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State Department Will Use AI to Search for 'Pro-Hamas' Students to Deport
- gotoeleven 2y agoI hope Hamas starts a university in gaza because there's about to become available many intellects of the highest caliber. This is their chance to usher in a new renaissance.
- rascul 2y agoGaza has a university since 1978
- biophysboy 2y agoDon’t worry everyone, I am sure the human who labels the training humans will be very judicious.
- rzzzwilson 2y agoWhat could possibly go wrong? There's precedent of software systems messing up and authorities ignoring problems because "the computer said so". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal
- shakna 2y agoAustralia did their part, too [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme [1] Mentioning it because I'm still pissed about it.
- wombat37 2y agoYou're a scammer anyway, published author, techie, on centrelink? You are a grub mate!
- shakna 2y agoYeah, I'm terrible. Totally my fault that my immune system is eating my nerves, causing widespread damage that will do everything except kill me. I should have chosen not to be born. I should just give up and end it all, instead of contributing to the world.
- wombat37 2y ago[flagged]
- shakna 2y agoSo... Highly disabled person, is a scammer, for using disability support? I'm verified to safely be able to work 4 hours a week. Any more is permanent damage. Which puts me in the "most disabled" category that Centrelink has. Do you just want us all to turn around and die, mate? Like the victims of Robodebt?
- wahnfrieden 2y agoYes, that's what they want - or to cage you. They also want homeless people to perish and believe they deserve it for their sins against society. That's the logic
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- tombert 2y agoThis can't be legal can it? Wouldn't freedom of speech apply even to non-citizens? Freedom of speech would suggest that I could be pro-Hamas if I wanted to be. Is this administration really going back to fucking McCarthyism?
- freeone3000 2y agoIt’d be the twentieth illegal thing this week. So what? What’s anybody gonna do about it?
- woodruffw 2y agoI find this administration hateful, but the 1A argument doesn’t quite work: the first amendment doesn’t impart special entitlements on visa holders. I think a better argument here is to observe that the use of “AI” here is entirely pretextual, as is the connection to the Israel-Palestine conflict. This is purely an action within the existing xenophobic policies of the administration, dressed up against current topics to make that less obvious. The goal is to deport people full stop; these are just “easy” cases to make, and they’re hoping that the next round of people to be deported keep cheering until it’s their turn.
- sitkack 2y agoThe constitution doesn’t give rights, it puts controls on the behavior of the government. The constitution calls out citizens where necessary. Your statement about special rights for Visa holders is a nonsequitur
- ty6853 2y agoBut are tourists and foreign students people? This is a real question, as current interpretation appears they are not.
- woodruffw 2y ago> The constitution doesn’t give rights, it puts controls on the behavior of the government. The constitution calls out citizens where necessary. I don't think this is relevant (or even correct, but that doesn't matter). 1A is simply not a right (or "control on the behavior of the government") that applies here: visas are issued at the discretion of the State Department. Or more simply: I don't think a visa holder could successfully argue that the State Department is obligated to renew their visa solely on 1A grounds. If this isn't the case, then an argument against revoking would fail similarly.
- jrm4 2y ago"State Department Will Use AI as an excuse to..."
- wombat37 2y agofix the mcdonalds soft serve machines
- boredpeter 2y ago[dead]
- hmmokidk 2y agoNetanyahu was pro hamas. He propped em up. Go after him
- tantalor 2y agoLiterally control of speech and assembly
- ty6853 2y agoThis reminds me of the time DHS/CBP detained me and jailed me in immigration many times for having gone to Syria, and fought for a militia. Except the hiccup is the militia was a US ally, fighting against the terrorists, and well US high level people also went there to help so they can't go claiming they're terrorists because then they'd be incriminating themselves. The machine is so bone headed they usually don't even know what the thing they're flagging for actually is. AI will be that on steroids.
- pottertheotter 2y agoWait, what? You said that like it was so casual. I need to know so much more about this story of yours.
- SanjayMehta 2y agoWhich militia?
- ty6853 2y agoYPG
- cryptbro 2y agoIs there any hope for America without a revolution?
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- JumpCrisscross 2y agoOriginal source: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/06/state-department-ai-revoke-foreign-student-visas-hamas https://www.axios.com/2025/03/06/state-department-ai-revoke-... “Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter.” https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- wahnfrieden 2y ago[flagged]
- jmward01 2y agoWhy is this a flagged article?
- Chinjut 2y agoIt implicitly paints the administration, and thus Elon Musk, and thus Silicon Valley bigwigs, in a bad light. Very many of the users of this site will flag anything which does so, under the guise of politics being not of interest to hackers, even as many other users of this site express interest in such conversations. (Even for me to honestly mention this phenomenon is technically against the rules, though.)
- rascul 2y agoHow do you know why anyone (except yourself) flags stuff?
- tavavex 2y agoI'm not the same person as above, but I feel the same sentiment. There's no hard data, but the pattern of behavior is far too consistent for me to write it off. Plenty of political articles that make it through, but specifically the ones that paint the current US admin as being wrong (even implicitly, by covering their more extreme actions) seem to often accrue a lot of points, shoot up to the front page, and then get flagged - while lots of other political stuff passes through. It also just lines up with what I observed in HN users before that - the average user seems to be far more likely to be a richer, older, American conservative than any random user on the English internet or even other tech spaces.
- wahnfrieden 2y agoYou must use the "vouch" feature if you disagree with flaggers
- relaxing 2y agoAt what level do you gain article vouch privileges?
- wombat37 2y agoWelcome to OUR country. If you see your neighbour destroy their home, would you invite them to live with you? Fit in or F-off !
- AlecSchueler 2y agoThe Land of The Fr--Fitting In.
- wombat37 2y agocheck out the world cup in qatar, fit in or f-off!
- AlecSchueler 2y agoYou want Qatar to be your role model?
- siltcakes 2y agoThis is the US, not Israel. Attacking freedom of speech is hardly "fitting in".
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoPreviously on source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43285384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43285384
- CaffeineLD50 2y agoThe headline should read "State Department will use AI as an excuse for using Israeli intelligence to identify anti-Israel students to deport." The goal is to silence any criticism of Israel within the United States. Let's not talk about genocide m'kay?
- BrawnyBadger53 2y agoWhen Pro-Hamas is often being used to mean critical of Israeli policy. I find this quite concerning. Unfortunately since the two state solution is relatively pro Palestine and equating Palestine with Hamas is so common we'll just call people who want peace terrorist sympathizers I guess.