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DHL suspends B2C shipments over 800 USD until further notice
- gbin 1y agoI cannot imagine the scale of the economical damage of all this...
- ac29 1y agoIt doesnt apply to businesses. And, consumers importing amounts over $800 is probably fairly unusual.
- teeray 1y ago> consumers importing amounts over $800 is probably fairly unusual Likely not—I have a Macbook Pro on order from the Apple Store, shipped via DHL with origin from Shanghai, and currently jammed up in Cleveland.
- Grosvenor 1y agoIs it unusual to buy a laptop, stereo equipment, or things for pretty much every hobby from abroad? Can you buy a bike for less than $800? A camera (Say from Japan perhaps)? A good fountain pen from Japan, Germany or Italy?
- bdcravens 1y agoProbably why the US lowered the de minimis exemption.
- Keyframe 1y agoIt literally says in the notice that threshold value lowered from $2,500 to $800 caused a surge in volume of clearance processing which is why they're suspending it. They can't keep up with the volume.
- Aurornis 1y ago> And, consumers importing amounts over $800 is probably fairly unusual. Not true. It’s common to receive phones and laptops shipped internationally from Apple, for example. I don’t understand why some people are searching for ways to dismiss and downplay this in these comments. DHL is doing this because the volume of processing was excessively high now that the thresholds are lower. That means a lot of packages were meeting this criteria.
- Freedom2 1y ago> I don’t understand why some people are searching for ways to dismiss and downplay this in these comments. "I don't do it, therefore it is unusual for it to happen in the first place." It's very hard to take dismissive, flatly stated comments like GP's in good faith. I usually expect better from this site, but a lot has changed in the last few years.
- terribleperson 1y agoThat's basically every Prusa sale unless you're buying from Printed Solid.
- bdcravens 1y agoWouldn't most US shipments be coming from Printed Solid? That's Prusa's US distributor.
- terribleperson 1y agoMost people don't order from Printed Solid, because they've historically been more expensive than just importing a Prusa. I imagine that will change now.
- bdcravens 1y agoThat's odd. Prusa owns Printed Solid.
- pmags 1y agoMany electronic music gear purchases from small companies outside the US exceed that threshold. This is certainly going to hit the small producers in the synth and electronic music industry.
- trhway 1y agoIn the StarTrek style future you could get anything you need for free. We're just exiting the era where we were having anything we wanted for $9.99 or whatever low silly price the people in Guangdong and Dongguan were ready to accept. Is there a difference between the free and low silly price? Yes, the low silly price still makes you not-that-wasteful like the free could. Anyway, it is the end of an era. And it wasn't just era of cheapness, it was also an era of variety, as many trinkets which were economical to produce for the whole world wouldn't be economical to produce in/for the walled tariff gardens.
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- evbogue 1y agoThis comment is silly and not a great critique of Star Trek economics. To hack Star Trek imagine the replicator system as a transport pad and then think about who controls the transporters. Next, imagine the phaser system as a transporter pad. Now you have a critique.
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- ummonk 1y agoI’m guessing a lot of customers are being tardy in paying tariffs, leaving DHL to deal with packages that won’t clear customs. Probably a much bigger issue for B2C shipments than B2B shipments.
- wffurr 1y agoNothing to do with tariffs, which is clear in the first paragraph: Effective April 5, 2025, all shipments to the U.S. with a declared customs value over USD 800 require formal entry processing - down from the previous USD 2,500 threshold due to new U.S. Customs regulations.
- throwaway36834 1y ago$800 is the threshold for different tariff rules, so yes it is absolutely related. Those would previously have fallen under de minimis rules, but as of May 2 these are rescinded. > All postal items containing goods described in section 2(a) of Executive Order 14195 and sent to the United States through the international postal network from the PRC or Hong Kong and transported by carriers that are valued at or under 800 dollars and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption authorized in 19 U.S.C. 1321(a)(2)(C) shall be subject to the duties described in subsection (c) of this section. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/07/2025-06027/further-amendment-to-duties-addressing-the-synthetic-opioid-supply-chain-in-the-peoples-republic-of https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/07/2025-06...
- colingauvin 1y agoYou're almost correct but in this case they are suspending shipments for over $800, not under. This doesn't appear to be caused by any changes to the de minimis rules, but rather the rules for the tier after de minimis And what an odd comment to use a throwaway for...
- LoganDark 1y ago> And what an odd comment to use a throwaway for... Certain people seem to use throwaways for every comment or spree of comments.
- master_crab 1y agoWouldn’t be surprised if UPS and FedEx follow suit. The frequently shifting tariff silliness is forcing companies to sit things out.
- AStonesThrow 1y agoI mean, how often is it really necessary for an ordinary consumer to directly import stuff? The last time I imported from an overseas order, I was enthralled by a hot blonde Irish singer and buying all her CDs, but most of them were also on eBay from American sellers who already did the messy work of importing goods.
- Aurornis 1y agoMany companies ship directly from their factories in Mexico or Canada. Many consumers order parts internationally for hobbies or even professional products. Just because you don’t do it doesn’t mean it’s going to negatively impact a lot of people.
- tempest_ 1y agoMany people do not even know where their order originates.
- terribleperson 1y agoIf you want a consumer 3d printer and you don't want to buy a Chinese printer like Creality or Bambu, you're probably importing a Prusa.
- phil21 1y agoPretty often for savvy consumers of certain product groups. It all comes from China anyways, so if you know what you're doing you can easily save 50% or more buying direct from the source vs. a reseller on Amazon. Even better if you were participating in group buys of certain items. Cutting out the middleman is a good thing for consumers which is going away.
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- rietta 1y agoHow does a home-based business demonstrate their business bona fides here? Having a business account with DHL? Having a business name?
- TechDebtDevin 1y agoYou can get an Biz entity(and anyone who shoukd have one likely already does or has been meaning to) for < $50.00 and you can bet your ass that number will be coming down as the economy falls apart. During the covid crisis I could register LLCs in Colorado for $1.00 with a yearly renewal fee.
- throw310822 1y ago"there are 50 million new startups! The economy is doing great, we made American great again!" /s
- cantrecallmypwd 1y agoDUNS number and/or EIN.
- syntaxing 1y agoSo...you can't buy anything over $800 to the US now from other countries?
- rietta 1y agoYou have to satisfy the business requirement, which may be pretty easy to do. I am not sure. Just indicate it's for your side hustle business.
- teeray 1y agoLooks like a d/b/a will be the hot Christmas gift this year.
- cantrecallmypwd 1y agoIt only costs about $300 to register a Delaware LLC.
- pests 1y agoYearly maintenance costs and some states require you to also file as a foreign corporation doing business in the state.
- cantrecallmypwd 1y agoYep. YMMV. DE is the most corporate-friendly state, but usually requires 2 state tax headaches. For a very small concern, it might be more costly than registering in another or one's home state.
- jmathai 1y ago$99 to register an LLC in Ohio and it takes about 15 minutes online through their website. Free to get a federal EIN.
- xtiansimon 1y agoIIRC - Once you file for an EIN then you also have to file state sales tax returns, even if sales are $0.
- malcolmgreaves 1y agoIt’s a bad era to do business in the US :(
- ndsipa_pomu 1y agoIt's a bad era to do business with the US :(
- zombiwoof 1y agoThe maga destruction continues
- cantrecallmypwd 1y agoThe footgunning unravels the US economy in myriad ways with unintended consequences. Brain drain, tourism, and higher prices with stagflation are just the beginning. It will take a few months to a year, but I think the disillusionment will slowly sow the field for competency and compassion.
- Arainach 1y ago>I think the disillusionment will slowly sow the field for competency and compassion. What do you mean by this, and why do you consider it plausible? The mass media and way too many people continue to say "surely the Trump administration will see reason and admit failure" when they have NEVER ONCE done that in the last 9 years.
- gip 1y agoAnd very soon that will apply to packages with values below $800 as the de minimis exemption is being phased out I reckon. Not exactly business-friendly, the government should be able to handle the load before enacting these rules at least.
- teeray 1y ago> the government should be able to handle the load before enacting these rules at least. No, no… that’s the point. We often think of costs in monetary values only. Costs are two-dimensional: money and time to acquire the good. This is a tariff on time.
- kylehotchkiss 1y agoDHL for consumer mail in USA is a minor player compared to USPS, FedEx, and USPS. IIRC, they don’t even own the planes they fly here, just charter them. Those are the ones to watch for shipment suspensions.
- hsbauauvhabzb 1y agoPlease as ‘shipments to the US’ in the title. DHL operates globally and the title is misleading.
- londons_explore 1y agoReading between the lines, it's pretty clear they're telling everyone to declare values as $799.
- tpm 1y agothat exemption will expire in 2 weeks
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- anamax 1y agoA couple of months ago, I saw something about Temu paying the tariffs for all of their shipments to the US in bulk but still shipping them individually. The basic idea was that they'd figure out the tariff on everything they shipped during a time period as if it was done in one shipment, pay that, and then do individual shipments. I suspect that something like this will happen. Of course, there will be auditing to ensure that companies don't pay tariffs on $10M worth of goods when the actual total is $100M, but that's doable.
- flyflewflaw 1y agoAustralian businesses collect a value added tax (called GST) on almost all sales (some exempt goods). The same tax is payable on sales in Australia and imports. For big intl retailers the effect is as you describe, they collect and remit the tax, then their shipments are considered tax paid when imported otherwise they would be held at customs. It probably wouldn't be that hard to audit just with data from the major payment processors.
- h05sz487b 1y agoBye bye USA. Was nice trading with you.
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