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Let's Quit X
- jsheard 2y agoAnecdotal, but so many people in my circles have jumped ship to Bluesky that the transition is pretty seamless at this point. It feels more like Twitter than what became of Twitter does.
- brighteyes 2y agoIt definitely does. And even better in some ways like no ads and fewer trolls.
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- ToucanLoucan 2y agoI second your anecdote. I ran both for a good amount of time but the last time I went to X, I opened it on my phone, waiting for a coffee, and got 3 posts about idiotic culture war nonsense chased with an ad for a crypto scam, and I genuinely aloud said, "what the fuck am I still on this for" and deleted it. Haven't missed it once since.
- timmg 2y agoCurious: what happens when Bluesky has all the same people/posts as Twitter? Will it be any better? Or will it just be the same thing on a new website?
- consumer451 2y agoThis launched today, trying to address your valid concerns: > Bluesky is an opportunity to shake up the status quo. They have built scaffolding for a new kind of social web. One where we all have more say, choice and control.But it will take independent funding and governance to turn Bluesky’s underlying tech—the AT Protocol—into something more powerful than a single app. We want to create an entire ecosystem of interconnected apps and different companies that have people’s interests at heart. [0] > FreeOurFeeds aims to build a new social media ecosystem on top of the AT Protocol, an open, decentralized framework designed to enable interoperable social media platforms, giving users greater control over their data, algorithms, and online experience (it’s what Bluesky runs on). They want to leverage this tech to create a social media ecosystem focused on individual control, creativity, community well-being, and free expression. > They basically want to build Bluesky out from one company into a whole ecosystem of different apps and companies by making a non profit foundation that opens up its underlying technology so anybody can build on it. [1] That last part is not very accurate. Anybody can build on it now. Their goal is to make a second AT Proto Relay [2] that is not under the control of Bluesky. [0] https://freeourfeeds.com/ https://freeourfeeds.com/ [1] https://www.usermag.co/p/freeourfeeds-a-30m-plan-to-take-back-social-media-from-billionaires https://www.usermag.co/p/freeourfeeds-a-30m-plan-to-take-bac... [2] https://atproto.com/guides/glossary#relay https://atproto.com/guides/glossary#relay
- tartuffe78 2y agoWell it probably won't promote people paying for blue checkmarks into my feed.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoI don't believe that will happen. It looks like the eternal September will never leave the current giants. As more and more of the world came online, we passed a threshold where a majority of users are passive and undiscerning. The current giants are the generation of platforms that benefitted from this.
- AznHisoka 2y agoWhat do you mean by eternal September?
- philk10 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoIt describes an event in which a flood of new users come online and affect the quality of a network. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
- raincole 2y agoSame thing but without Elon Musk. At this point (not) moving to Bluesky is just a vote of (no) confidence against Elon.
- YinglingHeavy 2y agoI wish I was driven by feelings as so many others seem to be; would make my life much simpler.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoNo, it's not just that. Twitter had already been going downhill when Musk took over. Even if the old ownership was still in charge, now would be a good time for early adopters to find the next generation of platforms.
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- a12k 2y agoI found the moderation and choosing your own feed with blocklists so far implies that even if you copied and pasted all the odious people from Twitter, I still would never see them, nor would any other thinking person, and they would die in darkness. Also, there are examples of the most odious people joining and BlueSky banning them sua sponte almost immediately. So, I am optimistic.
- cobertos 2y agoDo you have any examples of the odious people being banned? It was my understanding that with most social networks the moderation is usually very opaque/can only be gleaned from public comments. Examples would help to understand how BlueSky would systematically moderate differently than Twitter (or what the ban process is like). Interestingly, if blocks are public, I guess you can audit the state of the interconnectedness between people, (seemingly what https://clearsky.app/ https://clearsky.app/ does?) and therefore, what has happened to the people odious enough to receive these blocks but not odious enough to be banned.
- verdverm 2y agoFor all the whining about being blocked on Bluesky, no account has crossed the 100k blocking mark, far less than 1% of the user base
- cheeseface 2y agoThe ability to control your own experience via custom feeds makes Bluesky so delightful. The new X algo made it impossible to just follow the people I wanted to.
- gedpeck 2y agoWith proper, sensible moderation it won’t get the same posts. Twitter as it is now is what happens when you let certain types of filth be posted.
- adamanonymous 2y agoBluesky has better self moderation tools. You can mute entire lists of accounts that have certain keywords in their posts or usernames.
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- rsynnott 2y agoWell, for a start it won't have Musk trying to break it. Like, its worst near-term case is probably 2022 Twitter. It's unlikely they'll do pay-for-attention, say; musk!Twitter is the only social network I know of to have done that outside the dating/hookup site world. Also, though, it has significantly better self-serve moderation tools than Twitter ever did (they _kind_ of existed for pre-Musk Twitter as third-party stuff, though Musk's API changes broke most of them). For instance, I subscribe to a moderation list which auto-blocks transphobes, so I don't have to read their One Joke again and again (seriously, they've pretty much had the one thing for the last 20 years; you'd think they could at least come up with some new material). People who, er, enjoy the one joke are of course free to enjoy it by not subscribing to that mod list. I do expect it to get worse over time as more people join, tbh; the current user base is rather self-selecting. But I don't think it will get as bad as current-Twitter. If it does, er, onto the next thing, I suppose.
- JeremyNT 2y agoIt's worth mentioning that X's problems with toxicity are greatly enhanced by its current leadership, so even if everybody switched to bsky tomorrow it would be different. There are far better tools for users to manage their own experience on bsky than X allows. But, assume that bsky does turn to shit too... if nothing else the (successful?) migration from X shows that people are capable of moving - should bsky face its own calamity the friction to move again will be lower. There's reason to hope that it won't end in total disaster though. It should (at some point) be possible to federate with bsky in a meaningful way, and perhaps a migration can be even easier than this one (i.e. you can switch to another instance that is run differently).
- toomuchtodo 2y agoCampaign [https://freeourfeeds.com/ https://freeourfeeds.com/] aims to safeguard social media from billionaires using Bluesky's tech [AT Protocol] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42686651
- verdverm 2y agoIt will be better because Bluesky gives users control of the algo & moderation via the open ATProto(col). We get choice and competition without the switching cost (after you move over to ATProto)
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- bufferoverflow 2y agoIt won't. BlueSky is heavily censored.
- bradgessler 2y agoSo is X. When a MAGA civil war broke out on there around Christmas last year, accounts that opposed Elon were either disabled or lost their verified status. You also can’t share links without their feed algorithm limiting your reach. All social networks are censored in some form.
- bufferoverflow 2y agoNo, not "so is X". You can find only a few examples from months ago. While BS censorship is constant and vast. Your attempt at gaslighting is pathetic.
- Libcat99 2y agoIt appears to have better blocking mechanics, so I don't know. The same content might exist there, but you won't see things that you filtered.
- ks2048 2y agoI big question is whether "official" accounts will move to Bluesky - governments, businesses, organizations, etc. I see some, but not too many. Of course, maybe that's fine, some people prefer it that way. But, for me, it seems nice to have a common place where organizations put out announcements.
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoHonestly I thought most of that was strictly Facebook's domain. Maybe that's just the consequences of living in a smaller metro than most, the folks around here are slower on the uptake of new tech. But yeah, none of my local municipal orgs are on Twitter or ever have been in any capacity. They use Facebook for everything, that and local businesses are the only reason I still have a Facebook account.
- ColdTakes 2y agoPlease indulge in my conspiracy theory as to why Bluesky will likely end up in the same place as Twitter[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42623590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42623590
- leotravis10 2y agoEric Goldman echoed it here as well in this section: "The Implications of Trump’s Election for Section 230" in his 2024 internet year in review. [0] [0] https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2025/01/2024-internet-law-year-in-review.htm https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2025/01/2024-internet-... He says Section 230 is on the chopping and extinction block in 2025 and he would be shocked if it made it to 2026.
- jasonjmcghee 2y agoI'm not sure why but blue sky serves me a lot of very specific content I'm not interested in seeing and no matter how many dozens of pictures I choose (show less like this) on, it continues to show. I've basically stopped using it.
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- unsnap_biceps 2y agoI don't think the "show less like this" works on photos. It seems to work well on text posts.
- olivierduval 2y agoCurious :why Bluesky and not Mastodon? I would have thought that decentralization would be a better safeguard against Bluesky becoming Twitter after being successful... Honest question: I left Twitter so long ago (I guess that I never got it) and am not really using Mastodon... so I think that I'm not the right people
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- sundaeofshock 2y agoBluesky is much easier to use than Mastodon, particularly for non-technical folks. It’s also has an UI that looks a lot like Twitter from 2-3 years ago.
- archagon 2y agoI feel like “much” is an exaggeration. In my day to day use, the only annoyance I regularly run into is having to tap an extra link or two in order to follow someone on a different network.
- zft 2y agobluesky has ecosystem of tools build on protocol. for example Analytics tools, like https://www.graphtracks.com https://www.graphtracks.com
- hendi_ 2y agoNo.
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- Astronaut3315 2y agoI won’t be. The majority of accounts I follow have already migrated away or at least mirror their posts on other platforms. There’s nothing I need from X anymore.
- rsynnott 2y agoWhy? I took a last look before finally deleting my account a couple months ago (said account had been dormant since 2022). It's a wasteland; nothing like what it used to be.
- jasoncartwright 2y agoThat ship sailed a while ago
- blurbleblurble 2y agoHeck yeah I'm down, I already deleted my personal account a while ago. Professional one is next. When are we quitting telegram by the way?
- liuliu 2y agoAnyone made a X to Bluesky importer yet? It is pretty difficult to discover the users back on Bluesky, and I thought with the Bluesky hose, it should be possible to matching content v.s. user?
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- 98codes 2y agoThe Sky Follower Bridge browser extension[1] works really well to find everyone you were following on Twitter and find their Bluesky accounts. It finds matches, close matches, and maybes so you do need to review, but the tool doesn't autofollow, just makes it easy to follow. [1] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge/behhbpbpmailcnfbjagknjngnfdojpko https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/sky-follower-bridge...
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- Timshel 2y agoThe goal of the website/service it to facilitate this part.
- nickvec 2y agoSite is down.
- PKop 2y agoGo ahead and leave. I'm staying.
- ckozlowski 2y agoCan't quit Twitter/X if you never made an account to begin with. ;)
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoI had to quit both Reddit and Twitter after their respective API changes that disallowed the clients I was using. There are very good nonpartisan reasons to get off these platforms.
- xena 2y agoI moved over from Twitter to Bluesky with the big wave (I've been using it since mid-2023 however). It's everything I've wanted from the community to the engagement. What's more, I'm not punished for linking to my blog! Everything I could have asked for. My profile in case you want to follow: https://bsky.app/profile/xeiaso.net https://bsky.app/profile/xeiaso.net
- chimen 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoYou can't post like this here and I've banned the account. If it were just one comment, I'd post a warning instead, but your comment history is replete with ideological battle and personal attacks. Not cool. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- consumer451 2y agoThis website seems to have scaled a lot in recent times, given higher rankings on SERPs. I know that we should do things that don't scale, but I really don't understand how one person can pay this much attention. Kudos Dan.
- some_furry 2y agoI've gradually moved over to Mastodon for most of my posting. The pocket of Fedi I reside within (queer fedi) is quite nice. Last year, I seriously started using Bluesky. It's okay, but a little too much like "old Twitter" for my tastes. I still use it, but my most interesting posts go on Fedi. This is all to say, Bluesky has replaced Twitter for me, but I was already phasing it out.
- soneil 2y agoI found the same. It's impressive how much bluesky resembles twitter, but I'm not sure if that's a compliment. On Mastadon I find much smaller circles, but much more engaged. I think bluesky is winning at discovery. If I want to feel the pulse on a topic, bluesky is winning. If I'm not even aware there's a topic that I want to feel the pulse on, bluesky is winning. But I think mastadon has been successful at curating a very different 'vibe', and I appreciate it. So I catch up on mastadon first, and then doomscroll bluesky if I need to find work for idle hands.
- airstrike 2y agoJoke's on you, I quit it a decade ago. I'd love to read why, but the site is down...
- haunter 2y agoThe people/accounts I want to follow don't quit though
- janandonly 2y agoI deleted two quite big accounts that I ran. Now I’m still on Nostr so I haven’t kicked my social media addiction yet, but at least on Nostr I get to pick and choose which of any, algorithm is forging my timeline.
- kmeisthax 2y agoI already did this two years ago. Twitter had already gone down the shitter a decade ago when the far right moved in, and by 2022 I was only using it to keep tabs on the Asahi Linux project. Marcan moving to Mastodon was enough to get me to abandon my account.
- voytec 2y agoHugged, but here's a snapshot from Dec 26: https://web.archive.org/web/20241226192120/https://www.helloquitx.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20241226192120/https://www.hello...
- winocm 2y agoHonestly, I just quit using social media entirely for the most part. It’s been really mentally liberating.
- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y agoApart from HN, which other sites do you continue to participate in?
- winocm 2y agoMastodon, but infrequently.
- nlehuen 2y agoI left on 2022-12-18 after some of the muskian shenanigans and I haven't missed it since, quite the contrary in fact. Before that I had to put a time limit on using the app to fight off the dark patterns. Now I'm going to actually delete my account.
- nlehuen 2y agoHoly cow, I created my account in May of 2007. What a different world we live in now.
- ezekg 2y agoI don't understand the obsession with hating on X/Musk right now. He has his opinions, but X is still a great platform, and last I checked, Mastodon and Bluesky still feel like echo chambers (and the latter has a lot of... furry content). In the quiet, it feels like the media moved from hating Trump to hating Musk, and people are now obsessing over amplifying that message. But for what gain? It all kind of reminds me of Two Minutes Hate from 1984.
- ReptileMan 2y agoIt is exactly that.
- lbeltrame 2y agoI have no interest in EM. I joined an anime themed Mastodon instance and left two months later as all I could read was EM hatred. I wasn't interested in EM to begin with! FTR the old Twitter was as bad as the new X for those who strayed just a bit from whatever was the trend, in my experience.
- g-b-r 2y agoYeah it's a conspiracy of the media, not even supporting neonazis salvages him from the hate : ' (
- thrance 2y agoMusk turned twitter into a far right echo chamber. Make a new account and navigate to the "for you" page: all you see is Elon Musk, Alex Jones, Andrew Tate and other far right "role models". The media moved from hating Trump to Musk because the latter appears to hold more political power over the former, he already got his ways on H1B visas and a few other issues. Musk also appears quite pathetic/sociopathic to non-MAGAs. He has many children he barely sees and often insults online, he was caught lying about a video game recently, and that's not even bringing up the sexual assault allegations. He also switched from supporting Obama and considering himself a socialist to becoming the largest donor of the GOP in a few years. Also, please reread Big Brother, because that comparison is very misplaced.
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- throw0101c 2y agoIf you do do this, consider leaving your tweets/posts up: there's already quite a lot of link rot out there.
- jnichols35 2y agoI don't think leaving tweets up is much of a good idea since they will be fed into grok. Additionally, they made it clear in the TOS that they will sue users for breaking the TOS, so imo it's best to get out of there sooner than later.
- deadbabe 2y agoIf you’re going to quit one thing just to transition into some other thing you’re not really doing anything.
- jastanton 2y agoI tried signing back up a couple weeks ago and despite not following and then blocking Elon, and only following non and a-political topics, I was inundated with right wing propaganda. Every 4-5th post was from Elon or similar. It was too distracting to use normally so I deleted my account and moved on.
- darthcloud 2y agoI'm active in the retro game console modding community and we pretty much all jumped ship same time in early November. I still log to Twitter once a week to check, there haven't been anything new in my following feed for at least a month beside the people cross posting. So I can easily see myself do just that, I wouldn't miss anything anyway.
- blindriver 2y agoThe people fleeing X are leaving because they are being exposed to views that they disagree with and they can't stand to see it, except bluesky and mastadon are even more draconian and capricious than before Elon buying it. I'm staying because finally the views that I agree with are being exposed better, but still 50% of my feed is dominated by views that I disagree with but I can at least tolerate it now.
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- tempworkac 2y agowhy do people feel so strongly about this? presumably you're only engaging with those you follow, which is at your discretion. does it really matter what platform they're on?
- karaterobot 2y agoI quit Twitter in 2008, around the time I quit Facebook. Here's what I can say with confidence: Bluesky, Mastodon, whatever—they're all going to end up being bad, like Twitter. The problems ultimately come out of the format, not the specific instance of the format.
- r00fus 2y agoI disagree. Moderation is like culture. Twitter's moderation has gone to complete junk in the past couple of years. Bluesky and Mastodon don't have that problem (yet, or possibly ever). In your analogy - moderation is part of the format.
- karaterobot 2y agoOkay, let's check back in ten years.
- foogazi 2y ago!remindme 10 years
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- jacobgorm 2y agoFor me the relative tranquility of Mastodon is not a bug but a feature. I deleted my Twitter account shortly after Elon bought it, actually not so much because of him, but to get more time for being with my family and working on my startup.
- surume 2y agoNo, let’s not.
- daft_pink 2y agoThe problem is that you are creating an echo chamber. My experience using let’s quit “insert company name” is that these echo chambers tend to be toxic and terrible. IE.. Gab, Truth Social, etc. It’s very difficult to do unless you can have broad consensus. I tend to use Twitter for an industry wide group and while a few individuals have moved, the Bluesky version just doesn’t have the reach or usefulness of the twitter or x version.
- unpopularopp 2y ago>The problem is that you are creating an echo chamber Yeah but it's a left wing echo chamber and that's good! /s Incognito window > bsky > discovery feed > every post is about US politics, Trump bad, rich people bad, Musk bad etc. Same shit just different colors Bsky is not the answer, the only answer is not to use social media at all. And more or less that applies to HN too.
- EA-3167 2y agoI don't think there's anything about Bsky that makes it "left wing" or an echo chamber, it's just that the first people to jump ship from Twitter were by and large, on the left of the US political spectrum. If Bsky ends up with hundreds of millions of people on it then it won't be any sort of echo chamber. For now it's very much dominated by Twitter ex-pats, and that gives it a pretty predictable slant. Unlike Twitter however this isn't being imposed by the owner, it's organic.
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoYou aren't wrong, but I'd add that it's also just the never-ending grievance-politics of the reactionary right. Spaces that have them but don't amplify their voices enough are censoring conservatives. Spaces where people can moderate what they get who then opt out of it are censoring conservatives. Endless victim posturing about how silenced all these people are who paradoxically also never shut the fuck up. They love the notion of the marketplace of ideas until said marketplace tells them to kick rocks and then it's crocodile tears.
- theultdev 2y agoLet's not.
- BimJeam 2y agoI'll stay on X. May quit who wants. Me not.
- srid 2y agoThe silent majority.
- delichon 2y agoI couldn't stand plain vanilla X either and entirely sympathize. I did leave it, for several years. But now, my heavily curated X feed (I use Control Panel for Twitter) is the single highest signal to noise news source I've found in five decades as an obsessive infovore. I filter out everything but the direct opinions of specific contributors, creating the bespoke daily newspaper I dreamed of for so long. I'd really rather that this wasn't the product of a centralized platform and would happily leap to a decentralized platform with similar value. But I won't let perfect be the enemy of the best collection of smart people I like to listen to I've yet to find except maybe on HN. And HN would benefit from better curation options too.
- basfo 2y agoAt first, I really thought this was a bad idea. If you don't like reality, shutting yourself away in your own safe shell isn't helpful. The things you dislike will still be there, and by isolating yourself, you not only lose contact with them but also lose any chance to intervene. However, over the last few months, Twitter/X has clearly become a propaganda tool that promotes a particular worldview (I won't say "a political party" because Elon Musk's project seems broader than just U.S. politics). I feel like the protagonist of A Clockwork Orange: in one quick scroll, you'll see explosions, puppies, tits, Nazi supporters, and Elon Musk's tweets all mixed together. Now, i agree it's time to leave the platform. He is going way too far using a social network to push his own agenda, is too evident why he spent 60 billon on this.
- efitz 2y agoSite seems like it was hugged to death. My initial take on this is that it's probably just another one of a thousand "let's self-sort ourselves by political bias". BlueSky has a CP problem (enter "does BlueSky have a CP problem" into your favorite search engine). BlueSky also has a problem with moderation; the pile-ons are trying to eradicate opposing (read: non-leftist) points of view. Don't take my word for it; it's even been reported here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159454 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159454 Facebook is full of ads, but at least finally Meta (or at least Zuckerberg) decided to ditch the "fact checkers" which were just a thin veneer over "suppressing non-leftist points-of-view". X seems fun to me now but I am nervous that Yaccarino is starting to deviate from Musk's free speech vision in order to appease advertising cartels. Truth is a right wing echo chamber. Gab is an anti-semitic cesspool. Telegram is annoying as its subscription/follow model is spammy. No experience with Parler. So overall I'm happy with X. YMMV. Don't put yourself in an echo chamber.
- bsnnkv 2y agoOn the topic of migrations from one social media app to another, it has been very interesting to see the rapid migration from TikTok to Xiaohongshu ahead of the impending ban. I was very surprised to see that Xiaohongshu is already #1 on the US Apple app store's "Social Media" category. It seems that the appetite to use Instagram, Facebook, YouTube Shorts or Twitter after the ban comes into effect is very low.
- hit8run 2y agoWhy would one want to to quit X and move to the same kind of platform somewhere else?
- sergiotapia 2y agobluesky and other echochambers are not the solution to censorship. bluesky is the left to the x right. both serving different masters. The solution is true mesh network with financial incentive to "host" the content. Imagine kinda of like bittorrent seeding where the longer you seed the more you "mine crypto". I'm too dumb to build such a thing, but that is the solution. A true peer to peer network where all content is hosted and nothing can be brought down. you locally choose to "hide politics", "hide porn", "hide violence" and that's it. the web as it was intended, free information.
- thrance 2y agoYou probably wouldn't want to host CSAM or even more abject content. Also the performance would be terrible. The issue with unmoderated content is that it always devolves into a neonazis and other hateful/deranged groups echo chamber, and everyone else leaves because frankly who wants to engage with that? Look at 4chan for an example.
- sergiotapia 2y agoagreed of csam - but for the rest, ai on edge is so powerful now, users could filter or not filter whatever they want. there's no reason musk or dorsey should decide whats ok.
- fsckboy 2y ago>bluesky is the left to the x right you've given the left pov, but it's not accurate. twitter was neutral, then twitter "went left" by censoring the right. then musk bought twitter (renamed it X) and stopped censoring the right but did not censor the left; but a certain type of left person can't tolerate the right not being censored so they left first to the fediverse and now to bluesky X is open to all; bluesky is a population of people who are not open to all
- efitz 2y agoHahaha people here got so upset that there wasn't unity of support for quitting X, that they flagged the post.
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- brailsafe 2y agoDone... like 10 years ago, but I didn't switch to anything. I'd previously used it for connecting with people at conferences and keeping up with stuff in web dev, but I quit because it was simultaneously too addictive with the drip feed of tiny—and in retrospect usually worthless—posts, and I got tired with the accumulation of moral posturing. I didn't even have any spicy opinions at the time, but it was just so gross to continually be bombarded with top 5 reasons I'm not feeling bad enough about subjects that have nothing to do with me or those of the people I'm following; "don't forget all of us in the in-group agreed to add __ to our desc today"
- Timshel 2y agoOnce again flagged, it's becoming an issue :(. I see more and more post disappearing and since you can't vouch unless the post is completely dead it just gets buried.
- jmclnx 2y agoFunny, I was thinking this was a "go all in or Wayland" and stop using X. But I already did quit, remobed my X ID a few months ago.
- tbayly 2y agoSure, leave already. Dig a hole. Go into your cave. Watch shadows. Smoke weed. Stick your fingers in your ears. Close your eyes. Hate. Then hate some more. Be a solipsist high-fiving other solipsists. Honestly, how pathetic. The liberal is the man who doesn't want to talk or listen to anyone who disagrees with him. It's not hard to understand why half the country hates Musk and their fellow citizens on X, but listening is fundamental to maintenance of the polis. Anyhow, I'm on both X and BlueSky.
- throw0101c 2y agoMeta: when I hear people talking about "X" I (still?) think they are referring to X11. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y agomore accurately: The X Window System, version 11 and yes, I know it has its problems, but it is still a fine platform for many things and many people!
- Funes- 2y ago>Why am I leaving X? Under Elon Musk, X has become a machine for manipulating opinion. Let's refuse to be complicit. [...] let's take back control by leaving X collectively for alternatives that respect free speech. This is, excuse my French, either incredibly fucking stupid or extremely disingenuous. I'm not going to go over every case of censorship under previous management, but it was all astoundingly evident: there was an aberrant woke bias whereby they strongly silenced everything even just a tad unaligned with that reality-denying, pseudomoralistic, corporativist ideology that the powers that be has so brutally taken advantage of. If I quit X (I did), it wasn't because it turned into an echo chamber--on the contrary, it stopped being one, as it is now pretty balanced, according to data on it. It was rather because its fundamental design was already focused on compulsive, mindless consumption of junk, and now it's that, but increased manyfold, exactly the same as the abhorrent characteristics that make it more of a walled-garden. I cannot use it just on principle. To my mind, the web should be open and discovery of content should respect intentional and sovereign behavior, not promote addiction and lack of mental hygiene.
- xtz123 2y agoIt is consistently astonishing that the IT sector is predominantly inhabited by individuals of a leftist persuasion, despite the fact that disciplines such as programming ought to instil a strong foundation in mathematics, logic, and structured thinking, which are typically associated with right-leaning thinking.
- cyberge99 2y agoYou spelled authoritarian wrong.
- scoofy 2y agoI think the reason why Twitter is problematic isn't Musk, but is directly related to the structure of Twitter, thus Bluesky will eventually inherit exactly the same problems. The underlying issue is that the structure of these services is short form and uni-directional. It's the internet's megaphone. This is great celebrities and media outlets, because it acts more as a megaphone than as a discussion forum. However, it is also great for low-information, bumper-sticker politics. The limited text entry deliberately disincentivizes nuance, thus will not be conducive to good-faith disagreement, and instead forces participants into a team sports style of arguing. Perhaps there is a local minima where each political paradigm ends up on a different system, but social networks are natural monopolies, especially when they take the form of a megaphone. Thus, they should always try to reorganize themselves into a single provider, leading to the exact same conflict-prone environment that was created on Twitter. That Bluesky now feels peasant now is exactly that the user base is a self-selected group, as one of the platforms becomes dominant again, one can only assume the conflict-prone structure of the service will again assert itself. For now, I'll stay on Reddit. Admittedly imperfect, but it's a place where nuance can and does show up.
- nunez 2y agoBig celebrities/influencers and news media need to leave X for this to have an effect. Nothing will change as long as both of those user types remain on the platform.
- 2-3-7-43-1807 2y agoBut I like X :(
- hn1986 2y agoBluesky is the closest thing to Twitter nowadays. Was hoping for Threads to work out but it seems less organic than Bluesky.
- goldforever 2y ago[dead]
- zs234465234165 2y agoQuitting x to move to another x clone is a copout. Quit x and move to nothing(or real life)