, and Arc tabs are too vertical for me.
  • agumonkey 1y ago
    Interesting trick imo
  • seraphine 1y ago
    Vivaldi has had this for some time now. https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tabs/tab-stacks/ https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tabs/tab-stacks/
  • skydhash 1y ago
    I would like more a completion based input for search. The address bar can work. but it's usually at a weird place and not configurable (in terms of number of items, labels, and sorting). I would like some command/query popup bar. And then I can reduce the vertical space taken by the tab bar, the toolbar, and the bookmarks menu.
  • orbital-decay 1y ago
    >I know this sounds crazy, but has any browser just tried implementing two (or more) horizontal rows of tabs? Yes. Firefox. (it was like that long ago)
• giancarlostoro 1y ago
  This is weird to me because like 10 years ago Firefox had something with tabs that I loved, where you could have workspaces and switch between them, then that randomly disappeared. It was called Panorama and that was removed in Firefox 45
  • opello 1y ago
    There's an extension[1] now that restores the functionality, but the removal is exactly why I'm hesitant to try a new tab organizational tool: the loss of the last one was workflow breaking enough to break trust. [1] https://github.com/projectdelphai/panorama-tab-groups https://github.com/projectdelphai/panorama-tab-groups
    • giancarlostoro 1y ago
      Wow, its a shame that looks unmaintained, that tabbing feature was one of the best things in Firefox at the time.
      • opello 1y ago
        I still use it successfully, but there are a few annoyances with drag and drop in the panorama view. It isn't as nice as when it was integrated unfortunately.
        • giancarlostoro 1y ago
          Wow! That's actually surprising (and not so given how unmaintained it is).
  • m_t 1y ago
    Thank you for mentioning this. I felt like I was going crazy not seeing anyone mentioning it in the comments. This was a very important feature to le at the time, as I used to work on multiple projects at the same time, and I had all of those organised in a simple, very visual way. I also had a group for "communication" with all my webmails, forums, etc. And another one with all the webcomics I used to read at the time.
• derfnugget 1y ago
  "What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it." What a weird flex. I think if you make >700 million dollars a year you should have someone driving instead of feature farming the comments section.
  • unethical_ban 1y ago
    What a weird way to say they shouldn't listen to their users.
    • pbhjpbhj 1y ago
      The parent is clearly bemoaning the lack of apparent creativity that comes from a FOSS golden child. Yes, implement generic features like vertical tabs (but who wouldn't implement them at this point without nesting?), but some creative experiments in UI/UX that seek to improve the browsing experience might also be possible?
• eviks 1y ago
  Glad thousands of users who managed to find their feature voting site pushed Mozilla to do a few baby steps Though the current interface isn't good - mandatory group names (which also waste space in the precious tab bar by default) and inability to ungroup with a single key (due to naming conflict) - adds too much friction. Also drag&drop to group is too precise, but also can't be disable, so now you can't reliably move tabs around with a mouse without risking triggering the grouping And, of course, one other top-10 request - to have custom keybinds to group/ungroup - is still too far from the minimum 4500 required to implement it after a few years...
  • GordonS 1y ago
    I'd love to be able to use an icon instead of names - maybe it could let you select a favicon from one of the member tabs.
    • reustle 1y ago
      You can use a single emoji as a group name
      • accrual 1y ago
        Glad to hear this works. My bookmark folders are sometimes just a single emoji - takes up less space but still hints at the contents.
  • maccard 1y ago
    Mozilla can’t win. They implement a feature and this is one of the top comments from the community that should be its target audience,
    • eviks 1y ago
      Why would you expect a poor implementation of a feature available in competing browsers to have any chance of winning?
• account-5 1y ago
  I have been waiting for this. I currently use profiles, and container tabs, this will further help organising stuff.
• sebastian_z 1y ago
  Since I do not need it and kept accidentally enabling tab groups I looked for a way to turn it off. You can do so by setting browser.tabs.groups.enabled and browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled to false in about:config.
• AbuAssar 1y ago
  Great news, I use tab groups daily in Safari and recently in Firefox beta. In Firefox, tab groups work better with a vertical tab bar. In Safari, there is a feature that I wish comes to Firefox: that the tabs in each group act as bookmarks, i.e., they persist across browser restarts and new windows. They are always there within their group; only the tabs that are not in a group are volatile. This makes tab groups more useful, as you don't fear losing them no matter what.
  • Brybry 1y ago
    Firefox tab groups persist across browser restarts (or at least mine have for ~5 months now). I haven't had any issues with new windows yet either though I have definitely lost Firefox tabs to that issue in the past. I agree though, Chrome does a similar implementation where tab groups act like a special class of bookmarks and it's much nicer. You have the same process where you never have to fear losing groups and you can 'hide' tab groups that you aren't actively using and they're potentially accessible from any window.
• GloriousKoji 1y ago
  > What happens when 4,500 people ask for the same feature? At Firefox, we build it. That's allegedly less people asking for the feature than the tabs I have open or 0.0028% of the user base. I don't believe it.
  • pbhjpbhj 1y ago
    That's the critical limit. They build it in as a non-removable addon and reenable it every update. Anything more popular is not allowed! /s
• dizhn 1y ago
  What a roller coaster ride of a post. Great job guys. No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release. What release version that is. How to enable it. How to actually use it. Where to go for documentation or bugs. And congratulations on concentrating on the one top feature request. What's next? Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist?
  • godelski 1y ago
    > No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release FWIW, I updated and was presented with a new tab announcing this feature. So... update. > Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist? Looks like browsers are hard https://gbhackers.com/google-to-patch-23-year-old-chrome-bug/
    • Smar 1y ago
      Maybe browsers should be wholly rewritten in Javascript to give a modern refresh ...wait.
    • esnard 1y ago
      I've updated (Firefox 138.0) and the feature doesn't seem to exist in my browser, even when carefully reproducing the steps in the video / tutorial. From the support page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups > This feature is experimental and is being introduced to the Firefox user base through a progressive rollout. It may not yet be available to all users. I'll wait a few more days then I guess?
      • dizhn 1y ago
        In about:config, set browser.tabs.groups.enabled to true. (I am on 137)
  • SloopJon 1y ago
    This is a better link for the actual feature, as opposed to the process that led to its prioritization: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-tab-groups/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-tab-groups/
• lanfeust6 1y ago
  Meanwhile my pinned tabs still disappear when re-loading the browser.
• xacky 1y ago
  How about fixing bug 1813919, which is an actual usability bug?
• billmcneale 1y ago
  How is this different from creating a folder of links on my Bookmarks bar and selecting "Open all"?
• ksec 1y ago
  Unfortunately I can no longer find it. But I still remember being called psychopath and having mental health issues on HN for having a few hundreds tabs opened.
  • pbhjpbhj 1y ago
    I mean, I'm not surprised, how do you cope with so few tabs?!
• stainablesteel 1y ago
  i've been using horizontal tree tabs for years, but this looks like a built in native version maybe they can make it horizontal next
• metalliqaz 1y ago
  Very frustrating that it's not available in my Firefox yet.
  • olex 1y ago
    It's available for everybody since FF 137, just randomly not enabled. Go to about:config and then set browser.tabs.groups.enabled to true.
• dublin 1y ago
  We'll see how this holds up. I currently have nearly 3283 tabs in my primary Firefox window. (The other six windows only have 35-125 tabs at the moment. I sort of use the windows as tab groups.) To its credit, Firefox is the only browser that does not either slow to a crawl or just fall over dead with that many tabs. I still need a good tool to merge bookmarks from a bunch of older Firefox profiles, though. Does anyone know of a good tool to do that?
• Arech 1y ago
  I don't want to rant, but I don't a tiny bit like the UI they have made for tab groups, and I won't use it. They should have just paid lavishly to the developer of Simple Tab Groups, and incorporate that extension into the master. Fast, cheap and perfect result. Instead they made....this :(
• godelski 1y ago
  Is this feature failing for anyone else? I drag one tab onto another and it just tries moving the tabs, not grouping. Yes, I updated. After doing so it told me about this feature. No, I also cannot see the tab group creation when right clicking. FF 138.0, Sequoia
  • aquova 1y ago
    I just updated on my work Windows machine, it seems to be working great
  • lazycouchpotato 1y ago
    Appears to still be rolling out progressively - something that the release notes left out. I'm on 138.0 and I don't have it either. > All users should expect to see the feature by May 6, 2025. [1] [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups
    • godelski 1y ago
      Seems weird to announce it as part of a version and then also as a rolling release. Seems like the message could be much clearer by saying it is part of the browser but may be disabled by default. FWIW, I checked about:config. There's some options in here that seem highly relevant browser.tabs.groups.enabled false browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled false browser.tabs.groups.smart.optin false browser.tabs.groups.smart.userEnabled true These are the settings I have by default that are not allowing grouping. Changing `browser.tabs.groups.enabled` to `true` enables the feature. Though note that it can still be difficult to align them right such that they group. Presumably `browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled` is the AI feature mentioned in the article. But I have no idea what `browser.tabs.groups.smart.optin` and `browser.tabs.groups.smart.userEnabled` are.
  • II2II 1y ago
    I figured out why the feature was failing on my system: I needed to enable Install and Run Studies under Send technical and interaction data to Mozilla under Firefox Data Collection and Use under Privacy & Security under Settings. I can understand why Mozilla would do that (they consider it an experimental feature). Along the same line, the Firefox Labs section of Settings requires the same settings to be enabled. When I enabled it under about:config then opened the settings, the label would briefly appear then disappear. When I went back to about:config, I found the setting was reset to disabled. Again, I can understand why Mozilla would do that. Yet understanding why is not the same as accepting why. If they want to promote themselves as an open and privacy preserving web browser, they should accept there are some compromises to be made when it comes down to letting users experiment and collecting telemetry.
• ncr100 1y ago
  I'm so thankful for this. Chrome has tab groups and it helps. And I want to move away from Chrome because Google.
• neocron 1y ago
  I wonder how many times I saw this feature implemented, die, missed and implemented again... Especially in Firefox all features seem to have relatively short but endless circles of dying and resurrection
• talles 1y ago
  I think I've seen this feature announced a million of times, by pretty much all web browser makers
• 725686 1y ago
  I have never understood why people have hundreds, or even thousands of tabs. Why not use bookmarks? Hoarders.
• ryandrake 1y ago
  These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I see no reason to keep a tab around.
  • HSO 1y ago
    I´m pretty much the same now. I tried bookmarking everything in a dated folder "just in case" blabla but I always ended up either forgetting the site or if I really need it find and reopen it the normal way. Since I transitioned to Obsidian recently I wrote a few simple macros to put the link into my "daily note". Add a few tags or even a comment if I am so inclined and boom, so far when I really want to find sth back I can actually search for it in my own notes. Much better than a bunch of tabs! (It helps that I´m currently on a really small machine (8 GB RAM) so that gives some discipline)
    • abnercoimbre 1y ago
      This is very much a tangent, but I blinked a few times here: > I'm currently on a really small machine (8 GB RAM) Thanks to the proliferation of electron apps I suppose you're correct. But wow!
  • edave64 1y ago
    I do tend to let tabs accumulate, but then I turn off my PC at the end of the day and let all tabs fall into the void. I like to start the day with a blank slate. Which seems to be such an uncommon thing to do that I couldn't convince FF on my last few Linux installs not to restore tabs when reopening. I've changed the obvious settings for it, I've set the flags in about:config, I've even completely disabled crash recovery and related features. It would still always reopen the last session
  • burkaman 1y ago
    If you were really hardcore you'd erase your entire OS whenever you're done for the day: https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/ https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/
• bityard 1y ago
  It's worth remembering that Firefox HAD tab groups before, just under a different name and then killed it because "nobody used it": https://medium.com/@twidi/how-i-survived-the-removal-of-panorama-in-firefox-2b898b027877 https://medium.com/@twidi/how-i-survived-the-removal-of-pano... The implementation here is a bit different, I'm sure, but the core idea is the same: Group your tabs however you like and switch between the groups at will. I use Vivaldi these days (thanks to it's excellent UI customization and "Workspaces" tab groups) so I don't see myself going back to Firefox. Maybe this is a new trend of FF devs actually adding features instead of only removing them. I guess we'll see how long this one lasts.
  • bobajeff 1y ago
    I'm nobody. I loved panorama. It was basically Exposé but in a browser which allowed me to keep not just tabs but 'Windows' organized visually without taking up separate tasks in my actual task manager. This new feature (which I've already gotten to test), I can almost use the same way, though I'm wary of Mozilla yanking it away from me if I rely on it.
    • y33t 1y ago
      Personally I love the feature, but I really feel like window managers/desktop environments should be handling window tabs. Imagine your desktop handling all tabs across all programs the same exact way instead of being reimplemented differently for each program. You could window switch to Firefox with alt-tab, add a ctrl- to your key combo and cycle through tabs in that window. Or imagine typing the title of a tab in your desktop's searchbar and being taken directly to it. At the very least it'd make managing 100+ open tabs more feasible.
      • rebelpixel 1y ago
        Google Chrome had this on Android several years ago, but it was quickly yanked out—probably because people hated it as it felt like ti bogged down the OS with it. Personally, it felt like information overload forced into a limited UX context. But now with advancements like tab unloading/discarding and faster CPUs, it might work for some people om mobile devices. Desktop browsers though might still be hampered by limited task/context-switching options.
• SietrixDev 1y ago
  If I could assign a bookmark to a container, that would be great. I don’t like Sidebery and it doesn’t really work for me. Another thing that annoys me in Firefox is that they recently changed the sidebar. I still use Firefox though. Rant over.
• esafak 1y ago
  I just updated to 138 on MacOS but I don't have this feature, so I guess it's not here for all of us.
• aodj 1y ago
  Are there any known issues with it? I just updated on my Mac and don't appear to be able to group tabs - dragging one on top of another just reorders them
• hardwaresofton 1y ago
  Wow, this is a fantastic feature that was heavily requested, and HN cannot stop being negative. Great job Mozilla. I was already using the awesome “Simple Tab Groups” extension for this but will look into switching.
  • kryptn 1y ago
    I've been liking the new vertical tabs too.
    • evanb 1y ago
      It's so much better than any of the extension-based XUL interface hacks. As soon as they can figure out when to auto-expand the sidebar it will be perfect.
      • throw10920 1y ago
        Firefox moved away from XUL extensions years ago - they now use a well-defined WebExtension model that is kind of the opposite of hacky.
        • wtallis 1y ago
          And yet, many of the extensions that in the XUL days could cleanly change the browser's UI now have a much more hacky user experience.
          • throw10920 1y ago
            Yes, because the APIs aren't perfectly fleshed-out. And they may never be, and yet that's still completely OK because the WebExtension model is obviously better along the performance, security, portability, and API stability axes.
            • wtallis 1y ago
              WebExtensions aren't clearly better from a performance standpoint. Performance won by removing useful features doesn't count.
• throwaway743950 1y ago
  We get tab groups, but can't get a working gradient without banding. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627771 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627771
  • lupusreal 1y ago
    Not that one actually has anything to do with the other, but I'd rather have useful functionality than meaningless aesthetic crap that I'd never notice if I wasn't examining the pixels with a magnifying glass.
    • spartanatreyu 1y ago
      I don't know about you, but this seems pretty damn noticeable: https://bug627771.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=9462113 https://bug627771.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=94621... Every photo of a landscape ends up with these weird giant floating blobs in the sky.
• gitroom 1y ago
  Kinda wild watching every browser finally get around to this after all these years - feels like the stuff people actually want is what keeps slipping through the cracks most. You ever wonder why the basics take forever to get built while every company chases the next shiny thing?
• ugh123 1y ago
  At minimum I should be able to re-group tabs by domain.
• bovermyer 1y ago
  "I used to have 30 windows open, each with 30 or 40 tabs." I can't be the only person who only ever has about 2-3 tabs open at a time in a single window.
• Narushia 1y ago
  Now they only need instant tab search, like Chrome does with Ctrl+Shift+A. It's like the last thing I'm personally missing before I can actually make Firefox my primary browser. Chrome's tab search is so damn good for navigating in a big tab jungle, it's one of my favorite and most used features of the browser.
  • ssnepenthe 1y ago
    Not sure how it compares to chrome but firefox does have a solid open tab search. You can either click "list all tabs" button (down arrow to the right of the new tab button) and then "search tabs" or enter "%" as the first character in the address bar followed by your search term. As far as I know there is no keyboard shortcut for it.
    • Izkata 1y ago
      They changed the official named from "address bar" to "location bar" ages ago when they added functionality like that, and to go with the new name, "ctrl + l" is a shortcut for it.
      • appointment 1y ago
        Netscape always called the url bar the "location bar". "Address bar" is Internet Explorer's term. (At some point Netscape/Mozilla copied the ctrl+d shortcut for A_d_dress from IE as well.)
    • Narushia 1y ago
      Yeah, I know about that. It's unfortunately not as snappy or usable as Chrome's, because you can't activate the search with a single key combination. The item focus behavior is also distracting: when you type in your search, the best match is not automatically focused, so you have to press the down arrow key and then press enter to activate it. In Chrome, you just press Ctrl+Shift+A, type in the search, and press enter (99 % of the time). So for the whole process, Firefox has two extra steps. It ends up being a lot because I use this feature dozens of times in a day.
• stzsch 1y ago
  I've been really happy with the winger addon for managing tabs. I really am closer than ever to complete control. (no relation, just a user) It adds a dropdown list of windows in the tab bar in which you can name each window, move tabs between windows, and save/restore windows into bookmarks. Now instead of having 1000 tabs in 20 odd windows and eventually declaring bankrupcy, I have 1000 tabs in 20 _named_ windows alongside 500 bookmark folders of (named!) past sessions. Much better.
• BosunoB 1y ago
  I switched to Floorp last month and it's amazing. It's a Firefox fork with tab rows. Tab rows are the real MVP. None of the annoying weirdness of Tree Style Tabs, where you have to keep track of a hierarchy of tabs that are hidden behind other tabs. Instead, you just see 3-4 rows of tabs and you make a mental map of what is where. Once they release the new version in a month or two, we'll also get newer Firefox features like these tab groups, and we'll also get workspace improvements. Floorp is 10/10.
• kif 1y ago
  As someone who frequently has tens of open tabs across different windows, this will be massively helpful. Especially since I frequently find myself trying to remember which window was for which ‘mental group’.
• aucisson_masque 1y ago
  > Other browsers might send your tab info to the cloud, but Firefox keeps it on your device. Your tabs stay private and never leave your device. I guess it answer my question about having tab groups sync to mobile phone. Maybe in 3 more year..
  • sberder 1y ago
    This seems to be a quote aimed at the AI feature, not the syncing.
  • remram 1y ago
    Still no bookmark tags so don't hold your breath
• pestat0m 1y ago
  The link just tells me to download new firefox: """ blog.mozilla.org Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly. Click here for more information """
• pacifika 1y ago
  How does one quickly find the right window when you have a few open? This is why I only keep one open.
• cryptonector 1y ago
  Does Mozilla still steal everything I type into FF and sell it? Or just steal it? Does it?
• OJFord 1y ago
  Horizontal tabs, tab groups, seems native Firefox is almost if not at the point where I don't need an extension for tabbing any more, which would be great in my books. (Currently and for almost a decade using Sidebery. The containers integration and 'panels' is what I think might still be missing for me to switch. I'd probably sacrifice the former, but I love panels.)
• ValveFan6969 1y ago
  I'd love to see Tab Groups, but what I don't love is how Firefox has lost their focus and vision. For years, Mozilla's mission was not only to provide a private and secure browsing experience, but one that was also lightweight and simple. Nowadays, it seems their idea of innovation is to just rip off Chrome's features.
• deckplecksetter 1y ago
  Amazing news. This was the one thing keeping me from switching from Chrome to Firefox.
• methuselah_in 1y ago
  Pls stay revelat and don't die and keep on working against all chrome and stuff. And we hope your financial woes could be taken care of with donations if Google's money no longer dry up. There is no replacement as of now for firefox. And recent issues with your privacy and adds things are not good either when it comes to people which are your users. Mostly we care about our data. Btw nice feature long awaited.
• scoofy 1y ago
  Yay!
• vivzkestrel 1y ago
  I have no idea why people need 500 tabs open. Like dude I never go beyond 12 tabs on my machine like ever. Aren't you too distracted if you have that many tabs open. Perhaps you should complete the task in some of the tabs and close em?
  • graynk 1y ago
    Perhaps you should let different people have different workflows?
• ForOldHack 1y ago
  I will now never know. I have used nightly for more than a decade. It was the only reason. To run a 64-bit os. They fixed multiple problems over night, multiple times. Many little tiny things that made it better, nicer and faster. That all ended four days ago. Now nightly will use up all memory on a 4gb, 8gb, 16gb and my 64gb system. It's unusable everywhere. Since I have it installed everywhere, I backed off to an older ESR. It either crashes on hacker news or says I am posting too fast. ( I have never ever ever seen this error before 4 days ago, and it's on multiple platforms. ) I have had to abandon it and for some reason other apps that would crash, are now running. I went to Edge on my desktops, and was reminded why I hate it with a passion. I use mostly Brave now, and a bit of Chrome, but chrome will not run in very low memory. As of today, I am removing it from all systems. All. Best of luck but I'll see you in a year or two.
• Madmallard 1y ago
  What happened to boycotting Firefox over their terms of service changes demolishing privacy?
• sureglymop 1y ago
  All I want is to pin tabs on the right, near the place where newly open tabs go. This isn't bad though.
• internet_points 1y ago
  I noticed this feature by mistake. I managed to drag a tab when I tried to switch to it and it turned blue and I got very confused and thought it must be something to do with container tabs. Then I tried dragging another one and couldn't manage to do it again. Maybe like every ten times I try dragging a tab it turns a different color. I don't understand what the difference is in my mouse movement.
• hnaccountme 1y ago
  Thank you for posting this !!!
• bArray 1y ago
  The tab groups make a great case for having more active tabs in an organised way, but I'm concerned that over the past few years I have observed Firefox become more and more resource intensive. I have an auto tab suspender extension and I'm still running out of CPU and RAM on a machine that should be able to handle it.
• pergadad 1y ago
  Great to see this feature, and it looks smooth and easy to use. I'm left wondering whether it will sync across devices and notably also to FF on Android?
• nicman23 1y ago
  firefox keeps on give after shedding a couple months ago. the shakeup from google not been able to give them money anymore seems to have done good for the project.
• Daegalus 1y ago
  Honestly, no matter what fancy UI features they add, until they add WebSerial and WebUSB, Firefox is not a replacement for anything Chromium based for me. I have a lot of devices that use all that, and I don't want to constantly deal with switching browsers or making standalone wrappers so that I can use them. But Firefox devs have a strong "we know whats good for you" mentality and refuse to add it.
• good-luck8652 1y ago
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• mr_cyborg 1y ago
  Now let me name windows.
• A_Stefan 1y ago
  Looking forward to use this!
• xedrac 1y ago
  Interesting. It might take me some time to adjust my workflow to use these new tab groups, but they at least seem like a good idea. Hopefully they work great in practice.
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• usecodenaija 1y ago
  While Firefox's tab groups are a great addition, it's intriguing to consider whether relying on traditional tab groups is keeping us from embracing more innovative solutions like BrowserGPT by CivAI. BrowserGPT not only manages tasks but does so with voice commands, offering a forward-thinking approach to browsing automation. Are we holding onto old habits at the expense of exploring groundbreaking technology?