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Kagi Assistant is now available to all users
- maelito 1y ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoUkraine is my pet war. If you’re single-issuing this, you’re fucking over the cause.
- mm263 1y agoI see this kind of off-hand rage bait comments on every Kagi post and it just grinds my gears so much. If you are going to say something inflammatory, at least elaborate or don’t leave those comments in the first place
- maelito 1y agoWhy would you interpret this as rage ? I was a Kagi customer, I was happy. But I have principles. I'm asking if the CEO did change his mind, because I haven't heard any news about this, and I still recogniez the value of Kagi despite this. I guess Europeans and US citizens differ on the handling of this subject.
- jeffhuys 1y agoRussian. GASP
- viraptor 1y agoIf the staff sees this - please stop preventing zoom. Not only is that bad for accessibility, it makes the article less useful for everyone - there's a screenshot included showing off the feature, but it's too small to read on the phone and I can't zoom in.
- scary-size 1y agoI can zoom just fine on mobile Safari.
- PKop 1y agoSo what? His complaint is easily verifiable, and valid: <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=0">
- aitchnyu 1y agoI jumped on this bandwagon long back for preventing horizontal scrollbars and other issues. Is there an updated advice for allowing zoom and being responsive?
- ericrallen 1y ago“Allowing zoom” and “being responsive” are not two states at odds with one another. Preventing zooming is a serious accessibility issue and it makes the content worse for every user. If you’re properly setting responsive widths, a large enough base font size, large enough input text size, and using border-box for box-sizing, things should just work except for cases where you’re absolutely positioning things or telling them not to word wrap and they are wider than the viewport.
- lobsterthief 1y agoThere really is no bandwagon to jump onto here—most sites don’t prevent zooming in. Many that do were just misconfigured from the start, and because some popular mobile browsers ignore `maximum-scale=1.0`, the issue isn’t normally identified. Quick tip: Make sure all of your inputs are at least 16px font size. This will prevent most mobile browsers from “automatically” zooming in when an input is focused ;) Which is a common reason people employ the maximum-scale property.
- catlikesshrimp 1y agoI can zoom in Android 14 Firefox 136.0.1 (Build #2016078447), hg-e7956a4db6c5+ GV: 136.0.1-20250310180126 AS: 136.0 ublock origin enable zoom in all websites Edit: I know this is not what you are asking for, but try opening the image in a new tab. Can you zoom in there? https://kagifeedback.org/assets/files/2025-04-17/1744906741-483590-image.png https://kagifeedback.org/assets/files/2025-04-17/1744906741-...
- blissofbeing 1y agoIt would be nice if all models where available on every plan too.
- shinryuu 1y agoSecond that. Given that they have their fair use policy it should be in their interest as well I would believe since they have a baked in margin.
- AlotOfReading 1y agoThat would eliminate the one differentiating feature on the (presumably) highest margin plan they have. Moving to a pay-as-you-go model across all their plans might be interesting, but could equally give the wrong impression to some audiences given that it's a pricing strategy usually reserved for budget brands in the consumer space and tends to scare people off.
- jjmarr 1y agoIf you try openrouter you'll see why they have to charge $25/month for the best models. Pay per use and you'll intuitively feel the price.
- Valodim 1y agoThey give more for free, and your only thought is "sure would be nice if they gave even more for free"?
- maronato 1y agoHonestly, everything should be free, and they could just make money from ads (which I’d block with my ad blocker). /s
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> would be nice if all models where available on every plan too Would be nice if I had a lay-flat intercontinental jet.
- C4stor 1y agoThe "fair use" part takes a lot of place in this article. It talks a lot about what happens if you use more tokens than what you're allowed, but curiously doesn't pip a word about what happens if you use less - for example maybe with a partial rebate on your next billing cycle ? I think "fair" should mean "fair for all parties involved", currently it's rather a "we don't want to incur any risk" policy, since I don't see how it's fair for my end of the contract. I'd rather pay for my actual usage at any other provider than pay for min(actual usage, 25$) at Kagi.
- jen729w 1y agoAs an existing happy subscriber to Kagi, this statement is illogical. I currently pay for x. Soon I’ll get x + y for the same money. That’s better.
- crossroadsguy 1y ago"As an existing happy subscriber" -- goodness! Even after years of seeing what happens after such illogical evangelism, hn never ceases to surprise you and brings the fandom out in full force. It's like with Apple. You say once "your phone switches on and off on its own - maybe something is amiss with the hw/sw" and there are dozens of replies already blaming you "you must be holding it wrong!". It's a whole new level of apologism.
- nirvdrum 1y agoI don't follow what either you or the OP are upset about. Where is the apologism and why do you think it's needed? Kagi rolled out a free feature to its existing customers without increasing the price of their plans. The limits of that plan seem quite generous, as well. The only way I can make sense of the OP's post is that the OP wants the Kagi subscription price to decrease. Perhaps that's fair, but it doesn't make any sense here because you're strictly getting more for your money. If you're paying $10/month for a subscription, yesterday you couldn't use Assistant and today you can for the same $10/month. Placing a cap on how much you can use seems quite reasonable given the service costs money to operate. If you choose not use it, you're no worse than you were yesterday... you can happily go about using the search service you were already paying for. Is the problem that the free usage isn't unlimited? Is it that not using the free service doesn't reduce the search price? Or is it that those using Assistant more than you appear to be getting more value for their money? I'm not trying to be dense, but I really don't see what's even remotely controversial about this announcement. Lately, every subscription I have is increasing the fee without giving me anything. Kagi is giving me something extra without charging me any more money. I'm sure the nefarious intention is to make their service more attractive to non-subscribers and grow their userbase, but interests can align.
- m1keil 1y agoAnyone used both Kagi assistant and perplexity and can share how was the experience?
- rubslopes 1y agoI’m a Perplexity subscriber, but I’ve decided to favor Kagi. One issue I have with Perplexity is the lack of control over the search timeframes. With Kagi, I can use my own timeframe filters, such as last 2 days, last week, and last month.
- greatgib 1y agoI don't use the Kagi assistant yet, just the kind of AI response in search results. But regarding perplexity, I'm a little bit disappointed. I started to use Perplexity like 1 or 1.5 years ago when it was really good in term of efficiency to find good results with an efficient interface, compared to chatgpt and co. But nowadays I find the assistant response to be not that good at all, with a lot of the links provided or the suggested follow up questions on the same quality as Google SEO top results or ads. Despite having the paid plan or Perplexity, most of the time I try a request there and then still go to chatgpt or mistral to ask the question again. For Kagi, when I use the in search ai response, it is mostly good directly.
- dabbz 1y agoIf you hit `a` in the search results page it'll take you to a chat interface to better grok the AI in a conversational format. Not exactly the same as perplexity still, but more ChatGPT akin. There's also a continue in assistant button at the bottom of the summary results to chat more with the query. You can also go straight to the view by visiting `/assistant` and typing your query in there. I still think preplexity has the AI search stuff down better, but getting both a "legacy style" search AND AI search, Kagi has better value to me imo.
- loehnsberg 1y agoI use both but cancelled my Perplexity subscription. Kagi is the better version of Google search, especially if you learn how to use lenses, bangs, and all these features. Kagi Assistant is great if you‘re happy with basic no-frills chat, i.e. no usable voice input, no image gen, no canvas. Perplexity is not bad, but somewhat stuck in the middle between ChatGPT/Gemini and search. They provide sources for search results which are somewhat more spot-on than what I‘ve seen elsewhere. For example it could find EV chargers with restaurants for a trip I made along a route, which ChatGPT, Gemini, Kagi Assist failed greatly). I found refining searches with Perplexity terse and it kept forgetting context once you started to reply. They have an AI generated news feed which lured me into more doom scrolling. Also, be aware that Perplexity free-tier may collect data about you, which Kagi does not. Tldr; Kagi is a superior search engine worth paying for. Perplexity seems good at queries that require context but quite expensive.
- fhd2 1y agoI wonder why the rollout is specifically over the weekend. I'd personally do something like that Monday to Wednesday rather than Friday to Sunday. It seems like the kind of thing that needs monitoring and quick reactions - can easily get expensive if something goes wrong.
- zuzulo 1y agoLower WE usage. "Let's see if it crash"
- fhd2 1y agoHm, maybe not lower per se (though I can believe that), but less critical (less likely to be work related)?
- Maxion 1y agoPossible that they see lower usage on weekends.
- lucb1e 1y agoThey're already limiting it to one country at first. If they want a slower ramp-up, they can show it to more and more users rather than working weekends. Not to rule it out but this would strike me as a strange reason
- deanc 1y agoOn the other hand a huge number of countries have the whole Easter holiday off. Plenty of time to read these articles and sign up to stuff.
- ziml77 1y agoAre they really going to need more than a couple people working the weekend to pause/rollback if something goes wrong? It's not like Assistant itself is new, just the broader access is.
- colonial 1y ago> A note on our fair-use policy > Basically our policy states that you can use AI models based on your plan’s value. Although I likely won't use Assistant, stuff like this is why I love Kagi. My relationship with them as a customer feels refreshingly transparent; I can't think of any other consumer SaaS provider that automatically answers my reflexive "how does this make money?" question. (Compare, say, Discord. It's best in class, but eternally unprofitable - which makes me wary that it might fold or go to hell at the drop of a hat.)
- weird-eye-issue 1y agoI've paid for a monthly subscription with Discord for years They also have ads in the app and they have other monetization features...
- colonial 1y agoRevenue != profit. Discord, like almost every 2010s SaaS startup, has revenue (from your Nitro) - but not nearly enough to cover expenses.
- troupo 1y ago> Revenue != profit And for over a decade most companies talk only about revenue, which is infuriating. Because most startups and tech darlings survive only by continuous infusion of unlimited investor money.
- inglor 1y agoI worked for 4 startups that were operating for years at a loss with revenue, all are profitable today and all were acquired. My current startup is also not profitable, we're burning money but we're already signing big contracts and I hope in a year or two we keep growing rather than become profitable (1B+ valuation in a year). Becoming profitable, even at this point is just a matter of deciding to stop expanding - but neither us nor our investors want this given there is so much potential for growth and more revenue streams on the line. this is ycombinator's news aggregators, I suspect you're not going to get a "don't take risks and build things" vibe - it's a startup accelerator after all :).
- xigoi 1y agoDuplicate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43723964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43723964
- greatgib 1y agoObviously I'm happy to benefit from being able to use most model "for free" in my paid non ultimate account. But I'm concerned that this will not rot the business model like that kind of thing happen for other services. I would have preferred that the full of my subscription cost goes to the core feature of developing the search engine and directly the related feature. And as of today, I pay a separate premium if I'm interested by the AI assistant. Now, with it being in all subscriptions, and knowing that anyway they can only work by paying the token price per request to all AI providers, it means less of my money going to the search index improvement, and what I'm more worried is that a forced increased of the subscription price in the coming years. Something like, as you know, our costs are high, so we need to raise the pricing to stay sustainable. Even if not the best reference, this remind me of Netflix saying look we are adding "videogames" (that no one wants) to your subscription for free, but now we will have to raise our prices, because you know, inflation and all of that ...
- bayindirh 1y agoFrom my experience, Kagi always prefer to "trickle down" features to lower tiers . First they removed search limits from some plans without increasing the price. Now they're allowing to use the AI assistant, if you want. The gist is, when you don't use the AI assistant, you still pay the base price, and that money goes to R&D, since your subscription money doesn't go to AI providers in the first place. For example, I have no interest in AI assistant, and I won't use it. As a result, my support will Kagi won't change.
- TekMol 1y ago"Privacy by default" I don't know. To me, requiring me to give them my email and then having all my searches associated with that email is the opposite of privacy to me. Yes, Google, Bing, Perplexity and Co could do fingerprinting and try fuzzy matching to cluster my searches. But at least that would be fuzzy and against the law in many places. While with Kagi, every search of mine would be clearly labeled as coming from me.
- dharmab 1y agoThere is a feature where you can search anonymously, using IETF's Privacy Pass standard: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html
- TekMol 1y agoThat looks super complicated. And hard to tell if the cryptography works as intended. Why would I go through all that hassle if I can just type my query directly in other search engines?
- dharmab 1y agoI mean, it's pretty easy to use. It's a toggle switch in the UI.
- TekMol 1y agoIf it is a switch in the UI, then that is just trusting the site. If you trust companies with what they say they do, then why not enter your query in any search engine that does not require a login? Afaik none of them say that they will try to apply fuzzy fingerprinting to cluster your searches into a profile.
- hobofan 1y agoHonest question: Is private search achievable with your worldview?
- qwertox 1y agoI was given a free month of Kagi to test, and it had so many rough edges that during the last days of of the trial I was already using Google again. Notable issues for me: - maps (from Mapbox) are really bad. Sluggish performance and lack of information - barely any info boxes - no translation feature ("gründonnerstag englisch") gives me links to leo.org (which was a cool site in the 00s) and to other sites, but Google gives me a translation box with the result - no timezone calculations: "10 am PT" in Kagi: "= 10 Pt am (metric petaton attometers)" in Google: "10:00 Freitag Pacific Time (PT) entspricht 19:00 Freitag in ..." - no search history, which is sometimes really useful to have Other than that, the search results are really good.
- bigstrat2003 1y ago> Other than that, the search results are really good. I'm confused why anything else would matter. For example, I'll readily admit that Kagi maps sucks compared to Google maps. But I just use Google for map stuff, and use Kagi for searching. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me that it's a tool which does one thing and does it well.
- qwertox 1y agoBecause all these things improve efficiency. They give you the result at one glance. With good search results I refer to those which normally take you to sites, not just quick lookups like time zone conversion or translations. For example results which point to documentation or GitHub.
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- msdz 1y agoWhile I'm aware this is a case of "you're holding it wrong" – !translate <phrase> should do the trick. And that's not an excuse for not having better detection for when an info box should exist, because they do have them, especially for, but not limited to the WolframAlpha integration stuff. (For example, a friend and fellow user was awed when searching "internet speed test" and saw it integrated, no idea if Google has that too though). Other than that, make sure your region/locale is set correctly (I'm not getting the metric petaton, for example), and for everything else, they have an excellent feedback forum for suggestions/bug reports.
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoI don't like how this was rolled out. I'm currently paying for "Unlimited Kagi Assistant" and the Kagi website STILL advertises "Unlimited Kagi Assistant". And they stealthily rolled in limits? I pay the same amount, but it's no longer unlimited, and I only know about this because I happened to notice it on HN. Otherwise I would only know after hitting a limit.
- louthy 1y agoFair-use limitations were always there. It sounds like they weren't actively enforcing it, but now they are because of some problem users. I don't think anything has changed for you unless you're one of the users this refers to: Q: Why did Kagi start enforcing the fair use policy? A: The policy was enforced due to excessive use. For instance, the top 10 users accounted for approximately 14% of the total costs, with some individuals consistently using up to 50 million tokens per week on the most advanced models. Our profit margins are already quite narrow. 95% of users should never hit any usage limits.
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoI have no idea if I will be limited or not. I can see I have about 3 million tokens used per month. But I don't know where the limits are.
- drake_112 1y agoKagi says they will charge the actual token costs of the underlying API's. They will hopefully make the actual calculation visible soon. If we make a quick back of the envelope estimation: in the outlier case if those 3 million tokens are mostly output tokens and you always used an advanced model like GPT 4.1 which costs $8 per 1 million output tokens you would be close to hitting the limit that the plan provides ($24 out of $25 worth of tokens). In pretty much most other scenario's (including a higher proportion of input vs output tokens and mixing in cheaper models) you could be a long way from hitting the limit. For example if you used half of those tokens on GPT 4.1 Mini instead of GPT 4.1 you'd only be roughly halfway to your limit ($14 out of 25$ worth of tokens).
- haroldship 1y agoHow do I get this to work? When I try to access the Assistant I just get the help page: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html
- j01 1y agoYou have to login first. For some reason instead of redirecting you to login kagi.com/assistant redirects you to the wiki rather than a login page when you're not logged in.
- jacek 1y agoIt's right there in the article: > An important note: We are enabling the Assistant for all users in phases, based on regions, starting with USA today. The full rollout for ‘Assistant for All’ is scheduled to be completed by Sunday, 23:59 UTC.
- haroldship 1y agoI missed that, thanks. I will try it on Sunday
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- gaiagraphia 1y agoIt'd be nice if you could see how much each request actually cost in relation to your plan, and to have some type of easily accessible meter. A lot of AI providers operate in black box territory when it comes to limits, which is quite annoying.
- moebrowne 1y ago> We plan to display cost and interaction details more prominently soon, potentially on the billing page or directly within the Assistant interface. I too want to see this soon. As a long time user of Ultimate it isn't uncommon for me to use 5M tokens per month and I have no idea if this will be covered by my subscription now.
- cyberpunk 1y agoHow do you know how many tokens you've used? Or is it a guesstimate?
- KoolKat23 1y agoAnd what is the cheapest model to use? Llama 70B?
- gaiagraphia 1y agoThe following should say your daily token usage: https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption
- aktenlage 1y agoSounds good. I use duckduckgo's AI assistant a lot these days, which also guarantees that the data is not used.
- mocmoc 1y agoGood idea 1 year later. Perplexity is on top of the game
- Zambyte 1y agoI paid for both for close to half a year to see which one I wanted to keep. I decided to drop Perplexity in favor of Kagi, because Perplexity felt like it was trying to position / portray itself as a supernatural-esque Source of Truth, where as Kagi does a better job at letting you use the tools how you want. Perplexity is also much less flexible than Kagi Assistant. The most customization you can do on Perplexity is answer a few questions about yourself, and hope that the info you add is injected into relevant prompts (spoiler alert: hope isn't very powerful here). With Kagi, I created a lens about a year ago to filter search results down to sources I find useful relating to GNU Guix, which I use for my machines. When Kagi Assistant rolled out (I pay for Ultimate, so I have had this a while) I made an Assistant that only pulls search results from my GNU Guix lens. The practical comparison here between Kagi and Perplexity is that I can go to Kagi and search "!guixc How do I install nginx?" (or simply ask the question in the Assistant interface; the bang will bring me there from search) and I will get back the answer I want. I added info that I use GNU Guix on my Perplexity profile, and there is not a chance that my question would have been answered within the context of GNU Guix as I wanted. Perplexity is cool, but I found Kagi to simply be more useful.
- VHRanger 1y agoThe difference is that Perplexity is subsidized by $0.5B in VC investment and are losing money. Kagi can only grow at the pace of incoming revenue.
- bwb 1y agohow do you actually get it? none of the links work and I am a paying user... just takes me to documentation.
- moebrowne 1y ago> We are enabling the Assistant for all users in phases, based on regions, starting with USA today. The full rollout for ‘Assistant for All’ is scheduled to be completed by Sunday, 23:59 UTC.
- bwb 1y agoThanks! I totally missed that, I wish they would announce when it is out rather than when it isn't :)
- lolc 1y agoI've been wanting to try and see whether I can consolidate my phind.com and my kagi.com subs by upgrading my Kagi plan. They are kinda forcing me to try now :-)
- lolc 1y agoI tried, and Kagi is better in some aspects like ease to edit questions. Haven't seen any a downside yet, and the option of creating multiple profiles seems interesting.
- shaunpud 1y agoWhy the f don't blogs have links to the actual homepage
- i_love_retros 1y agoKagi are one of my favorite companies. In a world where buying a T-shirt requires me to hand over my phone number ("in case we need to contact you about your order" - yeah, right) I find it so refreshing that kagi barely require any info from me except some form of payment.
- dewey 1y agoI had to send them my address…for my free t-shirt ;)
- dgellow 1y agoGreat t-shirt quality btw
- hulk-konen 1y agoYes
- justinrubek 1y agoAt least you got your shirt. I waited for many, many months, where I consistently checked to see if they were out. They happened to release them during a very short window of time in which I didn't go to my email; I never got to have the shirt.
- dgellow 1y agohttps://store.kagi.com/ https://store.kagi.com/
- jillyboel 1y agoThe shipping companies seem to demand it from the sender. But they never use it so just fill in a random number.
- yencabulator 1y ago
- CubsFan1060 1y agoIs there a way to disable this? We have a strict no-ai policy. Even having it available will be an issue and I may not be able to use Kagi at work.
- spondyl 1y agoAs a user myself, I'm not sure. Assistant is a separate view so it's easy to never interact with it but yeah, I can see why that might be a work policy issue. You could try requesting that as a feature in https://kagifeedback.org https://kagifeedback.org. The team are quite responsive there and historically Vlad the CEO reads every post.
- Game_Ender 1y agoCan you describe the why of the policy and if you are ok sharing the industry? I am also curious if you have other restrictions on information sharing, API usage, and what reference documentation to use.
- CubsFan1060 1y agoI unfortunately don't make the policies, or always agree with them. But, I do have to follow them.
- replwoacause 1y agoThen you shouldn’t have been using Kagi in the first place, because they’ve always had an AI summarizer feature available by appending a question mark to the query. So just like you can choose not to use that, which has always been there, you can choose not to click on Assistant and stick only to non-AI functionality.
- doublerabbit 1y agoSettings > Search > Manage search AI features Has the option to turn off Auto AI feature. It might be an good idea to post on their support forum.
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- casenmgreen 1y agoI subscribed to Kagi a month ago. It's great. I'd love for BlueSky takes a subscription model, too, so we don't have to think about advertising or sustainability or all that jazz. Also means the company's interests much more closely aligned with users interests, rather than advertisers interests.
- Night_Thastus 1y agoThat's why I moved to a paid mail service myself. I used to have a free one, but it was always lurking in the back of my mind that they'd be selling me to advertisers. (Plus, the service sucked)
- scosman 1y agoOkay - this is amazing. I’m a happy paying Kagi user. Getting to apply almost all of my payment towards for cross-platform tokens as a bonus - wow. This will replace a chatGPT and Anthropic sub for most everyday users. Their assistant is better than bringing my own keys to a client for most use cases. Just wow.
- snackernews 1y agoI agree. I’m on the $10 professional plan and honestly if I’d received an email offering this for an extra $5 per month it would have been a no brainer for me. Please Kagi, don’t take too much of a haircut or let paying for this eat into the core search budget.
- scosman 1y agoThey have usage data and I'm sure they did the math. A few users will max this, but most won't touch it or only do a few requests a month. If it bumps their conversion rate it should be worth it. I hope!
- 34679 1y agoKagi search is great, but I'm not willing to pay more than $5/mo for search and 300 searches isn't enough. I have no interest in Kagi AI. Adding more searches would've caused me to sign up again. A rate limit instead of a monthly limit would prevent the "search anxiety" that creeps in as your available searches dwindle. Make it so and you can have my money again.
- skrtks 1y agoI’m usually cautious with subscriptions and regularly review what I’m paying for. That said, Kagi at $10/month has earned its place — been using it for 20 months now and it’s been worth every cent.
- ndaiger 1y agoI also use the $5/month plan, and the few times I have exceeded the 300-search limit, Kagi simply renews my monthly plan early. For me it's just happened a few times towards the end of the month and I was happy with how they handled the situation.
- ksec 1y agoThat is actually a really nice model. Effectively it is 300 Search for $5 valid for one month. And instantly renew if you exceed $5. May be Kagi could also consider rolling over unused search for one month. So if you only did 200 searches, the remaining 100 will roll over to next month so you have 400 searches.
- fiatjaf 1y agoFor most very simple use cases -- like, I don't know, if you want to know how to sort a list in Kotlin -- just using the Kagi in-search assistant is more than enough, you can search with: "sort list kotlin, code example?" (with the question mark) and you'll get brief explanations with code examples based on search results (or whatever. I don't know, it works). The model they're using for these must not be a very good one, but for most things it's enough, and very fast.
- diggan 1y agoI'm not sure how to access this, both the link in the top right inside Kagi and from "The direct link to the Assistant" (https://kagi.com/assistant https://kagi.com/assistant) from the docs, just lead me back to the same docs page. Anyone know what's going on and seeing the same issue? I'm on the "Professional" if that matters.
- moelf 1y agothey're doing a rolling out, so try again later.
- seth_at_kagi 1y agoHey - We're doing a phased rollout over the next few days. Currently we've rolled out to all US regions - and we plan to enable more very soon! (as soon as today - if everything seems right!) We'll also be sending out a toast message to everyone once it's globally rolled out.
- lawn 1y agoI love Kagi and it's easily worth the money. I even use an Ultimate plan to try out the different models but I use it so rarely that it's probably better to downgrade. I wonder, what's the upside for the Ultimate plan now? Just better models?
- g42gregory 1y agoHow is the different from 3.7 sonnet connected to the web search? Or Gemini 2.5 with search capabilities? Am I to rely on Kagi being better and capable of continuing to be better than frontier models at search?
- hairofadog 1y agoIt's a front end for all of those models. I haven't signed up for it but I'm considering it as I pay for both Kagi and Claude for a total of $35/month, whereas this would be $25 if I understand correctly. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/aboxwithrocksinit/test-bucket/refs/heads/main/kagi-assistant.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/aboxwithrocksinit/test-buc...
- freediver 1y agoDifference #1 - Flexibility - in Kagi you choose any model you want to work with, not just models from one company Difference #2 - Quality - Kagi Assistant uses Kagi Search. Ultimately, model quality will converge to the same place, quality of search results will remain a major difference. Difference #3 - Privacy - Using models through Kagi is more privacy respecting due to non-training for API calls.
- rglover 1y agoThis is a great deal. Switching to Kagi was like getting OG Google search back. I'm also blown away by how good it is. I used DDG but was never really happy (always had to go back to Google for certain things). Love that for $25/mo, you can get access to GPT 4o, Sonnet, and other models along with high-quality search.