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So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.
by chris_wot 2y ago
So much for the wunderkinds in DOGE.
- sitkack 2y ago@bigballs, please save U.S.
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- drivingmenuts 2y agoGiven that the Kids at DOGE are all computer experts, this reeks of a calculated move.
- consp 2y agoI think expert is not the right word for what looks like mostly rookies.
- krferriter 2y agoAbsolutely not. They are not broadly experts, and they are not making these decisions after careful consideration, as evidenced by their continual acts of stupidity and basic errors and cutting things despite having no idea what it is they are cutting. Musk got in an argument with someone who said DOGE cut funding for a cancer treatment program, and Musk was calling the person a liar, and the person provided evidence and Musk admitted it was an accident. They are a clown car of idiots who vastly overestimate their own knowledge and underestimate how much good the government actually does. They think they can just slash and burn and there will be no negative consequences because they think the government is worthless.
- chris_wot 2y agoUntil, like Ayn Rand, they actually need the government. Then they'll be complaining how the government doesn't provide services.
- riffraff 2y agoMy knowledge of Ayn Rand stops at having read a book (and considered it silly), when did she need the government and complained about it?
- chris_wot 2y agoShe was an Objectivist. She considered social security to be "legalized plunder". Then when she needed it, she decided to take it. One of her wonderful worldviews was to rejects altruism as a moral imperative, arguing that individuals should live for their own rational self-interest. Social security, based on the idea of supporting others, contradicts this principle.
- Nevermark 2y agoIt takes strong and complex social glue to create a place where millions can safely follow their own self-interest. Which means anyone whose wisdom matches their self-interest is going to understand that different things have very different efficiencies at different scales. And some things happen to be dramatically more efficient/person and more effective, the larger the scale they can be coordinated at.
- InsideOutSanta 2y ago>It takes strong and complex social glue to create a place where millions can safely follow their own self-interest. This exactly. All of these people who profess to believe in objectivism could easily move to a failed state and do anything they want to with zero government intervention. But they don't do that. They want all of the benefits of a working government with none of the things required to actually create a working government.
- cratermoon 2y agoSide note: if they wait a little bit, they may end up not needing to move anywhere after all.
- drivingmenuts 2y agoSorry, I really should have said "experts" with the rabbit ears. But it still reeks.
- chris_wot 2y agoThey've done their degrees and masters in Computer Science, and many of them dropped out. But they focused on AI, so I'm assuming this makes them great at statistics, but does this mean they are great at security? Given the way they've gone through a variety of departments, I'd say they aren't. The DOGE crew are incompetent. Witness their firing of all the people who look after the nuclear stockpile and Ebola research.
- yowzadave 2y agoThey are clueless kids at their first job, following the orders of their hero. You think they’ll resist when the boss tells them, “cut everything”?
- shakna 2y agoNo. [0] I wouldn't say they are computer experts. [1][2] [0] https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-... [1] https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355895/doge-musk-nlrb-takeaways-security https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355895/doge-musk-nlrb-... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-14/doge-staffer-broke-treasury-rules-in-transmitting-personal-data https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-14/doge-staf...
- RALaBarge 2y agoHang out around here for a while and you will realize quickly that us tech bros mostly just know tech stuff. Our perceived intelligence in topics which we don't spend our time on is called hubris and we are swimming in it at all times.
- ForOldHack 2y agoSoon to be powned, by their own extreme short sightedness. Duh.
- nwatson 2y agoMaybe "they" want to do the pwning with less coordinated resistance. Doing away with CVEs would help with that objective.
- jeltz 2y agoNo, they are not skilled enough to hack anything. These are just a bunch of average junior engineers with hubris.
- pohuing 2y agoSoon to be? They already failed to deploy a website safely by exposing the db. https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...
- tw04 2y agoI think you mean wonder kids.
- riffraff 2y agowunderkind is a loanword, it's one of those cases of a German word being used but being odd in English since it's so similar. Like kindergarten which is often speller as "garden". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderkind_(disambiguation) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderkind_(disambiguation)
- markhahn 2y ago"tariff as wunderwaffe" often comes to mind these days.
- oezi 2y agoMany of these terms originate during the Nazi regime and thus aren't used lightly in Germany anymore. Other example includes: Endgegner (final boss) or Endlösung (final solution) I would suggest to avoid such terms.
- ben_w 2y ago> Endgegner I did not know about this, thanks for die Vorwarnung. In context, I'd assume "ultimate enemy" (Gegner=opponent) as "final boss" sounds videogame.
- consp 2y agoMany did in the golden age of German research, then to be destroyed by those mentioned. Either the philosophers or the mathematicians/physicists likely coined them.
- oezi 2y agoCertainly, so we have to critically look at the terms and check which have been used by the Nazis to promote their ideology. It is a call to make in each case.
- addandsubtract 2y agoThey were able to eliminate all open CVE's while cutting costs at the same time. Amazing!