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Having lived next to a semi-main street through a smallish California coastal city without much rain it is pretty eye opening how much black dirt and junk just
by iterateoften 2y ago
Having lived next to a semi-main street through a smallish California coastal city without much rain it is pretty eye opening how much black dirt and junk just coat everything next to the road.
Walk down the street and touch a bush or any plant leaf and get a nice black hand in the process. The plants are covered, parked cars get covered and the inside of my apartment was covered.
It wasn’t until I moved out that I saw the extent of the problem. I only lived there a few years but every surface of my apartment had a coating of the same black dust. I’m now very worried my short time there considerably affected my health.
- bobsmooth 2y agoI live on the second floor near a road and my balcony furniture is always covered in black gunk.
- caycep 2y agoThere was that whole study with some additive in tire compounds, killing whole rivers of salmon until they figured out what it was
- Scoundreller 2y agoEVs can be pretty bad for tire wear, not just due to vehicle weight, but the amount of torque available (and consistently available) that leaves most ICE vehicles in the dust. Depends on driving style of course
- aaron_m04 2y agoIf you have an EV and you care about health and the environment, use regenerative braking as much as humanly possible. Hint: driving fast or tailgating both increase the odds you'll have to use the friction brakes.
- michaelbuckbee 2y agoI like how much the EV interfaces gamify using the regenerative braking to encourage its use: regen indicators, miles per kw per trip, etc.
- dehrmann 2y agoI always assumed EVs use regenerative braking as much as possible on their own.
- superjan 2y agoThey do. But if you brake too agressively, they switch to friction brakes. It pays off to avoid this: more mileage, marginally lower charging expense, lower cost on brake maintenance and fewer complaints from passengers.
- lightedman 2y ago"It pays off to avoid this: more mileage, marginally lower charging expense, lower cost on brake maintenance and fewer complaints from passengers." Regen braking wears the hell out of your battery. That few hundred you saved on brake changes just cost you a tens of thousands of dollars on a premature battery replacement.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoSource for your ridiculous claim?
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoI'm not sure why they think regenerative breaking is worse than any other charging modality.
- lightedman 2y agoIt's an added charge cycle on the battery. A guy in San Diego does full EIS and more for EV cells. His data shows multiple shorter recharge cycles wear the battery down faster, no matter what range you try restricting the recharging to. Same data shows that the batteries are better when conditioned harder on their first charge, gaining much better cycle performance and count, at a minimal sacrifice of capacity. And this exact same thing coincides DIRECTLY with my lithium-powered portable lighting, so I'm pretty up-to-date on very top-level research, because I hire this same person. His name is Luke. You'll see him all over the globe doing lithium EV research and testing.
- jiggawatts 2y agoSounds like emission standards need to be updated to include everything coming off a vehicle, not just out of the tail pipe. It would incentivise clean disk materials and regenerative braking.
- datavirtue 2y agoEmissions standards have been deleted. Finally. I'm convinced they were going to greatly increase the environmental issues. After having improved emissions for decades they had no where else to improve and started building really complex engines with extreme maintenance requirements and very low reliability compared to the late 1990s. Modern trucks are throw aways compared to mid-1990s Ford and late 1990s GM. Nissan went out of business and Toyota isn't much of a player for towing capacity and value. Stellantis products have been a joke for years except for maybe the Charger and Wrangler for a time. Lots of high dollar junk being foisted on consumers right now.
- jiggawatts 2y agoI don't quite understand... you're saying it's a good thing if car manufacturers are allowed to pollute as much as they want in a race to the bottom? You prefer reliability in your vehicles over your children's health? Could you clarify your position a bit?
- malfist 2y agoAre you sure the blame is with the EPA and not the desire for ever increasing profit margins? Seems cheaping out on quality parts is more likely to be the root of the issue than emissions standards.
- GrzegorzWidla 2y agoEURO 7 does include limits on breaks and tyre pollution.
- 93po 2y agodo you have an air filter with an ionizer by chance? those will also do that
- rbalicki 2y agoair filters will produce black gunk?
- winrid 2y agoIonizers can attract particles, but I would argue not to that extent...
- HPsquared 2y agoIonizers make small particles plate-out on surfaces instead of floating in the air. It makes the air itself cleaner to breathe etc, but I suppose it could make surfaces dirtier than they otherwise would be with these especially fine particles. Usually an air purifier with ionizer will have the ionization at the filter outlet, so only the very smallest particles are affected by this process.
- im3w1l 2y agoBut if the ionizer can make particles stick to surfaces, wouldn't that mean it can also make them stick to the lungs? Because, in that case it's not so clear it's a win is it?
- 93po 2y agothe particles stick via static electricity, which doesn't work well on wet surfaces like your lungs. the bigger issue is that ionizers can mix with VOCs from cleaning products and generate ozone and formaldehyde as byproducts - i suspect this combination made me really sick at one point because im allergic to formaldehyde
- xolox 2y agoThe particles affected by the ionizer are already floating in the air that is being inhaled into the lungs. For the sake of this discussion (i.e. disregarding accidental generation of ozone), wouldn't it be better if those particles are taken out of the air, stuck to surfaces, so they're no longer being inhaled?
- BizarreByte 2y ago> Having lived next to a semi-main street through a smallish California coastal city without much rain it is pretty eye opening how much black dirt and junk just coat everything next to the road. One day I made the mistake of leaning against the wall in a TTC subway station while in a white shirt. I didn't realize how much oil, brake dust, and other mechanical grime there was until that moment. I had to go home and change.
- late2part 2y ago"boot the grime of this world in the crotch, dear!"
- MichaelZuo 2y agoI think some research group did measurements of the AQI in the TTC stations and found the average air quality in the winter was actually comparable with the smog in LA or Beijing.
- Scoundreller 2y agoand people still look at me funny when I wear a mask in there I wonder what platform doors will do: the stations depend on piston effect for ventilation, but walling off the tube from the station might keep it more in the tube?
- MichaelZuo 2y agoWell I imagine if they’re willing to spend the huge amounts to install platform doors they would be willing to install larger ventilation fans too.
- a_t48 2y agoMy parking spot is underneath both BART and 880. My poor car gets coated in dust.
- ge96 2y agoSome people are opportunists... you'd see Cody out there sweeping the street for some paladium
- Symbiote 2y agoI once lived in a building between a very busy railway line (mixture of electric and diesel trains, passengers and freight) and an average road (cars and one bus route). The windows facing the railway would get coated in a black grit. Slightly oily particles, just sticky enough to stick to the glass. The windows facing the road would get coated in a dark brown slime. According to the air quality maps of the city, the road is slightly more polluting than the railway, although the railway is carrying 100,000 passengers a day.
- voidfunc 2y agoI used to live on a major three lane one direction artery in the city and was right at the intersection so cars constantly braking and idling. So much black dust on everything. I used to joke someday I was going to be diagnosed with terminal lung cancer and the Doctor would ask me how many packs a day I smoked and I'd tell him none and he wouldn't believe me.
- BossingAround 2y agoWouldn't this be very well mitigated by the use of an air purifier?
- stuaxo 2y agoOr MVHR in the home for a more permanent fix.