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> you think they won't use it for other kinds of dissent? Why, isn't using it for this kind of dissent already enough? There's no freedom of speech anymore in
by throw310822 2y ago
> you think they won't use it for other kinds of dissent?
Why, isn't using it for this kind of dissent already enough? There's no freedom of speech anymore in the US if you go against the interests of Israel.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Why, isn't using it for this kind of dissent already enough? We don’t know if he materially supported Hamas. At that point it’s no longer just a speech issue. We will eventually know the government is full of bunk. But that takes time. In the meantime, I think all we can do is note who is jumping to conclusions with incomplete information and who is prescient about objective facts (not forecasts).
- aaomidi 2y ago> We don’t know if he materially supported Hamas. At that point it’s no longer just a speech issue. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Very relevant in a court of law. Not really so in public opinion. I’m not saying we can conclude he deserves any of this, nor that it’s legal. I’m just saying we can’t conclude what happened was illegal without knowing the charges and evidence.
- Aeolun 2y agoI don’t understand this btw. What does the US gain from supporting Israel? Is it just buying cheap votes with public money?
- g-b-r 2y agoAIPAC, Christian zionism, misconceptions and lack of knowledge about Israel, and very strong Israeli lobbying in general