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I really wish Apple and Google would run VPNs. Then, given their markets are so large, they couldn't be blocked by anyone that wanted customers/eyeballs. You'd
by gamedever 2y ago
I really wish Apple and Google would run VPNs. Then, given their markets are so large, they couldn't be blocked by anyone that wanted customers/eyeballs.
You'd think "Privacy First" Apple would do this.
HN blocks (ghost blocks) VPNs. Make a new account from a VPN. Post. Open a private/incognito window. Load up the thread. Your comment won't appear. Give it few days. It never appears. It only appears for you when you're logged in.
- skibble 2y agoThey do, sort of; iCloud Private Relay. Details: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102602 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102602
- puppycodes 2y agoLike a VPN except tied to your location, financials, cloud storage and devices! Great!
- cchance 2y agoYa its less for anonymity and more to prevent unsecure sites and wifi from leaking credentials
- tacomagick 2y agoI don't see how this could prevent unsafe sites leaking credentials (Assuming unsecure == No TLS) as unencrypted data will be sent through the exit node to the web server. It does however help for wifi snooping.
- cchance 2y agoi sort of meant it as a combination, unsecure sites on rogue wifi
- aucisson_masque 2y agoYeah but apple gave in to Chinese government and all their server in China are under monitoring of the CCP, the party have keys to decrypt every bit of data that goes through them, Chinese icloud private relay included. That's like when apple still refuses after years to fix the airdrop protocol so that Chinese police forces can't find anymore who sent what file to who. Since 2022, Chinese police forces openly brag about the fact they can retrieve the identity of people who spread unallowed propaganda through airdrop in crowded area. Good guy apple for pretending to do the right stuff but no one should rely on them.
- nyclounge 2y ago>HN blocks (ghost blocks) VPNs. Make a new account from a VPN. Post. Open a private/incognito window. Load up the thread. Your comment won't appear. Give it few days. It never appears. It only appears for you when you're logged in. Wow is that true?
- yuumei 2y agoAs a test: I am always on a vpn
- tacomagick 2y agoHere I am also.
- gamedever 2y agoyou have gained a rep enough to not be ghost banned somehow. the ghost banning makes it hard to make a temp account to whistle blow. And, even if you weren't whistle blowing bit making legit comment, it won't appear until you pass that threshold of not being shadowbanned, at which point your comment is worthless since it's days or weeks later
- scrlk 2y agoI have showdead enabled in my profile and I sometimes see new users that are shadowbanned (i.e. their posts/comments are automatically "dead"). If it's not spam or low quality, I'll vouch for them.
- jimt1234 2y agoThis is the last thing I would want. Hypothetical, but not totally unlikely scenario: I live in Florida. I use a Google VPN service to access Pornhub. The Florida AG decides to subpoena Google to see who's been using a VPN to watch porn. Of course Google bends over and provides the data. The AG finds that I've been looking at porn, so now I'm a criminal. Google suspends my account(s) because I've violated their TOS (criminal activity). I just lost access to GMail and I'm never gonna get it back because that's how Google rolls. In this scenario, if I had used an independent VPN service (not Google or Apple), perhaps, my VPN service would've been cancelled, but that's it.
- lenova 2y agoIronically, Google _does_ run a VPN, which of course they announced last year that they are shutting down: https://9to5google.com/2024/04/11/google-one-vpn-discontinued/ https://9to5google.com/2024/04/11/google-one-vpn-discontinue...
- amelius 2y agoWe might as well reinvent the internet, and let each internet node anonymize IP addresses.